Right - it's been a lively evening - reminds me of friends sitting around a campfire and giving each other crap. I'm glad to hear the Ozark Oak works well for you - I had seen a few posts that it wasn't as good for long cooks. I've still got a dozen bags in the garage. I got somewhat oversupplied one weekend when I saw HenApple was coming through town. I'm sure he's why Harps is dedicating more space to lump than it had been.