Big Green Egg - EGGhead Forum - The Ultimate Cooking Experience...
It’s almost Halloween and if you’re cooking on your EGG, you may end up with more people knocking on your door asking for pork chops than candy! In case you’re willing to share and want to please a crowd, we recommend warm Margherita Pizza, FGL’s Lemon Pepper Wings or our favorite, S’mores in a Cone!


If you missed the 17th Annual EGGtoberfest here are the highlights Click Here Fall is upon us, and it's a great time for getting out to one of the many #EGGfests around the country - see a list here

Question about the ceramics?

2»

Comments

  • dlk7dlk7 Posts: 982
    amhobbs said:
    Don't get me wrong. I am all for competition however when you copy a product right down to the dimples on the surface and just change the colour , they weren't at all into innovation but rather into stealing market share from the people that came up with the idea in the first place. That kind of crap bugs the hell out of me. I came up with an idea to raise funds for our barbershop group a few years ago. I sold advertising in our upcoming show program to the local merchants. After doing this for 2 years, someone else decided to use my idea for their community group. They couldn't come up with their own ideas? That ended that form of fundraising. The merchants did not want to support it any longer.

    Hinged grate, Locking cap, Better gasket, More versatile heat deflector. These are the changes and they have plenty of innovation look at the pro joe.
    Sounds like you better buy one fast before they are all gone!!!!  Go! Quick!! Now!!!

    Two XL BGEs - So Happy!!!!

    Waunakee, WI

  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 16,041
    for a few beans more i can sell you my version of an upgraded egg. temps up to 2000 c, can pressure cook your pastrami at 1500 psi in mere seconds, water cooled gasket can be replaced for cents on the dollar in less than a minute, quick fully locking closure with safety interlocking device to avoid flashbacks and opening under pressure

    image
  • thetrimthetrim Posts: 739
    BGE will no longer slice off your finger when you open the bottom vent
    =======================================
    XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12
    Tampa Bay, FL
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 11,554
    for a few beans more i can sell you my version of an upgraded egg. temps up to 2000 c, can pressure cook your pastrami at 1500 psi in mere seconds, water cooled gasket can be replaced for cents on the dollar in less than a minute, quick fully locking closure with safety interlocking device to avoid flashbacks and opening under pressure


    Looks like a bomb calorimeter.  You doing BTU testing on charcoal? 
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 16,041
    edited December 2012
    i never get to know the true use of some of these things, it was either to make replacement knee parts from  forging sinter alloy powders to shape, or a new type of hand-grenade made with heavey pellets lamenated between two layers of heavey foil.
    :))those were the stories i got anyways
    :))i hear my nuclear pastrami cooker is in china now
    :((
  • O.K You win! The Big Green Egg is also a knock-off. The patent that you so aptly pointed out to me was granted in 1964 to a Mr. Farhad Sazegar. Mr. Sazegar also ripped off the design from the Chinese who made these things during the Qin dynasty in 221 - 207 B.C. The shape was basically the same. In 1974, Ed Fisher opened up his first store front in Atlanta and sold kamado type cookers imported from Asia. These cookers would crumble and fall apart from over heating and exposure to the elements. By the time Mr. Sazegars patent had run out in 1978, the Big Green Egg company had researched and incorporated a ceramic that was originally developed by NASA. The Big Green Egg company at least was courteous enough to wait until the 1964 patent had run out before coming to market with their own. I can't say that I have ever heard of a Farhad Sazegar ceramic cooker. Have you??? Are you also sure that Ed Fisher  did not enter into some agreement with Mr. Sazegar to buy the patent or license the use of it??? HMMM??? Do you???
    Thanks for busting my chops Nola.    
    ^:)^
    Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... don't mind ... and those that mind... don't matter !
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 11,554
    It doesn't even come down to who ripped off who.  Many concepts originated before patent offices.  There are design and functional patents.  I'm dedicated to brands if they deliver, and I love the BGE brand.  But I'm not a teenage girl about buying anything just because of the branding. 

    I buy lots of tools, but I don't buy them because of the brand.  Most people that see all my Festool stuff have no idea what it is.  Isn't flashy looking but that stuff works better than anyone else's.  Build a better mouse trap and the pragmatic will line up to buy it (after building designer roads to your door). :D

    No hard feelings, I just like to blast holes though the forum now and then. Cause it's fun.
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • EggcelsiorEggcelsior Posts: 9,211
    edited December 2012
    amhobbs said:
    Don't get me wrong. I am all for competition however when you copy a product right down to the dimples on the surface and just change the colour , they weren't at all into innovation but rather into stealing market share from the people that came up with the idea in the first place. That kind of crap bugs the hell out of me. I came up with an idea to raise funds for our barbershop group a few years ago. I sold advertising in our upcoming show program to the local merchants. After doing this for 2 years, someone else decided to use my idea for their community group. They couldn't come up with their own ideas? That ended that form of fundraising. The merchants did not want to support it any longer.

    Hinged grate, Locking cap, Better gasket, More versatile heat deflector. These are the changes and they have plenty of innovation look at the pro joe.
    None of what you mention is innovative. They just copied other people's designs and and marketed it all in one product. The Pro Joe is an 8000 dollar Big Steel Keg. I am not criticizing them whatsoever. The made a "convenience package" Kamado cooker. One could take a BGE and buy a weber hinged grate, Grill Dome CI cap(or put felt around the BGE cap, like the KJ), Nomex or Rutland gasket and get a Woo from CGS and do the exact same thing(for much more money) that the KJ does.  

     I'm not "bashing" you, but you are starting to sound like you work for them. 
    ;)
  • Not sure that it is a stainless steel cooker. It may be a stainless wrapped ceramic cooker. One of the big name stainless bbq companies made one a few years back. It was a primo round with a stainless skin. It was a thing of beauty but it went for 4K

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 11,554

    Not sure that it is a stainless steel cooker. It may be a stainless wrapped ceramic cooker. One of the big name stainless bbq companies made one a few years back. It was a primo round with a stainless skin. It was a thing of beauty but it went for 4K
    Kamado Joe Pro - $7500.  I'm not sure if that was the same one Viking used to sell or not.
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • That's the name I couldn't remember...Viking. I'm pretty sure it was a Primo in there. There were only the two main players in ceramics when I saw it.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 11,554
    I think you're right.  It looked different.

    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • It doesn't even come down to who ripped off who.  Many concepts originated before patent offices.  There are design and functional patents.  I'm dedicated to brands if they deliver, and I love the BGE brand.  But I'm not a teenage girl about buying anything just because of the branding. 

    I buy lots of tools, but I don't buy them because of the brand.  Most people that see all my Festool stuff have no idea what it is.  Isn't flashy looking but that stuff works better than anyone else's.  Build a better mouse trap and the pragmatic will line up to buy it (after building designer roads to your door). :D

    No hard feelings, I just like to blast holes though the forum now and then. Cause it's fun.
    That's all that I was saying. The original (and let's face it, BGE is the original mass produced modern day ceramic cooker maker) is usually the best and all others that follow, are suckling on the rear udder so to speak. 
    No hard feelings here. I just hate when you make me do all that research. It interupted my drinking time. 
    :!!
    Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... don't mind ... and those that mind... don't matter !
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 11,554
    hahah - try a long sippy straw or some food safe hose - type and drink multi-task.
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • I tried that once and ended up spitting my drink all over the screen and keyboard due to one of your famous off the wall comments. I hate when that happens.
     type and drink multi-task.

    Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... don't mind ... and those that mind... don't matter !
  • FanOfFanboysFanOfFanboys Posts: 1,607
    edited December 2012
    @amhobbs enjoy your KJ. No doubt you'll be happy.
    Boom
  • KJ is likes Bobs by Skechers and BGE is like Toms
    Boom
  • Both are great grills!!   I own a medium egg, however I'll be purchasing a Big Joe in a few days. 
  • @amhobbs - I hope you'll find our forum is big enough for those with KJ if thats what you end up with. Please bear in mind many people here have significant money tied up in our Eggs. We are proud & love our Eggs and hope you understand not many want to hear that KJ is better. I'm just sayin'.

    ........................................................................................

    Flint, Michigan.  Named the most dangerous city in America by the F.B.I. three years running.

  • Nola, the "NASA" component in the ceramic is a product called cordorite.  It was a component that was used in making the heat shield tiles dor the shuttles.

    Ernie McClain

    Scottsbluff, Nebraska

    (in the extreme western panhandle of NE)

Sign In or Register to comment.