OT - Gas Ranges

kl8ton

I haven't sent the down payment on the appliance quote yet, so i am keeping an eye on this thread.

DoubleEgger

kl8ton said:

@DoubleEgger
That looks great.  Do you simmer with yours?  We were going to just get a wolf range top and get Kitchen Aid wall ovens, but it was going to be cheaper just to get the Wolf 48" 8 burner with double ovens.  

My wife does a decent amount of canning and with four large stock pots going on our current 4 burner stove, none of the pots are centered.  Plus those big red knobs have to be worth 2 grand, right!?!?

Yeah I simmer with it. It doesn't really seem like it goes lower than other units. It's got a dual eye. When simmering, the smaller eye just directs the heat at the center of the pot creating a hot spot. 

One other thing to note. They require at least a 3/4" gas line to the unit. That's larger than most standard lines and could add costs to your project. 

I'm hoping the knobs are worth $2k+. My rationale is that the housing market is fiercely competitive in Metro Atlanta. I'm hoping that the range and other upscale appliances (GE Advantium oven etc) will be a differentiator in appealing to the females. Might not get the money back but if the house sells faster, that's money in the bank. 

55Kevy

We built our retirement home in '13 & '14. I did a lot of research into the built-in appliances and ultimately selected Bluestar for the rangetop and Wolf for the wall ovens. I've really enjoyed the BS rangetop - 2 25K Btu burners and a little simmer burner that actually simmers.  We got a 48" model which is 8 burners, with 2 convertible to either a griddle or a grill (have only used the grill once - PIA to clean).  I kind of wish we'd gone BS for the wall oven, but was put off by the side opening doors - not something I'm familiar with. But the Wolf's door opening down means your leaning over a hot surface to baste, and getting a roasting pan out can be challenging.

jtcBoynton

northGAcock said:

@tarheelmatt Matt I have an Italian Oven / range made by a company Bertazzoni. Give them a look. They are not as pricey as commercial brands...but certainly north of you GE's if you will. I absolutely love mine. Wife is not a big fan of the oven as the cavity is not as large as most US ovens. It also (oven) heats up differently than what we are use to here in the US. The gas range......love it. Give them a look.  http://us.bertazzoni.com/ 

How does it heat up differently? Always looking for better ways to do things.  

northGAcock

tarheelmatt said:

Thanks all!  I think the wife is opposed to getting a higher end stove, but I told her it'll be the stove we have for a long time.  I'll talk her into it soon.  

Unless I move to a place without gas....mine will be going with me....and I will replace the stove.

kl8ton

@DoubleEgger
Thanks for the tip on 3/4 gas line.  I will pass this info on to my builder and he will then pass the cost on to me.  It seems everything is adding costs to my project.  

Any idea or concept that has been thought of has added cost.  You never hear "oh that will save you thousands and and it increases your homes value!"

blind99

i've had viking, thermador, wolf.  My favorite has been a Thermador. Check out the 36" gas cooktop.  Things I liked: 1 big burner for big pots.  Ability to simmer at low temps.  Controls face up, not out, handy for keeping small children from messing with them.  I also like having continuous grates across the top, it makes it easy to slide pots around.

I'd pick the features you want then look and see who has the best bang for the buck.  If it's GE, fantastic - I know they make a similar configuration.

@doubleegger I've got that unit.  Wife hates it.  It's got some issues with burners staying lit when the oven is roaring, may be due to gas line size or just poor design - apparently they've changed things since ours was made.  does yours do that?  it's a beast.  if we are under attack i plan to hide in that thing.

if i were redoing, i'd have a gas rangetop, and electric double ovens in the wall.

DoubleEgger

@blind99 it's a gas line issue. I bet you've got a 1/2" gas line. 

DoubleEgger

@kl8ton Give your builder a copy of this.

http://www2.subzero-wolf.com/products/downloads/gasrangeinstall.pdf

buzd504

blind99 said:

if i were redoing, i'd have a gas rangetop, and electric double ovens in the wall.

The Verona I linked earlier has a gas cooktop and electric oven that has a convection feature as well.  Best of both worlds.  We added a Bosch electric wall oven, rather than going with a dual oven range.  I'm really happy we did that.

WeberWho

tarheelmatt said:

WeberWho said:

Legume said:

I thought everyone cooked everything in their eggs?

We had a stove that didn't work for 4.5 years. No point to fix it since we had the egg and the stove top still functioned. Finally replaced the oven 6 months ago but now I just refuse to use it. Everything I cook is based for the egg so the oven doesn't even cross my mind. My wife likes a functioning oven though.

I like my Eggs, but I gotta go with what puts food on the table the best way possible.  

I hear you. I should have replaced it long ago. With good lump and a weed burner I could get the large fired up almost as fast as the oven temp. When we bought the house the stove never worked so we kind of made what we had work. It was also a time where I was able to get 30+ bags of Ozark Oak at a time for $0.60 lb. I didn't feel bad firing up the large for a cardboard pizza. Now paying $1 lb. for similar lump has me thinking twice what should be tossed in. 

kl8ton

@DoubleEgger
Thanks!

theyolksonyou

How do you feel about sinks?

johnmitchell

Matt not sure if you have chosen the cabinetry but @Thatgrimguy might be onto something here... A little South African flair...

tarheelmatt

theyolksonyou said:

How do you feel about sinks?

I want to make sure I do that right too.  I was going to hit you up on that.  

tarheelmatt

johnmitchell said:

Matt not sure if you have chosen the cabinetry but @Thatgrimguy might be onto something here... A little South African flair...

Pretty cool there John!  

tarheelmatt

blind99 said:

i've had viking, thermador, wolf.  My favorite has been a Thermador. Check out the 36" gas cooktop.  Things I liked: 1 big burner for big pots.  Ability to simmer at low temps.  Controls face up, not out, handy for keeping small children from messing with them.  I also like having continuous grates across the top, it makes it easy to slide pots around.

I'd pick the features you want then look and see who has the best bang for the buck.  If it's GE, fantastic - I know they make a similar configuration.

@doubleegger I've got that unit.  Wife hates it.  It's got some issues with burners staying lit when the oven is roaring, may be due to gas line size or just poor design - apparently they've changed things since ours was made.  does yours do that?  it's a beast.  if we are under attack i plan to hide in that thing.

if i were redoing, i'd have a gas rangetop, and electric double ovens in the wall.

@blind99, I never thought about going that route.  I like that option a lot, honestly.  There's one that is pretty neat, has 5 burners though, which would probably be enough.   

http://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/CGP650SETSS

bgebrent

I've had a Wolf and loved it!  When we upgrade our kitchen it'll be Wolf again.

Bustersdad

We recently updated our kitchen cooktop.  We went with the 30" Blue Star due to the high btu burners

kl8ton

theyolksonyou said:

How do you feel about sinks?

New thread!  Although i don't really care too much about them.  I just want a big sink to easily wash big pans.

@johnmitchell  sweet rig

I would suspect that my family is in the minority here but we go microwave-less.  Not even planning a spot for one in the new kitchen.  

theyolksonyou

Apparently my attempt at humor went down the drain...

tarheelmatt

Dang, my thread is sinking.

theyolksonyou

I do really like our sink though. 

kl8ton

to much mention of other cooking devices

tarheelmatt

Okay, I get it.. Sinks and sinking.  Duh!

I do want to know about sinks. 

kl8ton

theyolksonyou said:

Apparently my attempt at humor went down the drain...

i DO see what you did there. . .. 

tarheelmatt

Someone can post about fishing in the rain, in the main section, and that's all good. I post about OT , in OT and they sink my stuff.  

DoubleEgger

Depending on how you configure your kitchen, I'd look at a higher end range top and double wall ovens. 

Here's the six burner Wolf range top 

http://www.subzero-wolf.com/wolf/cooktops-and-rangetops/range-top/36-inch-sealed-burner-rangetop-6-burners

blind99

Yep Matt, that's it. To be honest low heat is more important to me than high. Water will boil eventually, and really high heat is for your egg/wok combo. But if you can't simmer a sauce without burning it that's a bummer. 

@DoubleEgger someday I'll pull out the range (when I get a tow truck into my kitchen) and find out. Doubt I'll run new gas pipe though!

DoubleEgger

@blind99 You should have a shutoff accessible without having to remove your range. It's probably if your basement or crawl space if you have one. You'll be able to tell the size there.