OT- Superman and the Super Bowl.

SGH

Now that the dust has settled, what are your thoughts on game and how it played out? My honest opinion is it was the sorriest Super Bowl I ever watched. Down right boring to be honest. The only time I got remotely excited was when GaGa took to the stage and when Scam melted like a little girl under pressure and handed Denver the ball in the end zone. Short of this, boring. 
Going into the game I really thought Carolina had way to much horsepower for Denver. And I still believe that Carolina is the better all around team. But the game proved one thing to me, no matter how much horsepower you have, you are only as good as the man behind the wheel. I give Scam 100% credit for Carolinas loss. He didn't live up to the hype. Had Carolina had anyone else at the helm, they would be the champs right now. Even a high school quarter back would have done better than the gutless wonder did. 
For the record, I hate Denver. I always have. On the other hand, I have always liked Carolina. So it was a lose lose for me either way unless you take Scam out of the equation and then I would have been rooting for Carolina all the way. Again, it really was the worst Super Bowl I remember seeing. The highlights being GaGa looking good and Scam looking like a school yard sissy scared to play with the big boys. Congratulations to the Denver Broncos for the win. And congrats to Manning for being a true class act and leader. I have a few words I would like to say about Scam, but with the buffalo ever watchful, I will refrain for obvious reasons. 
Your thoughts on the game? 

epcotisbest

If you give Newton 100% credit for the loss then you are giving Denver's defense 0% credit. 

SGH

epcotisbest said:

If you give Newton 100% credit for the loss then you are giving Denver's defense 0% credit. 

As good as Denvers defense is, Scam made it real easy for them. Wouldn't even attempt to recover fumbles, handed them the ball in the end zone etc, etc. 

northGAcock

thought CN's gold shoes with MVP on them were way over the chart. Don't get me wrong, he will probably donate them or auction for a nice chunk of change, but just says Pompas A$$ to me. I was pulling for the Panthers....but had my fill of Cam while he took a couple of games from my boys. He does a lot of great things in the Charlotte Community....but got something that was coming to him last night.

As for the Supper Bowl.....I don't think it was as close as the score indicated. The Bronco's dominated the game start to finish if you ask me. Would have preferred a better game.....even if it was a defensive struggle.

lkapigian

Played out exactly how I though, including his post game interview- I took 5:1 odds in Vegas back in December for Denver to go all the way...I knew Manning would be irrelevant..It was Denver Defense vs Cam, Manning just had to play prevent........Cam would never stack up against the Denver Defense

epcotisbest

Well I read somewhere on the internet that Denver D had nothing to do with the Carolina loss.

lkapigian

https://amp.twimg.com/v/396c8771-8fce-41e2-a4b7-70d952725bba Hear the real interview

Phatchris

Well Denver D shut down Tom Terrific and the rest of the Pats so hats off to them... Von Miller is a beast... What would be the outcome if Cam and Miller were swapped.... Carolina took cam #1 and Miller went #2 to Denver.... Oh and Brady deflates balls and Miller tries to corrupt drug test... Everyone bends the rules... If ya ain't cheatin you ain't trying...

GregW

I agree, it was the worst Super Bowl that I can remember.
I didn't care for the half time show either.

YukonRon

Denver's defense scored 6, Denver's offense scored. Denver's defense won the game. The MVP of the Super Bowl did not lead the team in tackles or fumble recoveries. He got all the credit for stopping Cam Newton.
Best team won. That team also had the best Defense in the NFL.
Cam made it easy, but the Denver Broncos did it.
Super Bowl Champions.
Offense controls the clock. Defense wins championships. 

tarheelmatt

Nice seeing the butt hurt Bama fans from the Auburn national championship year when Cam was the QB.... 

Riddle me this.... 

So Peyton walks off the field in a Super Bowl loss to Drew Brees and the Saints without congratulating them and nothing is said but that he's class and a competitor.  Or how about when Peyton threw his entire O line under the bus about no protection?

My question for all the complainers: Do you think the player should show class to his fellow competitor or is it more important to show class to the MEDIA? Chew on that one for a while.

Is their a reason why the NFL would have players from both teams in the same area conducting post game interviews? Is it better that Cam said very little to the media or would it have been better for him to dish out the reasons why they lost? Fumble by Tolbert, 4 Dropped Passes that hit both hands of his receiver (sorry actually only 3 because the 4th was intercepted), Offensive Line who struggled and on the sack fumble for a TD the Offensive Tackle whiffed on the guy? No you guys would rather hate on him and drop the blame solely on his shoulders. 2 of the 3 turnovers credited to him are the results of his players not making routine plays. Just keeping it real here.  

Let's face it here, Denver's D is bad azz.  They stopped the Panthers and the Patriots.  It's amazing that people question Cam's ability, but not Brady's and Denver's D produced similar results.  

SGH

GregW said:

I didn't care for the half time show either.

I didn't either. Short of GaGa, the entertainment sucked. It was like watching Scam. 

tarheelmatt

SGH

tarheelmatt said:
  It's amazing that people question Cam's ability, but not Brady's 

This is probably because Brady has won 4 Super Bowls and his team was dominant for a decade. So dominant in fact that they are referred to as "The Dynasty". Love him or hate him (I'm not a fan) it's kind of hard to deny Brady's accomplishments and abilities. His team, just like the Crimson Tide, has been the standout for years. Only the Patriots and the Crimson Tide have 4 titles in the past decade. No other teams stats even come close to this accomplishment. Scam has a long way to go to accomplish what Brady has. 

tarheelmatt

SGH said:

tarheelmatt said:
  It's amazing that people question Cam's ability, but not Brady's 

This is probably because Brady has won 4 Super Bowls and his team was dominant for a decade. So dominant in fact that they are referred to as "The Dynasty". Love him or hate him (I'm not a fan) it's kind of hard to deny Brady's accomplishments and abilities. His team, just like the Crimson Tide, has been the standout for years. Only the Patriots and the Crimson Tide have 4 titles in the past decade. No other teams stats even come close to this accomplishment. Scam has a long way to go to accomplish what Brady has. 

Your comment was based on the present year, not past years.... 

Denver D did the same thing to Tom Damn Brady, Scottie.  WTH is the difference here?  

Phatchris

tarheelmatt said:

SGH said:

tarheelmatt said:
  It's amazing that people question Cam's ability, but not Brady's 

This is probably because Brady has won 4 Super Bowls and his team was dominant for a decade. So dominant in fact that they are referred to as "The Dynasty". Love him or hate him (I'm not a fan) it's kind of hard to deny Brady's accomplishments and abilities. His team, just like the Crimson Tide, has been the standout for years. Only the Patriots and the Crimson Tide have 4 titles in the past decade. No other teams stats even come close to this accomplishment. Scam has a long way to go to accomplish what Brady has. 

Your comment was based on the present year, not past years.... 

Denver D did the same thing to Tom Damn Brady, Scottie.  WTH is the difference here?  

Tom doesn't Dab?

chadpsualum

The only thing I hold against Cam Newton is that he is very good about handling the winning...just not the losing.  If you're going to Dab and do the Superman and take team selfies when you win, then you need to pull off your hoodie, look at the media and give more than 1 or 2 word answers to their questions.  No, you don't need to throw your team under the bus, but you do have to lose with the same class that you have when you win.  Walking off early from the podium was not the way to do it.  A guy wearing MVP shoes should know that.

jonnymack

I enjoyed Denver's D versus Carolina O. While the play may not have been sharp, the energy was high and you could feel the desparation on both sides to succeed. I think people are making more of the Cam thing than needs to be made. He could absolutely have handled it better and with more class. He wants to the leader and center of attention, well you need to do that when it goes bad too. He'll learn. 

That being said, yes it was far from the best SB I've ever watched. 

XLBalco

cam showed up, he just happened to get hit repeatedly and like the rest of the team, they didnt know how to recover.  they were down 6 points most of the game but it might as well been 60 the way they played.

Cam isnt a fluke.  he was the MVP and deservedly so, but that is where you give Denver the credit.  he was shook.

fishepa

Cam is a very emotional player and wears his emotions on his sleeve. I think today if he had to do it all over he would do it differently. 

WeberWho

I have hope for my Vikings after watching this game. Mike Zimmer has turned around one of the worst defenses in the league to one of the best in two years. I can wait and see how they are in a couple years. Offensively they aren't very good without Peterson. I'm hoping Teddy gets better. Probably wishful thinking but we don't have much else to root for here in MN

JRWhitee

The highlight of the game was the Brisket I made, it got more Kudos than the game!

Denver's defense was awesome but scam did make it easy for them. I could not believe he didn't dive for that last fumble, that tells me everything I need to know about him. I remember Jeff George did that once while playing for the Vikings and he never lived that down.

CtTOPGUN

 I was so happy that it was Cam Newton fumbling and giving up those points. There is no place in team sports for his cocky antics. It was nice to see him taken down a peg. As a Jet fan I hated what Gastineau used to do equally.

 Denver defense was outstanding! Defense can still win no matter how many rules the NFL tries to shackle them with. A good defensive coordinator and the right personel can shut down any offense. Happens almost every time the best defense is in the big game. This game was a throwback to the way football was intended to be played before it was pussified. I enjoyed it immensely.

   Jim

XLBalco

you must of hated when favre ran all over the field fist pumping or tom brady when he would run 80 yards and head butt a teammate after a touchdown... or are those not cocky antics?

i have no love for cam but let's be honest, plenty of other athletes do the same thing and no one mentions it..  problem is- cam is a manchild.  he has been coddled since HS and doesnt handle disappointment well at all.

SGH

tarheelmatt said:

Your comment was based on the present year, not past years.... 

Denver D did the same thing to Tom Damn Brady, Scottie.  WTH is the difference here?  

A valid point. But it also reinforces my very point. When Denver shutdown Brady, he was already one of the accomplished and proven greats. A proven quarterback with many records and titles to his credit. If he never wins or plays another game, there is no denying his accomplishments. Any praise that Brady gets is deserved for all that he has accomplished through the years. No one can win them all. But for over a decade Brady has continuously led the Pats to winning seasons and Super Bowls. None of the above can be said about Cam. 
In Cams case, all the media talk and build up was just that. He is called Superman and the Greatest ever. Heck he hasn't been playing long enough to have earned the title of greatest at anything. Most true football fans find it insulting when the media portrays Cam as the second coming of Christ. He may go on to great things and break all the records, but to portray him in the light that they have up to this point is just wrong.
 There are many active quarterbacks out there that have accomplished far more than Cam has at this point. To me, Cam is akin to Rhonda Rousey. Pretty good but marketed as great. Like Cam, RR was billed as Superwoman, unbeatable and the greatest ever. When in fact she really never fought a known opponent. She was just a pretty face with a big ego and mouth. The first time she faced a talented fighter she was beat to a pulp and knocked cold out. Couldn't live up to the hype. Cam was billed and made out to be the same way. He said it himself and I quote "You have never seen nothing like me". Like Rousey, when he finally got hit, he folded. 
I have never liked seeing anyone get credit that they haven't earned. Cam has been a media darling up to this point for one reason and one reason only. And it's not his talent. We all know what it is so there is no need in me tempting the buffalo by point it out. If he ever accomplishes what Brady or Manning has, I will be the first to give him the credit that he deserves, though admittedly begrudgingly because I simply can't stand him. I for one was glad to see both Superwoman and Superman fall. I have never liked self appointed champions like Cam and Rousey. Just my thoughts brother Tar. 

Sardonicus

tarheelmatt said:

SGH said:

tarheelmatt said:
  It's amazing that people question Cam's ability, but not Brady's 

This is probably because Brady has won 4 Super Bowls and his team was dominant for a decade. So dominant in fact that they are referred to as "The Dynasty". Love him or hate him (I'm not a fan) it's kind of hard to deny Brady's accomplishments and abilities. His team, just like the Crimson Tide, has been the standout for years. Only the Patriots and the Crimson Tide have 4 titles in the past decade. No other teams stats even come close to this accomplishment. Scam has a long way to go to accomplish what Brady has. 

Your comment was based on the present year, not past years.... 

Denver D did the same thing to Tom Damn Brady, Scottie.  WTH is the difference here?  

  
The difference?  Gosh.  Who knows?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCt6VZrKGsM
  

fishepa

People just prefer the "Awww gee gosh golly I'm just happy to be here" attitude. Peyton is a great example of that. 

SGH

fishepa said:

People just prefer the "Awww gee gosh golly I'm just happy to be here" attitude. Peyton is a great example of that. 

This is not true. But there are still a lot of people who do prefer to see people present themselves in a respectable and dignified manner. Manning and Brady both are good examples of this. Like them or not, they are professionals, not street thugs or hooloigans. 

SGH

XLBalco said:

you must of hated when favre ran all over the field fist pumping or tom brady when he would run 80 yards and head butt a teammate after a touchdown... or are those not cocky antics?

This is totally different. Favre and Brady was just celebrating. They didn't self appoint themselves King. No where near the same thing as the thugs antics. 

Sardonicus

<sigh>

tarheelmatt

Street thugs? Hooligans?