Today is National Sandwich Day-to offer a debate once again "Is a hot-dog a sandwich?"

lousubcap

No contest: a hot-dog is not a sandwich and I won't even get into the mustard vs ketchup issue.  Feel free to slam this thread as hard as you would a great dog covered with mustard.  Happy Friday.  

Legume

No.

GATraveller

Who's on first? 

SciAggie

For fun - according to dictionary.com: a sandwich is “two or more slices of bread or the like with alayer of meat, fish, cheese, etc., between each pair.”
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sandwich
A hot dog is eaten on a bun - not slices of bread - so not a sandwich. 
(Don’t quote other definitions to me. I already searched until I found the one that agrees with my position.  )

lousubcap

What's on second and here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg  Classic!
Edit: for you baseball fans realizing the season is over-here's some history:

"A little background: Back in Teddy Roosevelt's day, the Cubs were a dynasty. They won National League pennants in 1906, '07, '08 and '10, and the World Series in 1907 and '08 (their last world championship until 2016, for those keeping score at home). Anchoring their infield were shortstop Joe Tinker, second baseman Johnny Evers and first baseman Frank Chance, the best double play combination of the day."

Ozzie_Isaac

A hotdog is not a sandwich.  It is pieces of meat in a tube.

A hotdog in a bun is still not a sandwich.

A hotdog, sliced in half, and placed between sliced bread is a sandwich.

HeavyG

By itself? No.

Sandwiched between two pieces of bread? Yes.

onedbguru

A hotdog on a bun is technically a sandwich. it is meat between 2 pieces of bread.  A bun is still bread and if you have ever tried to grill the bun, sometimes it breaks in half.  It is really no different than folding a single slice of bread with the "meat" in the middle.

(Mustard:YES! Ketchup:NEVER!!!)

GrillSgt

It is not. However if I own a restaurant the hot dog would have to be grouped right below or above the sandwiches along with the hamburgers. 

Carolina Q

SciAggie said:

(Don’t quote other definitions to me. I already searched until I found the one that agrees with my position.  )

hahahaha!

dmchicago

What's a taco then?

epcotisbest

Not a sandwich. 

jabam

dmchicago said:

What's a taco then?

Smaller than a burrito!

JohnnyTarheel

It is not a sandwich.... 

dmchicago

Velvet Taco?

nolaegghead

Also, it's national 3-some day.  Coincidence? 

nolaegghead

A sandwich is a food typically consisting of vegetables, sliced cheese or meat, placed on or between slices of bread, or more generally any dish wherein two or more pieces of bread serve as a container or wrapper for another food type.[1][2][3] The sandwich began as a portable finger food in the Western world, though over time it has become prevalent worldwide.

Sandwiches are a popular type of lunch food, taken to work, school, or picnics to be eaten as part of a packed lunch. The bread can be either plain, or coated with condiments such as mayonnaise or mustard, to enhance its flavour and texture. As well as being homemade, sandwiches are also widely sold in restaurants and can be served hot or cold.[4][5] There are both savoury sandwiches, such as deli meat sandwiches, and sweet sandwiches, such as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

The sandwich is considered to have been named after John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, the inventor, it is claimed, of this food combination.[6][7] The Wall Street Journal has described it as Britain's "biggest contribution to gastronomy".[8]

Contents

• 1 History
  • 1.1 Etymology
• 2 Usage
• 3 Varieties
• 4 See also
• 5 References
• 6 External links

History

Salmon-and-cream-cheese sandwiches on pieces of baguette

English sandwiches, crustless on a plate

Sandwich with fried egg, tomato and cucumber

Sandwich filled with olives and sliced red tomatoes

Fvcking Hotdogs are Sandwiches too, mthafckahs.

The modern concept of a sandwich using slices of bread as found within the West can arguably be traced to 18th century Europe. However, the use of some kind of bread or bread-like substance to lie under (or under and over) some other food, or used to scoop up and enclose or wrap some other type of food, long predates the eighteenth century, and is found in numerous much older cultures worldwide.

The ancient Jewish sage Hillel the Elder is said to have wrapped meat from the Paschal lamb and bitter herbs between two pieces of old-fashioned soft matzah—flat, unleavened bread—during Passover in the manner of a modern wrap made with flatbread.[9] Flat breads of only slightly varying kinds have long been used to scoop or wrap small amounts of food en route from platter to mouth throughout Western Asia and northern Africa. From Morocco to Ethiopia to India, bread is baked in flat rounds, contrasting with the European loaf tradition.

During the Middle Ages in Europe, thick slabs of coarse and usually stale bread, called "trenchers", were used as plates.[10] After a meal, the food-soaked trencher was fed to a dog or to beggars at the tables of the wealthy, and eaten by diners in more modest circumstances. The immediate culinary precursor with a direct connection to the English sandwich was to be found in the Netherlands of the seventeenth century, where the naturalist John Ray observed[11] that in the taverns beef hung from the rafters "which they cut into thin slices and eat with bread and butter laying the slices upon the butter"— explanatory specifications that reveal the Dutch belegde broodje, open-faced sandwich, was as yet unfamiliar in England.

Initially perceived as food that men shared while gaming and drinking at night, the sandwich slowly began appearing in polite society as a late-night meal among the aristocracy. The sandwich's popularity in Spain and England increased dramatically during the nineteenth century, when the rise of industrial society and the working classes made fast, portable, and inexpensive meals essential.[12] In London, for example, at least seventy street vendors were selling ham sandwiches by 1850; during that decade sandwich bars also became an important form of eating establishment in western Holland, typically serving liver and salt beef sandwiches.[13]

At the same time that the European-style sandwich finally began to appear outside of Europe. In the United States, the sandwich was first promoted as an elaborate meal at supper. By the early twentieth century, as bread became a staple of the American diet, the sandwich became the same kind of popular, quick meal as was already widespread in the Mediterranean.[12]

Etymology

The first written usage of the English word appeared in Edward Gibbon's journal, in longhand, referring to "bits of cold meat" as a "Sandwich".[14] It was named after John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, an eighteenth-century English aristocrat. It is said that he ordered his valet to bring him meat tucked between two pieces of bread, and others began to order "the same as Sandwich!"[6][7] It is commonly said that Lord Sandwich was fond of this form of food because it allowed him to continue playing cards, particularly cribbage, while eating, without using a fork, and without getting his cards greasy from eating meat with his bare hands.[6]

The rumour in its familiar form appeared in Pierre-Jean Grosley's Londres (Neuchâtel, 1770), translated as A Tour to London in 1772;[15] Grosley's impressions had been formed during a year in London in 1765. The sober alternative is provided by Sandwich's biographer, N. A. M. Rodger, who suggests Sandwich's commitments to the navy, and to politics and the arts, mean the first sandwich was more likely to have been consumed at his desk.

Before being known as sandwiches, this food combination seems to simply have been known as "bread and meat" or "bread and cheese".[6]

Usage

In the United States, a court in Boston, Massachusetts ruled in 2006 that a sandwich includes at least two slices of bread.[1] and "under this definition, this court finds that the term 'sandwich' is not commonly understood to include burritos, tacos, and quesadillas, which are typically made with a single tortilla and stuffed with a choice filling of meat, rice, and beans."[16] The issue stemmed from the question of whether a restaurant that sold burritos could move into a shopping centre where another restaurant had a no-compete clause in its lease prohibiting other "sandwich" shops.

In Spain, where the word sandwich is borrowed from the English language,[17] it refers to a food item made with English sandwich bread.[18] It is otherwise known as a bocadillo. Similar usage applies in other Spanish-speaking cultures, such as Mexico, where the word torta is also used for a popular variety of roll-type sandwiches.

In the United Kingdom and Australia, the term sandwich is more narrowly defined than in the US: it refers only to an item which uses sliced bread from a loaf.[citation needed] An item with similar fillings, but using an entire bread roll cut horizontally in half, is always referred to as a roll. (In South Australia, there is a regional variant of the roll, superficially similar to a club sandwich, where the bread roll is sliced three times with parallel cuts, and filling is put in the first and third openings, but not the second. This makes the resulting double cut roll easier to handle: the top half and the bottom half are eaten separately.) Any hot item based on a bread roll is referred to as a burger, never as a sandwich. However, hot sliced (not ground) beef between two slices of toasted bread is referred to as a steak sandwich: it is the sliced loaf bread that distinguishes the steak sandwich from a burger.[citation needed]

The verb to sandwich has the meaning "to position anything between two other things of a different character, or to place different elements alternately,"[19] and the noun sandwich has related meanings derived from this more general definition. For example, an ice cream sandwich consists of a layer of ice cream between two layers of cake or biscuit.[20] Similarly, Oreos and Custard Creams are described as sandwich biscuits (UK/Commonwealth) or sandwich cookies (US) because they consist of a soft filling between the baked layers.[21]

The word butty (a reference to the fact that butter is often used in British sandwiches) is common in some northern parts of England as a slang synonym for "sandwich", particularly to refer to certain kinds of sandwiches including the chip butty, bacon butty, or sausage butty, though some people[who?] make the distinction that a butty is made using a single buttered slice, folded over rather than cut. "Sarnie" is a similar colloquialism. Likewise, the word sanger is used for sandwich in Scottish dialect.[citation needed] The colloquial Scottish word piece may refer either to a sandwich or to a light meal, especially one that includes a sandwich. For example, the phrase jeely piece refers to a jam sandwich.[22]

lousubcap

@nolaegghead - fits like a glove... 

Ozzie_Isaac

@nolaegghead no hotdog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

nolaegghead

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@nolaegghead no hotdog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

You were saying?

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@nolaegghead no hotdog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

You were saying?

@nolaegghead no hot dog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

nolaegghead

Ozzie_Isaac said:

nolaegghead said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@nolaegghead no hotdog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

You were saying?

@nolaegghead no hot dog pictures in your explanation = not a sandwich.

Fake news!

JohnEggGio

Is a sandwich - the 2 slices of bread just happen to be hinged together.

TN_Egger

Damn Nola - did you just write out that treatise on hot dog, stream-of-conscious-ly?

nolaegghead

TN_Egger said:

Damn Nola - did you just write out that treatise on hot dog, stream-of-conscious-ly?

google - cntrl-c - cntrl-v, etc.

Hub

The only way a hotdog would be a sandwich would be if you smooshed it with some kind of steamroller or something.  And who the hell would want to do that?

SciAggie

nolaegghead said:

TN_Egger said:

Damn Nola - did you just write out that treatise on hot dog, stream-of-conscious-ly?

google - cntrl-c - cntrl-v, etc.

And it’s still wrong. A hot dog isn’t a sandwich.
we have two different emojis because they are two different thing.
edit>my whole argument is ruined - the emojis on my iPad don’t show up in my text here. 

Never mind. Carry on. (Feeling defeated)

TN_Egger

@nolaegghead...just giggin ya man.  Cuz I didn't see any citations...  (actually I think it's command c, command v)  

nolaegghead

TN_Egger said:

@nolaegghead...just giggin ya man.  Cuz I didn't see any citations...  (actually I think it's command c, command v)  

I know.  I have my Mac control and command keys mapped backwards so it's more like windows.

lousubcap

@TN_Egger friggin Windows vs Apple debate.  Why not-it's Friday and a clean topic.  

johnnyp

Hot dog is a sandwich. As is a burrito.  And the KFC Double Down