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Questions about dome heat and raised direct

Was reading a thread on pork loin and 2 things were mentioned that i wasn't familiar with:
 Dome heat - is this that the thermometer on the dome reads?

Raised direct - to me it sounds like it's cooking directly over coals, but raised up higher than the grate normally sits? Is that right and if so, how much higher and how do you get it that high?
The pics I have seen do not look that much higher than normal.

Comments

  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,341
    Yes and yes. Raised is usually above the gasket. All kinds of ways to get it raised. If you type in "raised grid" you should see all kinds of examples for raising the grid. 
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • danhoo
    danhoo Posts: 704
    Direct is a grate on the fire ring

    Raised direct is a grate at the felt line and needs something to raise the grate.

    I have a PS woo. From ceramic grill store that raises the grate to the felt line with or without a platesetter. 
    current: | Large BGE |  Genesis 1000 | Genesis E330 | 22 inch Kettle | Weber Summit Kamado
    sold:| PitBoss pro 820  WSM 22 
  • danhoo
    danhoo Posts: 704
    Dome temp is used in most BGE recipes.

    Grate temp in my large is about 20 degrees lower than dome temp. Just an FYI. 
    current: | Large BGE |  Genesis 1000 | Genesis E330 | 22 inch Kettle | Weber Summit Kamado
    sold:| PitBoss pro 820  WSM 22 
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 5,905
    edited February 2022
    Once I started cooking at gasket level,  I never went back down below unless quantity of food dictated.  It is far easier to work with the food at that height.  No "digging down" to flip protien.  
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • bbracey21
    bbracey21 Posts: 319
    edited February 2022
    I too have the PSWoo from Ceramic Grill Store to raise the grid. I find cooking at the felt line is a must for certain proteins. It’s my 2nd favorite accessory to my thermoworks thermapen. 

    As mentioned different ways to get it raised but the PSWoo is perfect for me. Bonus it holds the platesetter for indirect cooking as well. 
  • danhoo
    danhoo Posts: 704
    current: | Large BGE |  Genesis 1000 | Genesis E330 | 22 inch Kettle | Weber Summit Kamado
    sold:| PitBoss pro 820  WSM 22 
  • RyanStl
    RyanStl Posts: 1,050
    edited February 2022
    Or you can get the cheaper Spider from Ceramic Grill Store to raise the grate.  I use it for that, holds my drip pan, and holds a wok 
  • Langner91
    Langner91 Posts: 2,120
    Three beer cans equally spaced and set on your fire ring, will raise your grid to felt level.  Try cooking chicken or pork there.  Brats are another thing that I wouldn't cook any other way.  It slows the direct cooking down enough to get the meat done in the middle without charring the outside so much.

    Then, if you like it, you can spend as much as you would like to raise it up.  Firebricks, rigs from CGS or BGE, soda cans, bolts and washers, there are a million ways to get the grid up higher.
    Clinton, Iowa
  • Powak
    Powak Posts: 1,412
    Raised direct’s great for larger cuts of meat like
    spatchcocked birds and pork tenderloins. It does make juicy burgers but I find you lose some
    of the mallaird effect you get when closer to the fire especially with chicken and pork.

    On the other hand if you cook at the felt you can load more coal in, up to and above the fire ring snd with the dome open/bottom vent closed you get a pretty nice setup for grilling.
  • 1voyager
    1voyager Posts: 1,157
    edited February 2022
    I built my own rig for raised direct/indirect cooking. This is a 17" Weber grate plus 4" stainless steel bolts, nuts and washers for my Large. Grate sits about 3" above the felt. (OK, @RRP Rutland.) This configuration is indirect, but my intention is to show you what "raised" looks like.


    Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser.
  • MasterC
    MasterC Posts: 1,467
    Eggspander and thefirebox eggstention gets the grid up to thermometer level.
    Fort Wayne Indiana 
  • danhoo
    danhoo Posts: 704
    edited February 2022
    There's lots of options for raised direct.   @JohnfromKentucky
    since you have the platesetter, the PSWoo is a good option for raised direct and raising indirect.

    Last weekend I found I had one piece of fruitwood that was smoking badly and needed to move it, and it was really convenient to pickup the entire setup including the ribs on the grate and move it aside to get to the coals.

    And my pellet grill is a nice heat proof side table 😉


    current: | Large BGE |  Genesis 1000 | Genesis E330 | 22 inch Kettle | Weber Summit Kamado
    sold:| PitBoss pro 820  WSM 22 
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,682
    never owned a platesetter, just used firebricks and a second grid

    Using Fire Bricks With Ceramic Cookers -- Naked Whiz Ceramic Charcoal  Cooking

    put a grid on top of this and its raised indirect, pull the ones out that are laying flat and its raised direct. did this for years til the ceramic grill store made the adjustable rig, makes things easier. tom at the store has a few options and its probably better to cook on the egg for a while before deciding whats best for you. thats a cheap weber 18 inch grid bought at homedepot under the setup which makes this solution easy and affordable

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it