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OT: Worsted or non worsted cloth

hondabbq
hondabbq Posts: 1,986
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I have my new pool table picked out ( Legacy, Ella) now I have to decide on cloth. I havent played much pool in the last few years, but I know I have only played on the standard cloth (napped). I am leaning to the worsted because I want to have a higher level of table for myself and my game but I know and understand it is tougher to play on. What is your preference and what do you have on your table?
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  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited May 2014
    That is a nice table.

    If I were to buy a table it would be a 7' Valley bar box, napped.  Literally cut my teeth on an 8 footer at my parent's house, 

    The choice of fabric will not increase your level of play.  Faster does not mean better.  Yea, napped isn't as durable, but you could have it redone in 20 years.

    Playing on the same exact table and materials that are found in every bar, league, tournament will..if it is your desire to compete.  If you played pro in Vegas, then worsted may be ideal.

    Billiards is a great game, more popular around here than average.  All of the pool halls in the area are napped. 
        


     
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,527
    Reminder to self.... Don't ever play Focker in pool.
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    Focker said:
    That is a nice table.

    If I were to buy a table it would be a 7' Valley bar box, napped.  Literally cut my teeth on an 8 footer at my parent's house, 

    The choice of fabric will not increase your level of play.  Faster does not mean better.  Yea, napped isn't as durable, but you could have it redone in 20 years.

    Playing on the same exact table and materials that are found in every bar, league, tournament will..if it is your desire to compete.  If you played pro in Vegas, then worsted may be ideal.

    Billiards is a great game, more popular around here than average.  All of the pool halls in the area are napped. 
        


     

    Brandon, you are probably the most well rounded dude I have ever known! Not sure I've ever seen a question that you haven't grabbed and thrown back supported with common sense, experience or logic. Way to go bud!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Worst is the pro choice, it plays better and allows the balls to slide before they roll, even with a well cleaned ball. The action and traction of a masse shot is more predictable with worsted than with napped. Dad always said it took less brushing, but I could never tell the difference, 
    If you can afford it, worsted.

    @Focker - are you speaking of English three ball pocket billiards? Don't see it much, great game. 

    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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  • hondabbq
    hondabbq Posts: 1,986
    Focker said:

    That is a nice table.


    If I were to buy a table it would be a 7' Valley bar box, napped.  Literally cut my teeth on an 8 footer at my parent's house, 

    The choice of fabric will not increase your level of play.  Faster does not mean better.  Yea, napped isn't as durable, but you could have it redone in 20 years.

    Playing on the same exact table and materials that are found in every bar, league, tournament will..if it is your desire to compete.  If you played pro in Vegas, then worsted may be ideal.

    Billiards is a great game, more popular around here than average.  All of the pool halls in the area are napped. 
        


     
    Your points are quite valid about getting a napped cloth. After reading quite a bit about both, a lot of sites conclude that worsted cloth requires you to be more accurate and play a more finesse game.
    I guess that is where I was thinking of going worsted to have to bring up the level of play.
    Lord knows I'm no pro but I can hold my own on a table. I don't want to make it too difficult for myself or friends and family so everyone gets frustrated.
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  • GATABITES
    GATABITES Posts: 1,260
    @hondabbq‌ - What's the price point for the table you are referencing? I had my basement finished and I have a spot for my table. I haven't done any research on the cost yet. Are you buying new or refurbished?
    XL BGE 
    Joe JR 
    Baltimore, MD
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  • hondabbq
    hondabbq Posts: 1,986
    edited May 2014
    @gatabites buying new. I did a lot of reading on what to look for and pros and cons of different styles. I liked the build quality and materials in relation to the price point on the Legacy brand. You can add about $500 to the price tag for being Canadian. If I go worsted cloth it will be around the 3k mark. It comes with 4 cues, granny stick, set of balls, chalk, triangle. I want to get Aramith balls, a cue rack, and my own stick.
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  • gerhardk
    gerhardk Posts: 942
    In my opinion what is under the cloth is more important.

    Gerhard
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    I like the Perfect Drawer option. It keeps everything under the table and if you cover the table when not in use, dust free. Are the pockets leather or composite? 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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  • hondabbq
    hondabbq Posts: 1,986
    I am on the fence with the perfect drawer.
    We are going with the leather pockets.
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Leather is a great choice - like a good glove, needs to be maintained. Dad used to clean and saddle soap his at least twice a year, they always played perfectly. Belgian Aramith balls, another good choice. 
    Is there any option on the rail rubber? National Billiards had four or five options when I bought a table over thirty year s ago. Ours was very lively. 
    You will enjoy it. I do miss ours. 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited May 2014
    hondabbq said:
    That is a nice table.

    If I were to buy a table it would be a 7' Valley bar box, napped.  Literally cut my teeth on an 8 footer at my parent's house, 

    The choice of fabric will not increase your level of play.  Faster does not mean better.  Yea, napped isn't as durable, but you could have it redone in 20 years.

    Playing on the same exact table and materials that are found in every bar, league, tournament will..if it is your desire to compete.  If you played pro in Vegas, then worsted may be ideal.

    Billiards is a great game, more popular around here than average.  All of the pool halls in the area are napped. 
        


     
    Your points are quite valid about getting a napped cloth. After reading quite a bit about both, a lot of sites conclude that worsted cloth requires you to be more accurate and play a more finesse game. I guess that is where I was thinking of going worsted to have to bring up the level of play. Lord knows I'm no pro but I can hold my own on a table. I don't want to make it too difficult for myself or friends and family so everyone gets frustrated.


    Thanks, and agree about making it fun for all.  Worsted is much faster.  There is a lot of difference in playing on an 8 foot table and 7 foot table alone.  8 requiring much more power, finesse, english, etc.

    Honestly, I would take the difference saved in cloth, and invest it in a superior cue.  Let your friends use the cues that come with it.

    I couldn't even drive, and bought my first Meucci with hustlin' and weekend 9-ball tournament money savings. lol

    Not recommending a specific cue, as they all play different.

    I still have it, and enjoy playing with it.  Someday soon in the near future, my son will be using it.  

    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    GEEEEZ , man! Will you just stop this? 

    I get the impression that the next time we meet up your 6 year old son will ask me more informed questions than I can ever hope to be able to ATTEMPT to even answer!

    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited May 2014

    LOL, you're too kind my friend.

    Growing up, the basement at our house was the neighborhood place to be.  We bet everything. lol

    Spent many hours at the second home pool hall.  Angles, offense, defense, leave, english, masse.  I was hooked from the start.   

    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

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  • hondabbq
    hondabbq Posts: 1,986
    Well took the plunge today and ordered it up. Legacy Billiards Ella-stained "Port" and a black worsted cloth.
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Enjoy!
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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  • GATABITES
    GATABITES Posts: 1,260
    @hondabbq - what size did you get? 7 or 8? 
    XL BGE 
    Joe JR 
    Baltimore, MD
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  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364

    Wow, very nice.

    Wonder how long it would take for you to make a critical decision?

    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

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  • GATABITES
    GATABITES Posts: 1,260
    I'm jealous. The table costs aren't as bad as I originally thought. How long before it's delivered and installed? This may be in my near future. I too want an 8ft. I like the black worsted.
    XL BGE 
    Joe JR 
    Baltimore, MD
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  • hondabbq
    hondabbq Posts: 1,986
    I was told expect 2-4 weeks for delivery up to Canuckistan. For what you get with Legacy the price point is quite reasonable. Made in the US and not China, full post legs. Hardwood, center beam. for you guys is even easier as with the worsted cloth its only $2500, up here its $3150. That also includes 4 cues, triangle, chalk, and a set of balls. I am going to get a credit for the balls that come and put it towards as set of Aramith balls.
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Ask your dealer about the weight of the balls, makes a huge difference. Bought a set of snooker balls for our old 5'X9' narrow pocket table and they played awful, found they were the incorrect weight. Traded them in and much better. 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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