New Egg, new table!

Jfletch74

This is my new XL BGE sitting in the table that I had built by woodbydana.com. The table is super solid and looks great as well!

JGoodson

Nice set up. Enjoy!

bweekes

Looks great. Perfect rise on the egg, and gotta love the bottle opener!

NPHuskerFL

Welcome!  Beautiful table. I see the stones for heat absorption but, cannot see what's below the stone...only suggestion, if I may, would be a nest for fire safety reasons. 

Jfletch74

I don't think that the stones get hot enough to warrant a nest. And plus the rise is just perfect and I wouldn't want to mess with that!

ilwaldens

I had my table built by Dana as well.  It was for a large and I got the deluxe unit.  My husband and I had a great time traveling to Georgia to pick it up (we live in Illinois.  Your table and egg look great!

RAC

Very nice! Welcome

mtbguy

Nice, Welcome aboard.

theyolksonyou

I'll say this. Had a paver under my large less than 3 months and the wood underneath was charred. Get a table nest, damn the height. 

Hawg Fan

Welcome to the forum!  Post some cooks when you get a chance.

Jaime

Really great looking table!

Jfletch74

Thanks everyone!

Hunter1881

Welcome. Nice table!

bluebird66

Nice table!

Spaightlabs

You won't have to worry about the height after your house burns down.  I had mine on a paver with an air gap.  Paver cracked at some point, allowing sufficient heat to radiate to the framing to start the table on fire. You have the crack prebuilt into yours by using  3 stones.

One year ago this week.  i had shut everything down at 10:30 Am, 15 hours later I was standing in the street in my boxers watching my house burn.  Total loss.

it wasn't so fun that I'd recommend going through it because you don't want to lift your egg a couple inches.

You  might get away with it if you stay low and slow, never do a clean burn, don't reverse sear, stay away from pizzas...but if you keep that set up make sure your kids know how to get out of the house in the event of a fire.  When the hallway from your bedroom to the front door is burning **** gets real. 

Sorry to be Donnie Downer, but you need to fix this pronto.

hope you have many years of enjoyment. 

Miked125

Beauty!

Jfletch74

Spaightlabs said:

You won't have to worry about the height after your house burns down.  I had mine on a paver with an air gap.  Paver cracked at some point, allowing sufficient heat to radiate to the framing to start the table on fire. You have the crack prebuilt into yours by using  3 stones.

One year ago this week.  i had shut everything down at 10:30 Am, 15 hours later I was standing in the street in my boxers watching my house burn.  Total loss.

it wasn't so fun that I'd recommend going through it because you don't want to lift your egg a couple inches.

You  might get away with it if you stay low and slow, never do a clean burn, don't reverse sear, stay away from pizzas...but if you keep that set up make sure your kids know how to get out of the house in the event of a fire.  When the hallway from your bedroom to the front door is burning **** gets real. 

Sorry to be Donnie Downer, but you need to fix this pronto.

hope you have many years of enjoyment. 

After listening to several suggestions to add a table nest, I am definitely going to heed this advice and purchase one. After all I am very new to this. Thanks for the tips!

MediumRarely

I am not a lawyer, but Dana needs to get his act together.  Anyone who is in business providing products that are not safe has at least two major issues.  First is obviously product liability.  The second (and most important - to me anyway) is living with yourself should anything happen that money can't fix!

If Dana is on this forum (as well as others providing tables, etc.) please take note.  If not, then someone should provide him/them with a bit advice/feedback.

Note:  BGE does a pretty good job at protecting themselves (and eggheads) in this particular area with their notice online.

Just a thought.

HeavyG

MediumRarely said:

I am not a lawyer, but Dana needs to get his act together.  Anyone who is in business providing products that are not safe has at least two major issues.  First is obviously product liability.  The second (and most important - to me anyway) is living with yourself should anything happen that money can't fix!

If Dana is on this forum (as well as others providing tables, etc.) please take note.  If not, then someone should provide him/them with a bit advice/feedback.

Note:  BGE does a pretty good job at protecting themselves (and eggheads) in this particular area with their notice online.

Just a thought.

Does BGE HQ really do a pretty good job at protecting themselves? Is Dana really at fault here?

Right from the horses mouth:

http://www.biggreenegg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BGE-TP-LARGE.pdf

MediumRarely

HeavyG said:

MediumRarely said:

I am not a lawyer, but Dana needs to get his act together.  Anyone who is in business providing products that are not safe has at least two major issues.  First is obviously product liability.  The second (and most important - to me anyway) is living with yourself should anything happen that money can't fix!

If Dana is on this forum (as well as others providing tables, etc.) please take note.  If not, then someone should provide him/them with a bit advice/feedback.

Note:  BGE does a pretty good job at protecting themselves (and eggheads) in this particular area with their notice online.

Just a thought.

Does BGE HQ really do a pretty good job at protecting themselves? Is Dana really at fault here?

Right from the horses mouth:

http://www.biggreenegg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BGE-TP-LARGE.pdf

Hmmm.  I may have to re-position myself regarding BGE HQ.  If I were them, consideration should be given to "requiring" the use of the nest (or other air gap device) for tables, etc., as well as some sort of warning/disclaimer. 

Dana (and others), however, would have liability if a product caused harm while being used under "normal" conditions.

woodbydana

MediumRarely said:

I am not a lawyer, but Dana needs to get his act together.  Anyone who is in business providing products that are not safe has at least two major issues.  First is obviously product liability.  The second (and most important - to me anyway) is living with yourself should anything happen that money can't fix!

If Dana is on this forum (as well as others providing tables, etc.) please take note.  If not, then someone should provide him/them with a bit advice/feedback.

Note:  BGE does a pretty good job at protecting themselves (and eggheads) in this particular area with their notice online.

Just a thought.

Well, I just thought for the heck of it I would come to this website and do a search on "Wood by Dana" to see what comes up.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised...  There's a know-it-all in every crowd... 

First of all, I build tables with a concrete insulator/spacer that is under the Big Green Egg.  I do not tell my customers not to use the ceramic feet or the table nest.  I don't know how you concluded that I do.  And then you basically accuse me of being stupid.  I expect people will use their grill as directed by the manufacturer.  I don't have any problem with my personal table getting hot, but I have never told a customer not to use an air gap. 

I do carry a One Million Dollar business liability policy, but I don't think I'll be needing it because someone doesn't set up their grill properly.  I am not the grill police.  I sell the table and the customer is responsible for using it properly.  I do not go to their home and make sure they set it up and use it safely or properly.  I take it that is what "normal conditions" is, safe and proper use? 

I feel for the guy who lost his house because his BGE table caught on fire.  It wasn't one of my tables.  I wouldn't advocate for using a grill with a fire in it close enough to your house so that if something went wrong it would likely burn your house down.  I think the negligence is on the individual who left a hot fire unattended for hours too close to his home.  So this should be a lesson to all readers.  Grill in the yard, keep a close eye on your grill until it's not hot anymore or be willing to accept the outcome.

In conclusion, I guess you really aren't a lawyer.  And maybe you need to get your act together.  I don't appreciate your accusations or your know-it-all attitude.

Dana

gmbbs

A little looking around at flooring stores and you can find a large (as big as 24x24") ceramic or porcelain floor tile. One of those under a table nest and a wood table would be well protected.

In my humble opinion, your mileage may vary, enter at your own risk, look left, then right, then left again, past results are no indication of future returns, objects in mirror are closer than they appear...

Tspud1

We have a user that claims his house burned down even with a paver under egg, Spaightlabs. I may put a temp probe under the egg and see what kind of readings I get over a long cook. My Fluke will give max temp reached number as well as graph over time. Can't burn my table anyway but still curious.

NPHuskerFL

@Tspud1 It gets hot as Hades!  Especially after a long Za session. The MM does as well. The little legs on the carrier barely give an air gap and after searing or zas is effing super hot. I'm sure other MM owners have noticed this also. 

Spaightlabs

Tspud1 said:

We have a user that claims his house burned down even with a paver under egg, Spaightlabs. I may put a temp probe under the egg and see what kind of readings I get over a long cook. My Fluke will give max temp reached number as well as graph over time. Can't burn my table anyway but still curious.

I don't 'claim'...it's a fact.  There are pictures on this site of my setup from before the fire.

I had a paver and an air gap.  Forensic engineers examined everything post fire.  No crack in the base of the egg.  Cracked paver underneath the egg.

I suspect that my use an aftermarket grate may have played a role - that grate seemed to allow a good amount of lump through to sit on the bottom of the vessel and to continue to burn, and I'd think that would contribute to much higher temperatures at the bottom of the egg.

I'd be interested in your findings.  Friend of ours had the exact same build on his table.  Talked to him after our fire, he checked underneath his table, no crack inches paver, but had some light charring of the wood framing members...

NPHuskerFL

@Spaightlabs ^^^ meaning the use of a different fire grate allows the bottom of the base to become hotter than the factory fire grate?  Ya I can see that. Even with the lift on my MM using the KAB I can physically feel the radiant heat. I may do one cook with the factory grate and one with the KAB going at the same temp to compare. Interesting theory and quite plausible. 

logchief

@Jfletch74, Welcome and looking forward to seeing that XL lit up and some good cook pics.  This is what happens here sometimes

NPHuskerFL

@logchief Yes the discussion strayed from the OP topic however, if that keeps even one person from burning their home down or worse yet lives lost...I'd say going OT was well worth it. An ounce of prevention...

logchief

@NPHuskerFL, I'm in full agreement about fire safety aspects, was just commenting how threads move on.  I'm about to build a table this winter and appreciate the info, I'll take into consideration.

NPHuskerFL

@logchief What material are you using? Wood or Metal?  The fact is a LOT of dealers still simply showcase an egg in a table atop a stone with no table nest, no air gap etc. Why?  My guess is they don't know any better and pass this lack of knowledge on to the consumer.  My dealer has their display models with a nest and stone now (some with nest only).  I'd always recommend this to future BGE owners when I was doing demos. The forum gives new owners invaluable info...Sometimes.

logchief

I'm doing wood with a nest, stone and an air gap, especially after this thread.  Thanks for the advice