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Parchment Paper and pizza...explain this to me one more time

I know that this has probably been discussed to death, but I'm a little confused when it comes to using parchment paper, fresh dough and a pizza peel.  I'm frustrated with my dough sticking to the peel, and I've tried semolina flour and cornmeal.   I'm pretty sure that the solution is parchment paper, based on all the praise I've seen, but I wanted to be 100% sure of the process itself before I burn a bunch of paper and ruin a good pizza. Tell me if this is the right way:

- Put a piece of parchment paper directly on the pizza peel

- Roll out pizza dough to desired thickness, transfer to parchment paper

- trim around outside of pizza dough, leaving enough to grab later

- transfer everything to grill and heated pizza stone

- after several minutes, slide the parchment paper from underneath the crust

- continue to bake until crust is done

 

Is this right? Are there any variations?  I understand that the hotter the grill, the sooner I need to pull the paper out to avoid burning.  Do I need to put cornmeal or semolina on the parchment paper before I put the dough on it?

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but without pictures or videos to help, I don't have a lot of faith in my reading comprehension. 

LBGE since June 2012

Omaha, NE

Comments

  • Bingo. That's how I do it. Not a big fan of the cornmeal so went to parchment. After pulling the paper, no need for any cornmeal or semolina. Then just cooked to your preferred level of doneness.
  • jlsmjlsm Posts: 483
    You really don't need to pull the paper, but you should reposition your pizza about halfway through to compensate for high spots, so you might as well.
    Owner of a large and a beloved mini
    travisstrick
  • I just throw a little flour on the parchment and roll the dough right on it. I trim the parchment close to the pizza and throw it on the egg. Sometimes I'll pull the parchment but not at the expense of burned hand. I do them quite hot and never have had a problem
  • DonWWDonWW Posts: 203
    What is the heat tolerance of parchment?  I have been under the impression that it is around 400 or so, which is much lower than pizza temperature.
    XL BGE.  Dallas, Texas.
  • I do as you stated , pull after a few minutes, continue to cook until done. I have had the parchment discolor from leaving it a little too long !
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 6,040
    I've had the parchment paper burn and fuse to the bottom of the pizza.  Depends on how hot your pizza stone is.
    New Orleans - best food on the planet. Large BGE
  • I've never encountered any off flavours when it turns colour. I do try and pull it but if it doesn't come easy and I don't have tongs handy I just let it ride.
    travisstrick
  • I do as you stated , pull after a few minutes, continue to cook until done. I have had the parchment discolor from leaving it a little too long !
    +1.  On Pizza Night, we end up with a lot of discolored pieces of parchment.

    If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!

  • I'm in the no parchment camp (even though I have used it in the past and know you can make fine pies with it).  A couple of thoughts:  if your dough is sticking even with cornmeal and semolina, your dough may be to hydrated.  I use an wooden peel and minimal corn flour and have very little sticking even with an 80% hydration dough; second any barrier between the stone and the dough will prevent (even if minimally) the removal of moisture from the dough during cooking and may not let your dough cook fast enough if cooking at higher temps.

    If you are going to stick with parchment, it appears you have the process down.
  • RACRAC Posts: 311
    I got a Super Peel a few weeks ago and this thing really works great.

    Ricky

    Spring, TX

    jimreed777
  • I would suggest that instead of your step 2 where you transfer the rolled out dough to the parchment paper, that you roll out your dough directly on the parchment paper, IMHO.

  • I only flour my wooden peel and put the raw pizza straight onto the hot stone (no cornmeal).
    No need for parchment if you do the following.  
    1.) Have all ingredients cut up and ready to assemble.
    2.) Put ingredients on quickly.
    3.) Give the peel a little "shake" a few times when you're assembling your pizza so it won't stick.
    I've never had one stick doing it like this.

  • gerhardkgerhardk Posts: 567
    lensegg said:
    I would suggest that instead of your step 2 where you transfer the rolled out dough to the parchment paper, that you roll out your dough directly on the parchment paper, IMHO.
    I am a parchment user but I would not suggest rolling anything out on parchment, you would end up pushing the paper around your work surface but the dough would not get much action.  Having said that I don't use a rolling pin at all, take the dough ball push down in the middle working it to about 3/4 of  an inch of the perimeter, then pick it up to stretch it, when I have it thin enough I put it down on parchment covered peel.  Doing the dough this way leaves you a higher crust around the edge just like they do at your favourite pizza place.

    Gerhard
  • SaltySamSaltySam Posts: 111

    Thanks to everyone! I'll make sure to post pics on the next pizza night. 

    LBGE since June 2012

    Omaha, NE

  • @SaltySam, late to your post, but didn't see this tip. I trim the paper to the size of my stone, just put the stone on a piece of paper and draw a line around the outside, Trim the paper to be 1/2" less than the stone size, ensures no overhang. Put the paper on the peel. Roll, hand form or whatever the dough to be about the same size as the paper, transfer the dough to it, no flour/meal. 

    Legally, it's questionable; Morally, it's disgusting; Personally, I like it. 
  • gerhardk said:
    lensegg said:
    I would suggest that instead of your step 2 where you transfer the rolled out dough to the parchment paper, that you roll out your dough directly on the parchment paper, IMHO.
    I am a parchment user but I would not suggest rolling anything out on parchment, you would end up pushing the paper around your work surface but the dough would not get much action.  Having said that I don't use a rolling pin at all, take the dough ball push down in the middle working it to about 3/4 of  an inch of the perimeter, then pick it up to stretch it, when I have it thin enough I put it down on parchment covered peel.  Doing the dough this way leaves you a higher crust around the edge just like they do at your favourite pizza place.

    Gerhard
    I don't roll either, dunno how that came out
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