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How to get my temp right

Devon
Devon Posts: 12
edited August 2012 in EggHead Forum
So I cooked on my egg for the first time tonight. With that said, I want to smoke something this weekend. And I noticed that I could not figure out how to get my temp below 300??

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  • gerhardk
    gerhardk Posts: 942
    I think you probably just built too large a fire to start with.  If you want to cook low and slow start the fire in a couple of spots and then as the temperature approaches your desired temperature you have to close down the vents.  For 225 to 250º it doesn't take a lot of lit lump and only about a 1/4 inch opening at the bottom vent and very little opening in the daisy wheel.  Do a few cooks and you will master it.  One thing don't worry about cooking at 240º instead of 250º it will work out the same.  You see people trying to maintain an exact temperature, I don't understand that.  For low and slow you need to be in the ball park and then aim for your desired internal temperature.

    Gerhard
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 37,712
    edited August 2012

    Welcome to the cult.  The BGE is all about air-flow so here are a few things to consider-

    So, temperature control (aka fire volume) is a function of the amount of air flow through the bottom and out the top.  You can control by top or bottom vent or combinations of each (preferred for low temp cooks).  With any BGE (I have a LBGE) the trick is to catch the temperature rise on the way up to the desired end-point.  You have a lot of ceramic mass and if it gets heated above the target temperature it takes a while to cool down.So, with that-get a good mass of lump burning (for low&slow I go with about a softball or grapefruit sized mass) and then shut the dome and set your vents for the approximate final desired temp.  Minor adjustments as you go.  And remember, the feedback indicator to any adjustments is your dome thermo-and that will take a while.  So, patience is the name of the game at the low & slow temps. 

    here's a link that should give you some visual points of reference:

    Grandpa'sGrub Temp Control 

    And a great general info site here-<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

    Best basic info site going- http://www.nakedwhiz.com/ceramic.htm 

     

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • Tjcoley
    Tjcoley Posts: 3,551
    First, make sure your thermometer is calibrated. Not unusual to be off significantly. Boil some water, place the tip of the probe in and if needed adjust the nut on the back to 212F (100C)
    __________________________________________
    It's not a science, it's an art. And it's flawed.
    - Camp Hill, PA
  • Tjcoley
    Tjcoley Posts: 3,551
    Also, not sure what part of the the country you are in, but with most around 100 degrees, with an Egg sitting in the sun, you may be starting at 120 or higher. Doesn't take much fire to get to 250.
    __________________________________________
    It's not a science, it's an art. And it's flawed.
    - Camp Hill, PA
  • Devon
    Devon Posts: 12
    So will I fill it with my lump and wood chunks to the fire ring, but only get a small amount lit? Or put less stuff?
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 37,712
    Within reason you can never load too much lump. For long duration (20 hours +/-) low&slows I go up into the fire ring but the key is air-flow which as mentioned above controls the volume of fire.  Regardless of how much you initially light, once you get to steady-state (dome shut and vents set for the desired temp) the fire volume is set. 
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • While airflow is obviously the most important here, I think another question to consider is what are you using to start your lump on fire & how many places are you doing so?  I've found that lighting my lump with a single BGE starter cube allows me to get my temp all the way up to 500 so lighting in any more than 1 spot is certainly asking for temps above 300 F.
  • Devon
    Devon Posts: 12
    Thank you that helps a lot because I certainly had way more fire then I needed. So will the fire eventually spread to more lump throughout the cook, so the fire will not go out
  • Phoenix824
    Phoenix824 Posts: 243
    Your fire will actually move around the lump.    for a low and slow I usually start my fire in one section near the center.   later in the cook the fire moves around.   on my last rib cook I started in the center and at the end my entire fire was near the front right by the fire ring
    Steve Van Wert, Ohio XL BGE
  • Devon
    Devon Posts: 12
    Awesome thanks to all of you I think I will be in good shape saturday Im going to smoke a butt I will post how it turns out
  • YEMTrey
    YEMTrey Posts: 6,839
    In the short time I've been using my XL Egg, I've noticed that my fire burns more down than it does outward.  Once cooks are over and I'm cleaning out the firebox, I still have some good chunks of unburnt lump around the perimeter, but charred ash in the center.
    Steve 
    XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio

  • bigguy136
    bigguy136 Posts: 1,377
    Keep a wiggle rod handy or a metal coat hanger. If your temp starts to drop, you might have ash blocking the airflow. Come in thru the draft door with a metal rod with a 90°bend in it. A little wiggle going up into your fire and your temp will be right back where you want it.

    Big Lake, Minnesota

    2X Large BGE, 1 Mini Max, Stokers, Adjustable Rig

  • YEMTrey
    YEMTrey Posts: 6,839
    Dear Lonely in Green Bay,
    Here is what I suggest to put the spark back in your relationship!

    Come in thru the draft door with a metal rod with a 90°bend in it. A little wiggle going up into your fire and your temp will be right back where you want it.

    Steve 
    XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio

  • I'm a relatively new egger, have done one overnight pork butt before, and tonight is time for the second (I'm in London and it's for an Olympics party  :D)

    What I do is load up the egg with lump (minus the amount you can fit in a weber chimney starter), load up the chimney and light the chimney lump with a heat gun. Sit it on top of the lump in the egg while it catches. The top of the cold lump will catch as the chimney goes up, which is fine; key point is you won't be heating the ceramic, but you will be heating the coals. When the chimney is going well, tip it out, spread it out, and let it settle for a couple of minutes. Then shut the vents down. 

    This way, you'll start the fire for a long cook with the ceramic cool, and you can shut down the vents and stop it getting overheated and having to bring it back down (which can take ages!).

    I don't claim this to be THE way - it just works for me. Hope it helps.