Outdoor Kitchen Design Draft/Need Input

ob

Here's a rough draft of the outdoor kitchen layout I'm thinking about building.  The concrete pad is 14x14 with water, electric and sewer drain.  I have a sink, frig, propane single burner and a large and small BGE in the design.  Any ideas or suggestions could be helpful.  Anyone have an outdoor kitchen in a L shape design.  Pictures would be appreciate.   Before I do the kitchen I intend to put up a covered gable roof pergola with 6.12 pitch, 8" cedar post and shingles to match house. 

GregW

It looks great.
I have a good outdoor cooking area, not nearly as nice as yours will be.
The only thing I would be sure of is to make sure you have really good lighting.
Not being able to see the egg grid during night cooks is extremely frustrating and has caused me numerous cooking mistakes.
I plan to rectify this before summer season sets in.........I've suffered too long. 

4Runner

Nothing to add but bumping this in hopes of good responses.  

SSN686

Morning ob:

Here is my set-up...I don't have the "bar" but otherwise really like the "L" shape...Having a large sink is great (mine is 19" square) for easy cleanup...I do have a old full-size refrigerator too (my back was against it when the picture was taken)...we had years of great use out of it...not much I would have done differently.

DeltaNu1142

I started a similar thread a few weeks ago. Mine will be an L-shape as well, but the "short" leg of the L will be mostly for seating... and probably beer dispensing with a kegerator below the counter.

Thatgrimguy

I would suggest you put your Large Egg in the corner. The corner is basically dead space and an Egg works wonderfully in there. It will give you more useable counter space.  

DeltaNu1142

Thatgrimguy said:

The corner is basically dead space and an Egg works wonderfully in there. It will give you more useable counter space.  

That's exactly what the Outdoor Kitchen Store (Tampa) said to me. Sound reasoning.

@ob, @Thatgrimguy, you guys both did (or are doing) a single burner and no gasser. Any reason? Do you wish you did? I expect to use the grill a lot with a CI griddle, which would work just as well on burners, so I'm conflicted. I'm thinking about resale, I guess.

Thatgrimguy

@DeltaNu1142  I have a dual burner in mine.  I wish it was more powerful. It's weak.  But past that it's perfect. No need for more, but I have used both eyes often. I think the stove a big plus. I fry on it, I sear my steaks on it. I love it.

As far as a gasser (gas grill) I have never once wished for one. I do have a blackstone griddle though. I got it a year after doing this so it's just chilling on the deck in the corner. I think that would be an AWESOME addition if you can find room.

badinfluence

Last thing I would be building a outdoor kitchen for is resale. If you are planning on moving soon then just put them in a nest. If you plan on staying then build what YOU want NOT what you THINK they next person might want...just my .02

DeltaNu1142

Yes, I suppose that's true. I'm building my backyard up because I expect to be here for a while.

Thatgrimguy said:

As far as a gasser (gas grill) I have never once wished for one. I do have a blackstone griddle though. I got it a year after doing this so it's just chilling on the deck in the corner. I think that would be an AWESOME addition if you can find room.

Well, I had always thought a flat top griddle would get more use than a gas grill. But then I thought I could just use a CI griddle. So I'm waffling between gas grill with CI, or flat top SS griddle, and now maybe... dual-burner with CI. I'd also looked at some burner/griddle combos. But they're spendy.

@ob, I don't want to hijack your thread, I just didn't get that info in my thread.

Thatgrimguy

DeltaNu1142 said:

Yes, I suppose that's true. I'm building my backyard up because I expect to be here for a while.

Thatgrimguy said:

As far as a gasser (gas grill) I have never once wished for one. I do have a blackstone griddle though. I got it a year after doing this so it's just chilling on the deck in the corner. I think that would be an AWESOME addition if you can find room.

Well, I had always thought a flat top griddle would get more use than a gas grill. But then I thought I could just use a CI griddle. So I'm waffling between gas grill with CI, or flat top SS griddle, and now maybe... dual-burner with CI. I'd also looked at some burner/griddle combos. But they're spendy.

@ob, I don't want to hijack your thread, I just didn't get that info in my thread.

Look into this bad boy. I'm having it built into my Shirley trailer.

http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Expedition-Burner-Stove/dp/B00A0M2P4C

They make lots of awesome accessories, that let you use it as a 12", 24" or 36" griddle, a 24" gas grill, a stove (30k btu per burner) or even a pizza oven. It's also relatively portable which is nice.

DeltaNu1142

That's versatile... now, give me that, built-in! 

Thatgrimguy

DeltaNu1142 said:

That's versatile... now, give me that, built-in! 

That's easy enough. Build it in!

annjamaican

All your setups are so amazing! Making me feel inadequate with my single, freestanding egg on the deck.

jonessteave

Hello. I am in the planning process of my project and have quite a few questions. First, I have been searching on the internet and cannot find a DIY forum directed specifically toward outdoor kitchens and bbq island construction and design. Does anybody know of one? Also, I have noticed most islands are based on galvanized studs or block foundations and I was wondering if I could weld a frame out of square tubing, seems easier and sturdier to me ex display kitchens Glasgow. I was wondering why more people don't do it this way or if there was a downside to it. Thats it, for now, Thanks in advance for the help.

danhoo

jonessteave said:

Hello. I am in the planning process of my project and have quite a few questions. First, I have been searching on the internet and cannot find a DIY forum directed specifically toward outdoor kitchens and bbq island construction and design. Does anybody know of one? Also, I have noticed most islands are based on galvanized studs or block foundations and I was wondering if I could weld a frame out of square tubing, seems easier and sturdier to me ex display kitchens Glasgow. I was wondering why more people don't do it this way or if there was a downside to it. Thats it, for now, Thanks in advance for the help.

I lurk in this FB group. "outdoor kitchen and bar" 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/251573599475034

Corv

Suggestion - change your narrower counters to at least 30". It makes a difference.

bobroo

I think a shortcoming that pops up after a build is to have ample counter space adjoining the Egg. Meaning: there are always platters, utensils, pepper mills, cutting boards, or your cocktail in use when cooking and they need a place to rest preferably immediately next to your BBQ. I would make the Egg side longer if this were my house.

Money_Hillbilly

@ob  My son builds custom outdoor kitchens and the appliances you add should match your cooking needs and how you plan to use the space.  If you are just building a cooking station your space is adequate but if you plan to eat outside and/or add a tv and outdoor furniture then I would recommend a minimum of 20’ x 20’.  Think kitchen, dining and family room in one space.  The latest trend is to build in a power burner instead of regular 2 burner setup.  It allows you to fry, wok, gumbo, jambalaya, etc.   As for construction he recommends 100% brick or thin concrete blocks with real stone faces.  It doesn’t cost any more than wood with a stacked stone or other surface.  Here are some ideas:

Ozzie_Isaac

OP asked in 2016.  Maybe he can show is what he built and provide feedback for future builders?

Langner91

Average home ownership is less than 7 years.  Maybe another egger moved into his place and can show us?