plate setter lifter

zaphod

if I am following an indirect cook with a gasket level direct cook, I use the platesetter basket to lift the grill for the gasket level direct cooks and put the plate setter in naked with legs up for the indirect first cooks.  I found that removing a 450F plate setter requires welding gloves (got 'em), a place to put the plate setter (got it) and speed (not so much - ouch).

I'm looking at lifters like this https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06W52YKL3 but they seem designed to work with the plate setter legs down while I prefer legs up to get a couple of levels going at the same time.



typical complaints are that with legs up it is too hard to get under the plate setter with the lifter.  I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.

Suggestions for a lifter that remove a plate setter with legs up plate? I could get a second plate setter basket or a woo, but i'm looking for a smaller solution I can tuck into my green egg tool basket.

OhioEgger

Get a pair of welder's gloves. That's what I've used ever since I got my Egg.

zaphod

OhioEgger said:

Get a pair of welder's gloves. That's what I've used ever since I got my Egg.

already got 'em. ANSI level 3.  

caliking

What about a large C clamp?

keener75

maybe consider the PSWOO2...https://ceramicgrillstore.com/products/large-egg-conveggtor-expander-basket-cgs-pswoo?srsltid=AfmBOoq8O3DHNCZsbXyghakyAjdk-m0cbtH5ZaHVYGi_zA4FElFaoFBk

I love it!

Botch

I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow*.
For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment stress; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for me for over ten years now.  
 
EDIT:  I did a quick googlez search and found a pic of what I have:
 

 
... but its only available from eBay sellers, not sure if its made by the OEM anymore (whoever that was).  If you have a heavy-duty vise and access to a spot-welder, you could easily make one yourself (I'm wary of eBay sellers myself).  

zaphod

keener75 said:

maybe consider the PSWOO2...https://ceramicgrillstore.com/products/large-egg-conveggtor-expander-basket-cgs-pswoo?srsltid=AfmBOoq8O3DHNCZsbXyghakyAjdk-m0cbtH5ZaHVYGi_zA4FElFaoFBk

I love it!

I could get a second plate setter basket or a woo, but i'm looking for a smaller solution I can tuck into my green egg tool basket.

Shout out to St. Mary's love that neck of the province. Used to cycle around Ilderton and area when I lived in London and wore a younger man's bike shorts.

zaphod

Botch said:

I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow.
For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for over ten years now.  

sort of like this from smokeware? It is fairly cheap ($24CDN) but again, seems bulky for storage.

Botch

zaphod said:

I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.

Heh, reading for comprehension isn't a strong suite, izzit?  (you already had welding gloves...)    

zaphod

Botch said:

zaphod said:

I recently wrote a corrective review of a rechargeable BBQ light because a lot of reviewers claimed there was not charge port (sigh), so I have my doubts about the quality of reviews that say something just does not work.

Heh, reading for comprehension isn't a strong suite, izzit?  (you already had welding gloves...)    

yeah well.... we all read too fast these days. 

Thanks for the pic. I'll take a look to see if I can find one.  I'm also tempted to whip up a mock-up of the one with bad reviews and see if it is as impossible to use as they say. If not impossible to use, I'll order the real thing.

RRP

Botch said:

I have two heavy-wire lifters (for my Large and my Small) that work simply and with legs-up or -down (and they can hang from the side shelves); sadly I don't remember where I bought them/brand name.  I'll take a photo tomorrow*.
For one season I used a deep-throat C-clamp, $5.99 at Harbor Freight.  I started thinking about it: you had to try to center the clamping faces close to the center of the ceramic plate, and tighten it down firmly, to lift the platesetter out safely; the PS was maybe 500º or more (this was during my pizza madness) while the C-clamp was room-temperature metal (an excellent heat conducter) so now the platesetter has a heat sink near its center (you could never get it perfectly centered) plus a bending moment stress; ceramics are highly resistant to compressive loads, poorly resistant to tension loads, and I'm not sure about bending loads (but there's a lot of PSs out their with broken legs, so....)  
I decided to spend the money and get the wire thingies, they've worked perfectly for me for over ten years now.  
 
EDIT:  I did a quick googlez search and found a pic of what I have:
 

 
... but its only available from eBay sellers, not sure if its made by the OEM anymore (whoever that was).  If you have a heavy-duty vise and access to a spot-welder, you could easily make one yourself (I'm wary of eBay sellers myself).  

Hey Botch, here's a flashback to the old forum, but remember the talented "Thirdeye" not only was a great cook and contributor he also made and sold a very similar tool - in fact this one may have been one of his further enhancements. 

WoodworkerBED

I simply slide my platesetter into my eggExpander legs up.  It is fairly easy to lift out hot using the handles on the expander.  Still need to wear gloves for the hot handles.

zaphod

WoodworkerBED said:

I simply slide my platesetter into my eggExpander legs up.  It is fairly easy to lift out hot using the handles on the expander.  Still need to wear gloves for the hot handles.

I'm guessing you mean the convEGGtor basket portion of the eggExpander, and you are right that is the easiest way to move the platesetter. If I'm cooking low I'll do that to take away the plate setter for a second course of direct, but I'm doing more gasket level direct these days and I use the [empty] convEGGtor basket to lift the grill up to gasket level.

nolaegghead

nolaegghead

Bend a length of bar stock

lousubcap

nolaegghead said:

Well Da-n!  Look who surfaced.  Hope this indicates "back to your regularly scheduled forum interactions" as this place needs some juice.
Tossing back to the platesetter lift deal-welder/firefighter gloves allow you to just pick the thing up without any other gear.  No placement or balancing required.  Just make sure you have a preplanned landing zone.