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high + fast instead of low & slow

EggSimon
EggSimon Posts: 422
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Hello to all,

I was only a low & slow guy so far.

But the more I read about the hig temp + fast cooks (brisket / butt) the more I´m fascinated about this methode. I red several posts of successful cooks.

But I´m wondering If I should cook it indirect @ 325 F with the plate setter / spider + stone... or should I cook at the same temp but high grid & direct ? Such as a Spatchcook Chicken ? Th posts I´ve seen was not very clear about this fact.

What da ya recommand ?

Thanks

Simon

Comments

  • Bacchus
    Bacchus Posts: 6,019
    Same setup as lo/slo.
  • Spring Chicken
    Spring Chicken Posts: 10,255
    I did one of Old Dave's fast cook briskets and I have to say, it wasn't hard to do and tasted pretty good.

    Here's the link to his site:

    http://olddavespo-farm.blogspot.com/search/label/Brisket

    I think I still favor the long cook but at least I know I can do one much faster in a pinch.

    Let us know how it turns out.

    Spring "Wanna See The Fastest Cook In Texas, Wanna See It Again" Chicken
    Spring Texas USA
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
     
    There are a lot of variables in your post.

    For the most part I have found if I cook to food done temperature the food comes our moist, good texture and great tasting.

    I like cooking higher up in the dome. Here is a chicken low and slow direct with extreme raised grid.

    I wanted the flavor of the juices hitting the lump and coming back up into the meat.
    chicken1.jpg

    Cooked to 165°
    chicken3.jpg

    Here is whole chicken cooked raised grid direct at 500°
    chick500.jpg

    The breast was just as moist.

    Any more with chicken I will either cook at 250° until the breast is about 190°-200° for a deep smoke or I will cook direct at anywhere from 350° - 400° raised direct

    This bird was cooked direct raised at 400° to 165°
    internal
    chick400.jpg

    Boston Butt fast cook raised grid direct 8# done in 6.5 hours. 370° grid 400° dome.
    egghfham4.jpg

    egghfham3.jpg

    egghfham2.jpg

    At just under 4 hours the bark was developing very fast so I decided to foil.

    I pulled the butt at 197° and cooking at this heat the rest had a higher residual climb than I expected. I would probably pull at 185° - 190° for a better finished temperature.

    One would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the slow and fast cooked method.

    GG
  • EggSimon
    EggSimon Posts: 422
    fantastic answer and explanation.

    Thanks a lot GG !
  • vidalia1
    vidalia1 Posts: 7,092
    I agree totally GG...fast cooks work just as well as slow and are easier...IMHO
  • Car Wash Mike
    Car Wash Mike Posts: 11,244
    I am sold on the idea.

    Mike
  • cookingdude555
    cookingdude555 Posts: 3,196
    Put another vote in here for the high heat method. I have been unable to pick a difference in the taste. It's just done faster with less hassle. I would say you still need to do it indirect because the egg doesn't give you a ton of room between the coals and the food like a UDS does.
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
     
    Best I could do was 16.5" from lump to cook level.

    chicken1.jpg

    I could get a butt or a flat on there but not a packer. Putting more lump for a longer or hotter burn would lessen the distance.

    GG