My new Kamado Joe is going back...

plumbfir01

I posted a thread here ( http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1163411/new-addition-to-the-komodo-family#latest ) with my new JR and started noticing a few issues but nothing major. A small chip in dome, missing accessories from factory, and the gasket was almost done after only a few cooks.. But the major was  No screen on the draft door and I had a minor mishap because of it the other night. I spoke with KJ and they said since no one else had contacted them about the screen issue, they wont do anything about it. Well they first said my issue of sparks coming out draft door was because I dont use the KJ Lump.. I just laughed about that excuse. They then said I can return it to my dealer, so i contacted Thegardengates.com and they will be sending out a freight truck (R&L Carriers) back to my house to pick up the kjj. I guess i could have sold it for cash since i have not activated the warranty yet, but its not my issue anymore... So long KJ

Jeremiah

Sounds like general dissatisfaction. I'd return it as well. Hold out for the minimax!

plumbfir01

mountaindewbass said:

Bummer. So your returning it because it was missing the bottom draft door screen?

The fact that I kinda caught a bag of lump on fire because the draft door screen or lack of... Yeah main reason. Construction of my kjj is sub par to my egg. I have seen many kj that are very nice looking and clean with no imperfections in ceramic.... This one is not one

NPHuskerFL

Products are products whether it's KJ, BGE, etc. Quality of product is always important. But, most of all is excellent customer support and warranty support. BGE has that. Sounds like they (KJ) wanted to toy with you for awhile to get you frustrated in hopes you'd just give up and forget about it, put blame on lump etc. Poor customer support loses customers just as quick if not quicker than a poor product. I would send it back for FULL REFUND also.

FearlessTheEggNoob

Mine delivers today. If it is sub par on fit and finish I will send it back.

If it looks good to go, I can fix the no-screen deal no prob. Might even rob the side tables off my Vision Cub and customize it.

plumbfir01

It was more about the customer service. To tell me the kj lump will not spark...... They must have assumed it was my first kamado... Gasket is trash from day1 and many imperfections in the ceramic but I looked past it until the screen issue... I am pretty savy with my hands and can easily rig a screen......but it's not the point

FearlessTheEggNoob

plumbfir01 said:

It was more about the customer service. To tell me the kj lump will not spark...... They must have assumed it was my first kamado... Gasket is trash from day1 and many imperfections in the ceramic but I looked past it until the screen issue... I am pretty savy with my hands and can easily rig a screen......but it's not the point

#1 That's a dumb answer. Even if their lump has honestly always been spark free in their actual use, people will use whatever brand they can readily find. They will need to mod this Jr or the word of mouth will harm their brand.

#2 Is the one that will kill it for me. Mine better be as nice as the one on their webpage.

The Mini-max is too short IMO. A deflector looks like it would encroach on the firebox capacity too much to allow enough lump for a long smoke.

SkinnyV

Gasket was done on my mini within a few cooks just the same. I never use the screen on the mini, just the door.

plumbfir01

SkinnyV said:

Gasket was done on my mini within a few cooks just the same. I never use the screen on the mini, just the door.

im getting tons of sparks throughout the cooks... you?

grege345

I thought I saw somewhere that it has a ash box thingy inside the bottom vent that has a screen on it. Does it have this or am I crazy?

SkinnyV

plumbfir01 said:

SkinnyV said:

Gasket was done on my mini within a few cooks just the same. I never use the screen on the mini, just the door.

im getting tons of sparks throughout the cooks... you?

Nah, not on the mini. I'm on concrete too so no worries if a spark came here or there. i dont use the screen on my large unless im going for 200 degrees.

plumbfir01

grege345 said:

I thought I saw somewhere that it has a ash box thingy inside the bottom vent that has a screen on it. Does it have this or am I crazy?

the bigger ones do..

Guys am i being ridiculous here asking too much? Should i just suck it up and deal with it or fix it myself?

grege345

That's totally up to you. I've been wantin one for a few months (waitin on mini max release date). Personally screen wouldn't be a deal breaker. I'd just buy an aftermarket one that they sell. I look t it like this. I have upgraded my grates, hi que grate, swing rack. Going to get a smoke ware cap and a new gasket. So I guess what I'm saying is its just another bolt on accessory. As for the chips in the ceramic, that would bother me. Did it happen during shipping? IMO I'd never get a ceramic cooker shipped but that's just me. I like to touch things before I buy

plumbfir01

Yeah it was from factory like that.. the Bigger chip is a chunk of the dome on the flat part and they covered it with the gasket... i got it shipped because noone has the locally and they had one in stock. and no tax plus free shipping plus 10% off.. so saved about $100

PNWFoodie

Ack! Mine is in transit right now! It says there is an "appointment delivery", so I assume they are going to take it out of the box in front of me? I'll make sure to check under the gasket...

Eggcelsior

plumbfir01 said:

grege345 said:

I thought I saw somewhere that it has a ash box thingy inside the bottom vent that has a screen on it. Does it have this or am I crazy?

the bigger ones do..

Guys am i being ridiculous here asking too much? Should i just suck it up and deal with it or fix it myself?

You're not. They are former eggers that decided that they could do better. Based on what I experienced and what you have, they aren't even close.

cortguitarman

I thought I saw a video on YouTube about the ash drawer with built in screen. The lump response is BS. All lump sparks to some degree. For me personally, without a screen, I wouldn't buy it. My home and family are too important to me to risk losing it all from a spark from a grill.

BYS1981

I personally use KJ lump and their lump occasionally sparks. LOL what a ridiculous answer they gave, their lump is good lump though. Comparable to WGWW.

jimreed777

my new KJ Jr. is great...no problems so far

NPHuskerFL

plumbfir01 said:

Yeah it was from factory like that.. the Bigger chip is a chunk of the dome on the flat part and they covered it with the gasket... i got it shipped because noone has the locally and they had one in stock. and no tax plus free shipping plus 10% off.. so saved about $100

Wow! They've got some stellar quality control at KJ. Do they sweep dirt under the rug too?

Eggcelsior

NPHuskerFL said:

plumbfir01 said:

Yeah it was from factory like that.. the Bigger chip is a chunk of the dome on the flat part and they covered it with the gasket... i got it shipped because noone has the locally and they had one in stock. and no tax plus free shipping plus 10% off.. so saved about $100

Wow! They've got some stellar quality control at KJ. Do they sweep dirt under the rug too?

They lie about stuff too. Smart business practice.

mmundy81

Odd that they gave you the run around. I have a KJ (as well as an XL egg, not trolling on this site), and my two experiences with their customer service have been great. I hope their quality is not suffering as their company grows.

mmundy81

Odd that they gave you the run around. I have a KJ (as well as an XL egg, not trolling on this site), and my two experiences with their customer service have been great. I hope their quality is not suffering as their company grows.

SkinnyV

I don't think KJ should be beat up over what maybe one customer service guy tried to pull.
The net can be damaging to a business.
The guy told you no one else has a screen, and has complained. You have some minor complaints IMO. They said they would take it back after you cooked on it, you should pack it up and return if it makes you happy.

plumbfir01

She....told me that the lump i use is what causes my sparking issue and to fix it, I need to buy KJ Lump... that was the crappy part. They seem to have good customer service and are working to fix issue but a bs line about lump was a pretty cheap shot to blow it off until they realized I wasnt a total noob. I still have no issues with KJ as long as they make it right. I think i got a bad egg if you will... it happens sometimes. 

Eggcelsior

What was her name? I wonder if it was the same person that lied to me. Did it start with "W"?

PNWFoodie

I was wondering if there had been any more issues with anyone else. Mine is scheduled for delivery on Friday and I want to know what to look for. Sandy

Lit

Mine is shipping today also I should have it in a day or 2. I can't wait. I am not worried the issues the OP had are no big deal. You see posts on here all the time about BGE chipping and domes not fitting etc. I do wish they had a ash door but I can go to the BGE retail store and they will give me one I'm sure. Also when I just sold my small BGE I had to search around for the ash door for it and I have never had an issue with sparks.

BuckeyeBob

I'm sure I missed another thread on this topic but why the rush to go KJ versus the Egg? Is it cost based or features or both? In my view. I made the decision to buy the Egg when I bought my Large and it has been the best decision I could have ever made. If and when I decide to buy another ceramic, I won't be shopping around. I will stick with the Egg where I know what I am getting and how to use it. With their performance, customer service, lifetime warranty and accessory choices, I personally would see no need to go anywhere else. Just my .02

henapple

I looked at the kj today while picking up some DP. It's a nice kamado. I do like the spring assembly better. The owner told me the mini was larger than the kj.. don't know if that's true.

Whaler

henapple said:

 The owner told me the mini was larger than the kj.. don't know if that's true.

Not true the KJ Jr has 13" grate the BGE Mini 9.5" grate.