BGE merchant scam alert (Outdoors Three65)

Chubbs

johnkitchens said:

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Chubbs said:

OP is talking about this piece of ****. And his own assessment of spot on. Probably the worst grid on the market. Especially when you look at price. Again, I will send it to anyone who wants it if I haven't already thrown away

Not to hijack this thread, but is there a new little @Chubbs yet? 

Oh yeah. He is kicking it with me right now. 

theyolksonyou

@Chubbs he looks nothing like your profile pic.  

congrats man

johnkitchens

He is a cute little fellow. I know you are proud @Chubbs. A future egghead for sure. 

Jeepster47

Congrats on the addition.

Doglips

Aussie said:

Hardly qualifies as a scam. Very poor business practices, yes.
Having said that , isn't it great when you can reverse the transaction when you pay by card.

Well, either he has the merchandise and refuses to ship it after charging you, or doesn't have it and is pulling a scam.  Either way, the customer is ripped off for the same amount. 

And technically I still haven't gotten my money back.  The CC company still has to contact Bilsky.  If they contact him and he gives up some phoney documentation that he shipped it then I will not get reimbursed.  I could definitely use the real owners email address if anyone has it.

Eggcelsior

PM sent

NPHuskerFL

I have one of these and I did get it to work but, after 2 uses it sits....somewhere unknown (much rather use my homemade raised grid). Maybe I'll sucker punch somebody with it during the rub/sauce exchange  
Hopefully they have the LBGE too. 

johnkitchens

NPHuskerFL said:

Maybe I'll sucker punch somebody with it during the rub/sauce exchange  

That would be kind of like getting this for Christmas.

Doglips

I was able to contact the owner and apparently it's an employee problem that he intends to fix immediately.  He said he was sending me the item free, although I certainly don't think I'm owed that. 

bbqlearner

That employee problem has been going on long enough then 

SmokeyPitt

As mentioned earlier I think we are talking about 2 different extenders. 

The extender in question is this one:


You use it with a second (smaller) grid and it makes a swing rack. 

SoCalTim

lol ... I almost bought the extender. Almost.

Eggcelsior

OP, were you able to reach Jeff?

johnkitchens

Doglips said:

I was able to contact the owner and apparently it's an employee problem that he intends to fix immediately.  He said he was sending me the item free, although I certainly don't think I'm owed that. 

I am betting the employee is a family member. How many times have we all seen a family business have a dud of an employee make mistake after mistake, but yet somehow they keep hanging on? 

Egghead_Daron

johnkitchens said:

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NPHuskerFL said:

Maybe I'll sucker punch somebody with it during the rub/sauce exchange  

That would be kind of like getting this for Christmas.

I would be so excited to get that for Christmas! That is fantastic.

Off the OP but I am a big fan of Tom at CGS too.

Terrebandit

I bought one in the group buy. If anyone wants it, send me a PM.   I have an AR now, so it's not needed. Brand new. 

Doglips

Eggcelsior said:

OP, were you able to reach Jeff?

Yep it was Jeff.  He was very apologetic and showed concern that this was the second time an issue has come up with Bilsky.    I pointed out that the only reason I was able to contact him at all was through a forum member from here.  Bilsky is the only contact on their website so he could be ripping off lots of people and the owner would never know and no way for the customer to make a complaint.

Doglips

Talked to Jeff again today (owner).  Apparently Bilsky is supposed to be a distributor he hired to handle Outdoor Three65.  But between my complaints and another incident mentioned on this thread, Bilsky will no longer be employed with his company.  Jeff is a standup guy and was very concerned on how his business was being handled.

It turns out the group buy you guys did awhile back was through Jeff, not through the new guy Bilsky.

Eggcelsior

Doglips said:

Talked to Jeff again today (owner).  Apparently Bilsky is supposed to be a distributor he hired to handle Outdoor Three65.  But between my complaints and another incident mentioned on this thread, Bilsky will no longer be employed with his company.  Jeff is a standup guy and was very concerned on how his business was being handled.

It turns out the group buy you guys did awhile back was through Jeff, not through the new guy Bilsky.

Yep! That's why I recommended contacting him. He was a great guy to work with on that endeavor.