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Frozen "Cryovacked" Butt Cook Help

danv23
danv23 Posts: 956
edited March 2015 in Pork
Last Kroger sale I bought a few packs of double butt cryovacked packs.  I'd like some help on cooking them from frozen if anyone has done that.  I'm big on instruction, so if you could please be descriptive if you've done this before with tips I'd sure appreciate it!  I'd also like to know if it is easy or difficult to trim the fat off from frozen.  I normally cut it all off from fresh.  Thanks!

The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

Cumming, GA

Eggs - XL, L, Small

Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

Comments

  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,185
    it's been done, you may have to google for the thread though.  I can't recall if it was a turbo or L&S, but I would think L&S would be easier for a frozen butt.

    I wouldn't worry about trimming any fat until after the cook - especially if you're doing L&S, lots will render off.  if you pull it, you can just separate the fat then.
    Love you bro!
  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    Legume said:
    it's been done, you may have to google for the thread though.  I can't recall if it was a turbo or L&S, but I would think L&S would be easier for a frozen butt.

    I wouldn't worry about trimming any fat until after the cook - especially if you're doing L&S, lots will render off.  if you pull it, you can just separate the fat then.
    Thanks man.  As far as the fat goes, I hate to lose the bark #1, and #2, whenever I left the fat on I always thought the meat came our greasy. 

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    I haven't tried this, but I would imagine it would be hard to apply rub to a frozen butt.  I'm not sure how hard it would be to trim frozen.  I have found that when cutting frozen meat a serrated blade works better so you can saw at it.   This is what I would do:
    -Light the egg
    -Remove butts from cryo and try to trim off the fat...if it is a big pain then wait. 
    -When the egg is stable, put the butts on nekked (no rub)
    -Cook until it has defrosted a bit on the outside (guessing about an hour). 
    -Remove the butts one at a time and trim fat (if needed), rub, then back on the egg and cook until finished.  


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

  • DaveRichardson
    DaveRichardson Posts: 2,324
    I've done it many times. You can use a good knife to trim the fat as much as you can. If you can thaw a little in the fridge, the fat will trim easier. 

    I I went at 250-275 and it took a while to get running. Going onto the egg, internal temp taken with an iGrill mini was something like 20 degrees. 

    Smoked er with pecan and it was one of the best I've had. I also used olive oil instead of mustard for a binder just for an trial and it was good. 

    LBGE #19 from North GA Eggfest, 2014

    Stockbridge, GA - just south of Atlanta where we are covered up in Zombies!  #TheWalkingDead films practically next door!

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    I've done it many times. You can use a good knife to trim the fat as much as you can. If you can thaw a little in the fridge, the fat will trim easier. 

    I I went at 250-275 and it took a while to get running. Going onto the egg, internal temp taken with an iGrill mini was something like 20 degrees. 

    Smoked er with pecan and it was one of the best I've had. I also used olive oil instead of mustard for a binder just for an trial and it was good. 
    Nice tip on the olive oil.  I'll give it a shot.

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    I've done a few. Like them better done from frozen. Take the plastic off and let the exterior defrost a bit, just enough so it holds the seasoning, and fire away. The fat will come off when it's cooked. I've found about four extra hours than defrosted on a ten pound butt.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    They be on......



    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    Looking good!  Did you just let them defost on the counter a little while so you could rub and trim them?  After reading the other posts that seems like a much simpler approach than my previous suggestion ;)


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    Nah.  I unwrapped them, rinsed them, cut a little fat off, grapeseed oil, rub, on.  We'll see and I'll update.

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • MelSharples
    MelSharples Posts: 260
    The good thing is that boston butts are pretty forgiving so you should have a delicious meal no matter what!
    LBGE 2015 - Atlanta
  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    It has been 4 hours and the bbq guru has kept 230 degrees the entire time.  Just stuck the food probe in without any problem to find them both at 35 degrees.

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • Scottborasjr
    Scottborasjr Posts: 3,494
    Well now that they are thawed you can really start cooking. Looking forward to the results.
    I raise my kids, cook and golf.  When work gets in the way I'm pissed, I'm pissed off 48 weeks a year.
    Inbetween Iowa and Colorado, not close to anything remotely entertaining outside of football season. 
  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    edited March 2015
    19 hours in at 230 degrees.  Butts, which were each 9.88 lbs, are sitting at 177 degrees.  Forgot to say I used Hickory and Pecan chunks, about 5 of each, in the lump.  I just kicked the guru up to 245 degrees.  They look beautiful, don't they?  Also note the fire, although I lit one on the left and one on the right, was predominantly on the right yesterday and has moved to the left.  Mysteries of the egg.



    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • DaveRichardson
    DaveRichardson Posts: 2,324
    Looking good!  Try this sometime....  Instead of mustard as a binder, I've also used cheapo honey mustard from Walmart on ribs and the honey gave a sweet taste under the rub!

    LBGE #19 from North GA Eggfest, 2014

    Stockbridge, GA - just south of Atlanta where we are covered up in Zombies!  #TheWalkingDead films practically next door!

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    Looking good!  Try this sometime....  Instead of mustard as a binder, I've also used cheapo honey mustard from Walmart on ribs and the honey gave a sweet taste under the rub!
    My go to mustard has always been Kroger spicy brown. Great stuff and cheap!  I'll say that these appear more wet on the exterior than cooling fresh.  Oh, one more thing, I put apple cider vinegar in the drip pan. 

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • MaskedMarvel
    MaskedMarvel Posts: 3,203
    Frozen solid is my go to cook.

    use a bit of oil not mustard to get the rub to stick - mustard freezes too quickly. 


    Cook as normal. 




    Yours yours look fantastic!

    Large BGE and Medium BGE
    36" Blackstone - Greensboro!


  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    Pulled at 192 internal @ 4:20pm.  The wife invited people over so i did kick up the temp to 275 for a few hours.  Total cook time 26 hours.  About 1/2 the lump left.  God dam I will miss OO.  I digress.  Gonna let them rest for an hour then it's pullin time.  I'll give the final update then.

    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    I used to fall into the pressure of running around town trying to find the right weight, color, price, etc.  It's dam good to know that I can load up during a sale, freeze 'em, and cook 'em from frozen.  They were amazing and i dont see why I'd ever have to cook from fresh.


    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner

  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 956
    Full firebox after a 26 hour cook.  I filled it up to the top of the fire ring to start.  The power of Ozark Oak.  



    The DudeThis is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter SobchakNihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Blaze 5 Burner