Flat top griddles

caliking

Legume said:

WildmanWilson said:

I have joined a couple of Facebook groups and still researching the brand to get. Yeah, I'm one of those that over researches everything...but all the comments have been helpful. Thanks.

Same.  I always think it's good to do your own research.

 I don't understand the dislike for this comment...

caliking

Devastated…

Langner91

It is probably because half the guys on this forum are apparently using their phones to read this stuff.  Trying to scroll with a fist-full of sausage-like fingers is probably tough.  No telling what buttons they are accidentally pushing.

Legume

@caliking one variable you can't control is the quality of the research someone does on their own (cough, cough, ivermectin).  I could see if someone has done their own research in the past and it didn't go well, they might disagree with what I said.  In that case, just buying whatever is most expensive is the best route, because that's almost always the best or close to it.

caliking

Legume said:

@caliking one variable you can't control is the quality of the research someone does on their own (cough, cough, ivermectin).  I could see if someone has done their own research in the past and it didn't go well, they might disagree with what I said.  In that case, just buying whatever is most expensive is the best route, because that's almost always the best or close to it.

My understanding is that ivermectin is relatively cheap, but, "my own research" can be very expensive. Figuratively. 

NB: your post quoted for the quadfecta

dbCooper

Monthly, we give "Heartgard" to the Beagles to prevent heart worms.  68 mcg of Ivermectin per dose at about $10 each.  Curious how that compares to human dosage pricing?

Tspud1

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Have had 3 different griddles, 2 blackstones and 1 Le Griddle.  I love them.  If I had to choose a grill or a griddle, the griddle would probably win.

I recommend changing out the regulator for a higher BTU unit like the Bayou Classic 10psi unit.  This woke my griddles up!  Windy days are no problem.  Snow and ice, no problem.  Rain and hurricane, no problem.  Only issue is prodigious amounts of propane I use.

https://a.co/d/1bITizU

Did you have to change the air mixer setti ng on venturi?

caliking

dbCooper said:

Monthly, we give "Heartgard" to the Beagles to prevent heart worms.  68 mcg of Ivermectin per dose at about $10 each.  Curious how that compares to human dosage pricing?

Ivermectin has not been credible  evidence-based treatment for any human condition for quite some time.

Just sayin'...

Edit: not directed at you @dbcooper. Ivermectin continues to have animal/veterinary applications. 

dbCooper

I get all that, but it does get prescribed to humans and was curious on the pricing.

During Covid times the NE governor (now US senator) mandated, by executive order, Ivermectin prescriptions could be written for those requesting them.  Some amount that were requested were written.  Good friend of mine has a daughter that is a ER nurse, she worked on a patient with kidney failure because... Ivermectin.  She told the patient he was an idiot and so was his doctor.  No HR actions resulted for that. 

Botch

dbCooper said:

I get all that, but it does get prescribed to humans and was curious on the pricing.

During Covid times the NE governor (now US senator) mandated, by executive order, Ivermectin prescriptions could be written for those requesting them.  Some amount that were requested were written.  Good friend of mine has a daughter that is a ER nurse, she worked on a patient with kidney failure because... Ivermectin.  She told the patient he was an idiot and so was his doctor.  No HR actions resulted for that. 

I had no idea.    

caliking

caliking said:

dbCooper said:

Monthly, we give "Heartgard" to the Beagles to prevent heart worms.  68 mcg of Ivermectin per dose at about $10 each.  Curious how that compares to human dosage pricing?

Ivermectin has not been credible  evidence-based treatment for any human condition for quite some time.

Just sayin'...

Edit: not directed at you @dbcooper. Ivermectin continues to have animal/veterinary applications. 

With all due respect (sincerely), I refer back to this post. 

dbCooper

caliking said:

caliking said:

dbCooper said:

Monthly, we give "Heartgard" to the Beagles to prevent heart worms.  68 mcg of Ivermectin per dose at about $10 each.  Curious how that compares to human dosage pricing?

Ivermectin has not been credible  evidence-based treatment for any human condition for quite some time.

Just sayin'...

Edit: not directed at you @dbcooper. Ivermectin continues to have animal/veterinary applications. 

With all due respect (sincerely), I refer back to this post. 

@caliking - I agree with what you are saying.  However, in the state where I live scientific evidence can take a back seat to a agenda.  And it cost that person in the ER their life.

caliking

dbCooper said:

caliking said:

caliking said:

dbCooper said:

Monthly, we give "Heartgard" to the Beagles to prevent heart worms.  68 mcg of Ivermectin per dose at about $10 each.  Curious how that compares to human dosage pricing?

Ivermectin has not been credible  evidence-based treatment for any human condition for quite some time.

Just sayin'...

Edit: not directed at you @dbcooper. Ivermectin continues to have animal/veterinary applications. 

With all due respect (sincerely), I refer back to this post. 

@caliking - I agree with what you are saying.  However, in the state where I live scientific evidence can take a back seat to a agenda.  And it cost that person in the ER their life.

Sadly, yes. Not just in your state, either. 

HeavyG

Out of curiosity I googled...

 Ivermectin for human use is available only as an oral formulation. Parenteral administration, as a subcutaneous injection, is possible in veterinary medicine only.

3mg tablets qty. 10 costs in the neighborhood of $20.

caliking

For treatment of … ?

dbCooper

HeavyG said:

Out of curiosity I googled...

 Ivermectin for human use is available only as an oral formulation. Parenteral administration, as a subcutaneous injection, is possible in veterinary medicine only.

3mg tablets qty. 10 costs in the neighborhood of $20.

Thanks, this is what I was looking for... human 'script is 66cents/mg and we're paying around $140./mg for the hounds.  ouch!

*Heartgard at $10/68 mcg

HeavyG

caliking said:

For treatment of … ?

Beats me.

As I said, I was just curious what the price difference might be between the vet/animal juice and human tablets were and that's what GoodRx told me. It was also available as a cream or lotion. However, a tube of 1% ivermectin was in the $200 neighborhood.

Edit: GoodRx also says this: Used for Rosacea and Parasitic Infection

WildmanWilson

pgprescott said:

Most professional griddle folks claim people get the surface way too hot. Many items especially breakfast stuff is best at 375 and lower. They rarely get the surface above 500 and do the vast majority of cooking under 400. 

I’m no griddle guru that’s for sure but I’ve done a little research. That’s what I’ve found from looking around. Knock on BS griddles is that even on low they get way too hot. Some of the newer brand options do better at lower temps and even surface temps. 

2 cents prolly not worth a penny though. 😁

I read that as well. It got me to wondering about the cheaper model BS from Walmart. It says its 60K BTUs but its actually 38K BTUs and has the Omni top or something like that. The folks that have it seems to think its plenty hot and is easier on gas as well. For a 300 dollar purchase it may not be a bad jump to try out.

Ozzie_Isaac

Tspud1 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Have had 3 different griddles, 2 blackstones and 1 Le Griddle.  I love them.  If I had to choose a grill or a griddle, the griddle would probably win.

I recommend changing out the regulator for a higher BTU unit like the Bayou Classic 10psi unit.  This woke my griddles up!  Windy days are no problem.  Snow and ice, no problem.  Rain and hurricane, no problem.  Only issue is prodigious amounts of propane I use.

https://a.co/d/1bITizU

Did you have to change the air mixer setti ng on venturi?

Nope, just allows me to flow a lot more gas. Never ran into an issue with flame front or anything else.  I would preheat everything at medium before cranking it though.  The added BTUs were significant and I was concerned about warping if I go zero to full bore.

Ozzie_Isaac

dbCooper said:

HeavyG said:

Out of curiosity I googled...

 Ivermectin for human use is available only as an oral formulation. Parenteral administration, as a subcutaneous injection, is possible in veterinary medicine only.

3mg tablets qty. 10 costs in the neighborhood of $20.

Thanks, this is what I was looking for... human 'script is 66cents/mg and we're paying around $140./mg for the hounds.  ouch!

*Heartgard at $10/68 mcg

I give my dogs the same stuff as my horses.  $15 for enough ivermectin for a 1000lb horse.  I can get probably 10+ dog doses from one tube.  Approximately 1" strip on my finger tip.

(I actually prefer pancur which has fenbendazole as the active ingredient.  Seems like a safer dewormer)

pgprescott

WildmanWilson said:

pgprescott said:

Most professional griddle folks claim people get the surface way too hot. Many items especially breakfast stuff is best at 375 and lower. They rarely get the surface above 500 and do the vast majority of cooking under 400. 

I’m no griddle guru that’s for sure but I’ve done a little research. That’s what I’ve found from looking around. Knock on BS griddles is that even on low they get way too hot. Some of the newer brand options do better at lower temps and even surface temps. 

2 cents prolly not worth a penny though. 😁

I read that as well. It got me to wondering about the cheaper model BS from Walmart. It says its 60K BTUs but it’s actually 38K BTUs and has the Omni top or something like that. The folks that have it seems to think it’s plenty hot and is easier on gas as well. For a 300 dollar purchase it may not be a bad jump to try out.

All the Blackstone griddles get too hot according to what I’ve heard that’s the knock by the experienced type of griddle cook. I’d definitely pony up a little more for the small Weber if you are going entry point. 450 buys a Weber and all that goes with that brand. 
I was kinda shocked they offered their entry griddle at such a competitive price. 

Ozzie_Isaac

pgprescott said:

WildmanWilson said:

pgprescott said:

Most professional griddle folks claim people get the surface way too hot. Many items especially breakfast stuff is best at 375 and lower. They rarely get the surface above 500 and do the vast majority of cooking under 400. 

I’m no griddle guru that’s for sure but I’ve done a little research. That’s what I’ve found from looking around. Knock on BS griddles is that even on low they get way too hot. Some of the newer brand options do better at lower temps and even surface temps. 

2 cents prolly not worth a penny though. 😁

I read that as well. It got me to wondering about the cheaper model BS from Walmart. It says its 60K BTUs but it’s actually 38K BTUs and has the Omni top or something like that. The folks that have it seems to think it’s plenty hot and is easier on gas as well. For a 300 dollar purchase it may not be a bad jump to try out.

All the Blackstone griddles get too hot according to what I’ve heard that’s the knock by the experienced type of griddle cook. I’d definitely pony up a little more for the small Weber if you are going entry point. 450 buys a Weber and all that goes with that brand. 
I was kinda shocked they offered their entry griddle at such a competitive price. 

Get too hot?  My issue is they get too hot locally and not even enough across the entire surface.  I have never had "too hot" everywhere be an issue.  You just turn the knob lower.

Hot/cold zones are a problem with every griddle I have used, including my Le Griddle.  Only way around it is to preheat for a long time.

pgprescott

Ozzie_Isaac said:

pgprescott said:

WildmanWilson said:

pgprescott said:

Most professional griddle folks claim people get the surface way too hot. Many items especially breakfast stuff is best at 375 and lower. They rarely get the surface above 500 and do the vast majority of cooking under 400. 

I’m no griddle guru that’s for sure but I’ve done a little research. That’s what I’ve found from looking around. Knock on BS griddles is that even on low they get way too hot. Some of the newer brand options do better at lower temps and even surface temps. 

2 cents prolly not worth a penny though. 😁

I read that as well. It got me to wondering about the cheaper model BS from Walmart. It says its 60K BTUs but it’s actually 38K BTUs and has the Omni top or something like that. The folks that have it seems to think it’s plenty hot and is easier on gas as well. For a 300 dollar purchase it may not be a bad jump to try out.

All the Blackstone griddles get too hot according to what I’ve heard that’s the knock by the experienced type of griddle cook. I’d definitely pony up a little more for the small Weber if you are going entry point. 450 buys a Weber and all that goes with that brand. 
I was kinda shocked they offered their entry griddle at such a competitive price. 

Get too hot?  My issue is they get too hot locally and not even enough across the entire surface.  I have never had "too hot" everywhere be an issue.  You just turn the knob lower.

Hot/cold zones are a problem with every griddle I have used, including my Le Griddle.  Only way around it is to preheat for a long time.

Even turned all the way down they get too hot for cooking eggs and other delicate items. I suppose if turn 1/2 off but also as you say they are terrible for evenness of temps across the surface. Are there work arounds, obviously there are. Why not buy one that is significantly better with heat contr and evenness?

Ozzie_Isaac

pgprescott said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

pgprescott said:

WildmanWilson said:

pgprescott said:

Most professional griddle folks claim people get the surface way too hot. Many items especially breakfast stuff is best at 375 and lower. They rarely get the surface above 500 and do the vast majority of cooking under 400. 

I’m no griddle guru that’s for sure but I’ve done a little research. That’s what I’ve found from looking around. Knock on BS griddles is that even on low they get way too hot. Some of the newer brand options do better at lower temps and even surface temps. 

2 cents prolly not worth a penny though. 😁

I read that as well. It got me to wondering about the cheaper model BS from Walmart. It says its 60K BTUs but it’s actually 38K BTUs and has the Omni top or something like that. The folks that have it seems to think it’s plenty hot and is easier on gas as well. For a 300 dollar purchase it may not be a bad jump to try out.

All the Blackstone griddles get too hot according to what I’ve heard that’s the knock by the experienced type of griddle cook. I’d definitely pony up a little more for the small Weber if you are going entry point. 450 buys a Weber and all that goes with that brand. 
I was kinda shocked they offered their entry griddle at such a competitive price. 

Get too hot?  My issue is they get too hot locally and not even enough across the entire surface.  I have never had "too hot" everywhere be an issue.  You just turn the knob lower.

Hot/cold zones are a problem with every griddle I have used, including my Le Griddle.  Only way around it is to preheat for a long time.

Even turned all the way down they get too hot for cooking eggs and other delicate items. I suppose if turn 1/2 off but also as you say they are terrible for evenness of temps across the surface. Are their work arounds, obviously there are. Why not buy one that is significantly better with heat contr and evenness?

What ones do you recommend?  I have used a few different types and they all have suffered unevenness to a degree.

pgprescott

According to the YouTube griddle reviews I’ve seen both the Webers and the Traeger are significantly better at keeping temps below 400 on low and pretty even across the entire surface as compared to the comparable other models. The webers are reasonably priced. 

Canugghead

Traeger figured Blackstone is so successful, so why not kill it with Flatrock, lol

Elijah

Camp chef stove and a griddle top. On low it gets to about 375 from my experience. I have the 14" stove. It does have the strip down the middle that's cooler and the corners as well. 

Tspud1

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Tspud1 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Have had 3 different griddles, 2 blackstones and 1 Le Griddle.  I love them.  If I had to choose a grill or a griddle, the griddle would probably win.

I recommend changing out the regulator for a higher BTU unit like the Bayou Classic 10psi unit.  This woke my griddles up!  Windy days are no problem.  Snow and ice, no problem.  Rain and hurricane, no problem.  Only issue is prodigious amounts of propane I use.

https://a.co/d/1bITizU

Did you have to change the air mixer setti ng on venturi?

Nope, just allows me to flow a lot more gas. Never ran into an issue with flame front or anything else.  I would preheat everything at medium before cranking it though.  The added BTUs were significant and I was concerned about warping if I go zero to full bore.

you might have more yellow flame but if working, dont fix it

pgprescott

Elijah said:

Camp chef stove and a griddle top. On low it gets to about 375 from my experience. I have the 14" stove. It does have the strip down the middle that's cooler and the corners as well. 

Camp chefs are also much better at temp control and even heating. https://youtu.be/qRL2-pdnw_U