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pavers vs concrete

bigphil
bigphil Posts: 1,390
edited October 2012 in Off Topic
starting to get estimates for a patio with a cook center and am wondering if anyone who has a patio with pavers or stamped concrete if they can give me the pros and cons on them . 
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,343
    Good timing on the question!  I'm in the process of tearing down my wooden (ie rotting) deck, want to install a pergola overhead (I've got Reisling grapevines that will eventually cover it as they are my wooden deck now) with either pavers or stamped concrete on the ground (with sprinklers that run daily, I'm just not going the wood route anymore).  
    Pavers won't be as smooth to wheel the Eggs around (I store mine indoors) but I understand stamped concrete needs to be resealed every other year.
    Looking forward to other inputs, thanks for the question Phil!  

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  • waltinva
    waltinva Posts: 36
    We had pavers done this summer. No issues rolling an xl around. It is probably smoother than the old decking.
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Pavers can be installed with a very smooth surface, I think much depends on the winter frost depth, that is LA is much different than maybe Denver. I'd stay away from stamped concrete, it does have a fair amount of annual maintenance. Exposed aggregate can give a really nice, textured surface that is not too slippery when wet and is smooth enough (depending on the finish) to roll an egg over. Might be worth considering as long as you don't have shovel any snow off it. 
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    Skiddy. Just did 1500 sq ft of stamped in the front of the house. My deck is raised stamped too. It is awesome and no maintenance other than sealing it once a year

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot Posts: 6,959
    Stamped concrete in my back patio.  Very pleased with it.
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    Just west of Austintatious


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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    bigphil said:
    starting to get estimates for a patio with a cook center and am wondering if anyone who has a patio with pavers or stamped concrete if they can give me the pros and cons on them . 
    If you can find a random pattern it will hide any cracks that occur if you are in an area where freezing is an issue. We have to cut ours

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
    Look into acid stain. looks great, custom colors and cheaper. Here in TN stamped runs around $12/sq ft. If you use pavers be sure they really compact the ground or you'll end up with a mess. Good luck...I'm jealous.
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  • bigphil
    bigphil Posts: 1,390
    just had a guy here he's $10.00 sq.ft for pavers using EP.Henery and $13.00 for stamped concrete . both a 6inch base underneath . i am in Pa. so we do get frost and freeze. have about six others coming for estimates . and going to look at some of the guys work that came tonight over the weekend 
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    bigphil said:
    just had a guy here he's $10.00 sq.ft for pavers using EP.Henery and $13.00 for stamped concrete . both a 6inch base underneath . i am in Pa. so we do get frost and freeze. have about six others coming for estimates . and going to look at some of the guys work that came tonight over the weekend 
    Mine was about eight bucks with 5 inches and heavy mesh.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • double
    double Posts: 1,214
    I did pavers very happy with it water drains away well. With well layed concrete that shouldn't be a problem anyway. I think at the end of the day both are great it just depends on the look you want. iMHO
    Lynnwood WA
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817

    Best pic I can find right now. This is the back deck

    DSC01400

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot Posts: 6,959
    edited October 2012
    I love the granite pathway
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    Just west of Austintatious


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  • bigphil
    bigphil Posts: 1,390
    edited October 2012
    @village that looks great one of the stamped patterns SWMBO picked was a slate/granite look 
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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
    Little Steven said:

    Best pic I can find right now. This is the back deck

    DSC01400

    I hate you.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,528
    Little Steven said:
    Skiddy. Just did 1500 sq ft of stamped in the front of the house. My deck is raised stamped too. It is awesome and no maintenance other than sealing it once a year
    Hope it lasts forever, looks very nice. The reason for my "dislike", virtually every stamped driveway (don't know about patios) in my neighbourhood has been replaced. Average life was 5 to 7 years, they were all renos of 25 to 30 year old aggregate or concrete. Most have gone the paver route, then again, we do not get penetrating frost in lotus land.
    I think if you have frost, concrete is the way to go, and if you have someone who knows how to stamp, great. (DOTs don't use salt much anymore, stamped does not like salt as I recall, making the sealing a must do virtually every year)
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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  • njl
    njl Posts: 1,123
    If you're in an area where settling is an issue, any sort of poured concrete is going to crack due to settling.  It's just a question of how soon, how bad, and where?  Our house is built on sand fill...so we went with pavers for the patio.  If they settle, it's not a huge deal to pull up a section, raise it, and re-set the pavers.  We wen't kind of large, and it's still a bumpy surface for the egg cart...but not too bad.
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    Skiddymarker said:
    Little Steven said:
    Skiddy. Just did 1500 sq ft of stamped in the front of the house. My deck is raised stamped too. It is awesome and no maintenance other than sealing it once a year
    Hope it lasts forever, looks very nice. The reason for my "dislike", virtually every stamped driveway (don't know about patios) in my neighbourhood has been replaced. Average life was 5 to 7 years, they were all renos of 25 to 30 year old aggregate or concrete. Most have gone the paver route, then again, we do not get penetrating frost in lotus land.
    I think if you have frost, concrete is the way to go, and if you have someone who knows how to stamp, great. (DOTs don't use salt much anymore, stamped does not like salt as I recall, making the sealing a must do virtually every year)
    I would never do a driveway in it. We are in a snowbelt and they use tons of salt. We won't park cars on the front and I actually have pex tube on the raised deck. Haven't connected it to the boiler yet but will this winter.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • jeroldharter
    jeroldharter Posts: 556
    Consider acid stained concrete. Easy to clean. Looks nice. Durable.
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  • jonessteave
    jonessteave Posts: 88
    edited December 2022
    Does any one know what's the going rate for laying down the pavers? I have about 10,000 sq feet of driveway and have been quoted $3:50-$4/sq ft for doing a complete job.
    #paver sealing las vegas
    Can some one give me a breakdown for the pavers? Is it the same as the house brick where they charge so many $$$ for laying down 1000 bricks?

    Thanks
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Define your project well on paper and send that out as an RFP to everyone who does that work and let them compete against each other.  You should get a discount on a per foot price since the job is so big.
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,899
    ^^^^ hahaha got him ^^^^ do you talk to your blender too brah?
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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