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How to reduce smoke during lightning up

Hello all !

A proud large egg owner and first post. So by now I pretty mastered how to play with temperature and bbq/grilling in general. However there are two things that bothers me. The first thing is the smoky flavor that on longer cooks tend to preveal on the meat taste, but that's something I'm gonna address on another topic.

This time I would like to hear your opinion about lighting up with fire starters. So, I use the BGE original charcoal and light it up using fire started. With the bottom vent fully open and the lid open I fire up the starters. After very few minutes, when I feel they are burning well I close the lid (without the daisy vent). There is moderate smoke coming out and that's normal. Then after about 5~10 minutes heavy, real heavy white smoke is coming our for the next few minutes (5 ~ 10 approx). After that is stabilizes and the temperature starts rising. Here I put on the daisy well and start to stabilize the temperature.

The problem lies in the meantime when the heavy smoke starts coming out. The problem is that neighbors are starting to complain as I use the BGE very often. Do you guys know why this heavy smoke is coming out and if there is a way to prevent it ?

Thanks, Marko

Comments

  • johnkitchens
    johnkitchens Posts: 5,234
    Yes there is a way to prevent it. 

    I had the exact same scenario concerning the white smoke. I think I have more tolerant neighbors though. Mine just try to get a dinner invitation when they smell or see smoke!

    I was using BGE lump and and had the same white smoke. I switched to Rockwood lump this weekend, and I didn't have that thick white smoke. Almost no smoke at all in the initial start up. 

    It only smoked when I added my wood chips. 

    I think if you change lumps you will notice a difference. 

    Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's
  • BigWader
    BigWader Posts: 673

    When you light the egg are you mixing the old lump to sift the ash through the grate?  Do you clean out the ash regularly?  When you close the lid there needs to be good airflow to develop the chimney effect of the egg.  I've seen a video where a guy stuck a chimney flue piece on top of the egg to really create the draw and get it up to temp quicker.

    I generally leave firestarters with the lid open until the starter cube is pretty burned up and I put more lump on top of it to get it going.  When I close the lid there is already a good glowing set of coals.   The heat can jump up on the dial and then I let it stabilize for 10-15 minutes to clear VOC smoke from the lump.

    I also agree that BGE lump seems strong smokey tasting and recommend different brands (WGWW, Basques, Maple Leaf)

     

     

    Toronto, Canada

    Large BGE, Small BGE

     

  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Welcome.
    The heavy white smoke is the VOCs burning off, you get complaints because it does have an acrid smell, it is the bad stuff. Sounds to me like everything is working pretty much as you can expect. You could try another brand of lump, and do not have any smoke wood in the egg. See if that makes a difference. 
    Not knowing where you are, hard to suggest a lump, Wicked Good Weekend Warrior is a clean burner and in Canada, Maple Leaf is excellent. BGE is basically RO and it does have both start up smoke and adds a smoke flavour to the food, IMHO. 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    edited March 2014
    +1 for making sure your cube has completely burned out before shutting the lid.  Another possibility is if you had done a "greasy" cook last time and that is sitting inside your egg or directly on the lump.  Try using a drip pan to catch this or let your lump burning longer before shutting it down to allow the grease to burn off.
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

  • stevesails
    stevesails Posts: 990
    Wow. How close are your neighbors?
    Mine never come outside so that it's not an issue?
    XL   Walled Lake, MI

  • jhl192
    jhl192 Posts: 1,006
    I think you are doing the light up correctly.  The smell should not be that bad.  It mostly bothers me on a chicken or fish dish if I put the meat on too soon or if I haven't done  CLEAN BURN after a low and slow or two.  I also get the startup smoke smell on my shirt so I have learned to switch shirts before I sit down to eat.  Unless you live in an apartment complex with decks adjacent to other decks or you live in California, your neighbors are crazy.  
    XL BGE; Medium BGE; L BGE 
  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    markopa said:
    Hello all !

    A proud large egg owner and first post. So by now I pretty mastered how to play with temperature and bbq/grilling in general. However there are two things that bothers me. The first thing is the smoky flavor that on longer cooks tend to preveal on the meat taste, but that's something I'm gonna address on another topic.

    This time I would like to hear your opinion about lighting up with fire starters. So, I use the BGE original charcoal and light it up using fire started. With the bottom vent fully open and the lid open I fire up the starters. After very few minutes, when I feel they are burning well I close the lid (without the daisy vent). There is moderate smoke coming out and that's normal. Then after about 5~10 minutes heavy, real heavy white smoke is coming our for the next few minutes (5 ~ 10 approx). After that is stabilizes and the temperature starts rising. Here I put on the daisy well and start to stabilize the temperature.

    The problem lies in the meantime when the heavy smoke starts coming out. The problem is that neighbors are starting to complain as I use the BGE very often. Do you guys know why this heavy smoke is coming out and if there is a way to prevent it ?

    Thanks, Marko
    Easy, throw out your firestarters and get a map torch.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • johnkitchens
    johnkitchens Posts: 5,234
    I used to use the firestarters, but I have switched to rubbing alcohol. Cheap, easy, and fast. Just like my senior year prom date. 

    Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's
  • markopa
    markopa Posts: 23
    Wow. That's support :) Thanks.

    So, I live in EU, Slovenia. I live in a kind apartment complex with gardens. But, as said the smoke isn't bad while cooking.

    The problem seems to be when the fire starters are about gone and the lump isn't full turned on yet. There are about 5~10 minutes where the amount (not taste) of smoke is just excessive. Half of the neighborhood is in smoke. When the lump turns fully one the smoke reduces to minimum.

    I don't think there is a problem of ventilation which reduces the chimney effect. When the lump is turned on I can easily rise the temp which tells me my air vents are not filled up with dust/ash.

    Maybe I'm just closing the lid a bit to soon.
  • Justacookin
    Justacookin Posts: 291

    just burn  a old tire in the back yard and then going forward they will have nothing to complain about.

    XL & waiting for my Mini Max Bloomington MN.
  • Tjcoley
    Tjcoley Posts: 3,551
    +1 on not closing the dome until the fire starter is completely burned up. If still burning, when you close the dome the flame goes out and whatever is left of the starter just smokes.
    __________________________________________
    It's not a science, it's an art. And it's flawed.
    - Camp Hill, PA
  • markopa
    markopa Posts: 23

    just burn  a old tire in the back yard and then going forward they will have nothing to complain about.

    I'll try that after trying with a gas torch :) 
  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    I really think it is the starters...like others said don't close the lid until you are sure they are completely burned up and only the lump is left burning.  


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

  • GQuiz
    GQuiz Posts: 703

    I used to use the firestarters, but I have switched to rubbing alcohol. Cheap, easy, and fast. Just like my senior year prom date. 

    How do you incorporate the rubbing alcohol? Paper towel?

    XL BGE; Schertz TX by way of Stow OH. #egghead4life
  • The obvious thing to do is to make some ribs for your neighbors and thank them for tolerating your smoke and let them know you would be happy to help them grill sometime. You can't make an egg smokeless.
  • johnkitchens
    johnkitchens Posts: 5,234
    @GQuiz when I place my lump I remove some of it so that I have a hole in the center. I just pour some rubbing alcohol on the lump in the hole. 

    I then light it and place the lump I removed from the hole back on top of it kind of campfire style I guess.  

    It doesn't take long at all to get it to temp using this method. All I can buy locally is the 70% rubbing alcohol so I am probably using more than I would have to if I could get my hands on the 90%. 

    I have tried starter cubes and a wesson oil soaked paper towel. This way works better for me. It is the only way I plan on lighting my Egg now. 

    Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's
  • GQuiz
    GQuiz Posts: 703
    Sounds cool. I'll give it a try. Thanks

    XL BGE; Schertz TX by way of Stow OH. #egghead4life
  • Shiff
    Shiff Posts: 1,835
    I start my charcoal using 91% alcohol purchased at Walmart. I use a pencil to poke a tiny hole in the seal and then  squirt a little alcohol in 4 places in a circle about 4 inches in from the outside rim of the charcoal. Then a little squirt in the center.  Wait a few seconds then toss in a match.

    Alcohol burns clean and quickly starts the charcoal. It is very safe as long as you stand back a little when dropping in the match.  The warmer the day, the more  it evaporates before lighting and can cause a flash.  In the winter, it doesn't evaporate and I actually have to hold the match at the squirt points.
    Large BGE
    Barry, Lancaster, PA