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plate setter lifter

zaphod
zaphod Posts: 346
edited October 25 in EggHead Forum
if I am following an indirect cook with a gasket level direct cook, I use the platesetter basket to lift the grill for the gasket level direct cooks and put the plate setter in naked with legs up for the indirect first cooks.  I found that removing a 450F plate setter requires welding gloves (got 'em), a place to put the plate setter (got it) and speed (not so much - ouch).

I'm looking at lifters like this https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06W52YKL3 but they seem designed to work with the plate setter legs down while I prefer legs up to get a couple of levels going at the same time.



typical complaints are that with legs up it is too hard to get under the plate setter with the lifter.  I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.

Suggestions for a lifter that remove a plate setter with legs up plate? I could get a second plate setter basket or a woo, but i'm looking for a smaller solution I can tuck into my green egg tool basket.

~~
Walk softly, leave a good impression.
large BGE, vegegrilltarian

Comments

  • OhioEgger
    OhioEgger Posts: 947
    Get a pair of welder's gloves. That's what I've used ever since I got my Egg.
    Cincinnati, Ohio. Large BGE since 2011. Still learning.
  • zaphod
    zaphod Posts: 346
    OhioEgger said:
    Get a pair of welder's gloves. That's what I've used ever since I got my Egg.
    already got 'em. ANSI level 3.  
    ~~
    Walk softly, leave a good impression.
    large BGE, vegegrilltarian
  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 18,943
    What about a large C clamp?

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,284
    edited October 26
    I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow*.
    For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment stress; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
    I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for me for over ten years now.  
     
    EDIT:  I did a quick googlez search and found a pic of what I have:
     

     
    ... but its only available from eBay sellers, not sure if its made by the OEM anymore (whoever that was).  If you have a heavy-duty vise and access to a spot-welder, you could easily make one yourself (I'm wary of eBay sellers myself).  
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • zaphod
    zaphod Posts: 346
    keener75 said:
    I could get a second plate setter basket or a woo, but i'm looking for a smaller solution I can tuck into my green egg tool basket.

    Shout out to St. Mary's love that neck of the province. Used to cycle around Ilderton and area when I lived in London and wore a younger man's bike shorts.
    ~~
    Walk softly, leave a good impression.
    large BGE, vegegrilltarian
  • zaphod
    zaphod Posts: 346
    Botch said:
    I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow.
    For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
    I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for over ten years now.  
    sort of like this from smokeware? It is fairly cheap ($24CDN) but again, seems bulky for storage.


    ~~
    Walk softly, leave a good impression.
    large BGE, vegegrilltarian
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 16,284
    zaphod said:
    I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.
    Heh, reading for comprehension isn't a strong suite, izzit?  (you already had welding gloves...)   ;)  
    ___________

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."

    - Lin Yutang


  • zaphod
    zaphod Posts: 346
    Botch said:
    zaphod said:
    I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.
    Heh, reading for comprehension isn't a strong suite, izzit?  (you already had welding gloves...)   ;)  
    yeah well.... we all read too fast these days. 

    Thanks for the pic. I'll take a look to see if I can find one.  I'm also tempted to whip up a mock-up of the one with bad reviews and see if it is as impossible to use as they say. If not impossible to use, I'll order the real thing.
    ~~
    Walk softly, leave a good impression.
    large BGE, vegegrilltarian
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,064
    Botch said:
    I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow*.
    For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment stress; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
    I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for me for over ten years now.  
     
    EDIT:  I did a quick googlez search and found a pic of what I have:
     

     
    ... but its only available from eBay sellers, not sure if its made by the OEM anymore (whoever that was).  If you have a heavy-duty vise and access to a spot-welder, you could easily make one yourself (I'm wary of eBay sellers myself).  
    Hey Botch, here's a flashback to the old forum, but remember the talented "Thirdeye" not only was a great cook and contributor he also made and sold a very similar tool - in fact this one may have been one of his further enhancements. 
  • I simply slide my platesetter into my eggExpander legs up.  It is fairly easy to lift out hot using the handles on the expander.  Still need to wear gloves for the hot handles.
  • zaphod
    zaphod Posts: 346
    I simply slide my platesetter into my eggExpander legs up.  It is fairly easy to lift out hot using the handles on the expander.  Still need to wear gloves for the hot handles.
    I'm guessing you mean the convEGGtor basket portion of the eggExpander, and you are right that is the easiest way to move the platesetter. If I'm cooking low I'll do that to take away the plate setter for a second course of direct, but I'm doing more gasket level direct these days and I use the [empty] convEGGtor basket to lift the grill up to gasket level.
    ~~
    Walk softly, leave a good impression.
    large BGE, vegegrilltarian
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109

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    I love lamp..
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Bend a length of bar stock
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    I love lamp..
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 34,073

    Well Da-n!  Look who surfaced.  Hope this indicates "back to your regularly scheduled forum interactions" as this place needs some juice.
    Tossing back to the platesetter lift deal-welder/firefighter gloves allow you to just pick the thing up without any other gear.  No placement or balancing required.  Just make sure you have a preplanned landing zone.  

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.