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Pizza Stone Shattered

KMO_Q
KMO_Q Posts: 150
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I have a pizza stone the we've used for 10 years in our oven. Recently I've been using it successfully on our large, except for last night (see pic).

I did not move the pieces so it actually blew apart. Grill temp was about 450F when I placed the pie on the stone. I had parchment paper under the handmade pie.

Any thoughts on what went wrong?

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Comments

  • Cpt'n Cook
    Cpt'n Cook Posts: 1,917
    It looks like it is sitting right on that metal grid. It might have been better to raise it off that grid a bit.
  • RGBHV
    RGBHV Posts: 1,318
    Fire hot - stone cold - kaboom!

    After 10 years, it was time for a new one!

    Michael
  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    I was planning on getting 50 years out of that stone :) . I also had the stone on when I began the fire.
  • RGBHV
    RGBHV Posts: 1,318
    50 years? You must have some Scottish blood in ya! Ha! Ha!

    I use my plate setter legs up, some copper pipe on the plate setter to elevate the pizza stone, I haven't had any problems.

    Michael
  • I recently had my stone break, it was fine for years in the oven and the Weber kettle. After 4 cooks on the Egg it was finished :laugh:
    Bought the BGE pizza stone and I am very happy with it.
  • bobbyb
    bobbyb Posts: 1,349
    Get a BGE stone. It will last.
  • pampered chef?

    most commercially available pizza stones are very thin, and aren't made of much. the BGE stones are made from the same (or similar) ceramics as the BGE itself.

    sorry it happened....

    mine broke too. lesson (painfully) learned.
  • That stone doesn't look too thick, so it probably just couldn't stand the intense heat from a direct fire. What brand was it? Pampered Chef stones are known to do this. Get a heavy stone like BGE sells. I doubt there is anything you can reasonably do to prevent a stone from busting if it just isn't made to take this kind of heat.
    The Naked Whiz
  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    Yes this was somewhat thin, but was supposed to be able to take the heat...I'll be getting a bge stone...thanks
  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    Thanks, I'll be getting a bge stone...this was purchased from a clayware shop in Western Illinois, but probably too thin...
  • I had a Pampered Chef that did that. It did fine for almost a year until I hit it with a burrito coated in butter. I guess the cold butter was just too much for it. Mine split perfectly right down the center.
  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    I think I'll glue the pieces together to see if I can get a few more years out of it ;) :laugh: ...
  • thebtls
    thebtls Posts: 2,300
    From here that looks like a pampered chef pizza stone and they just can't take the heat of a high temp BGE. Dozens on the forum have had the same experience.

    ...it just isn't worth messing around with anything other than a BGE Pizza Stone. I've accidentally spiked my pizza cooks to over 700 degrees even with no problems...that would have put the lump temp in the 1400 degree plus range or something like that...

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  • I did that to two of my wife's PC stones before I caught on (I thought the first cracked because I spilled some cool water on it while refilling a drip pan :( ).

    Remember, KMO, that even if your dome is 450*, below the stone can be much, much hotter. I've found the space below my stone completely white - like I had done a 1000* cleaning burn - after a long low-n-slow once. All that heat has to squeeze in the small gap between the fire ring and the stone, so it's quite hot below.
  • FlaPoolman
    FlaPoolman Posts: 11,677
    Get the BGE stone and keep the pieces for small indirect cooks alongside direct ones
  • RGBHV
    RGBHV Posts: 1,318
    That's the spirit !
  • I've got a PC really thin stone I use for pizzas. So far I've not had any problems. I go platesetter legs down, couple of firebricks, rack and then pizza stone. I think the key is to let it warm and cool very slowly. I also don't go much above 400. I'm sure it go at some point, then I'll get a BGE, but until then, this has seemed to work well for me...and I usually do at least 2-3 pizzas, one after the other when I cook them.

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  • a 250 dome temp merely means the pile of 1200+ degree charcoal is small. but it is still there. yeah, the dome might say 450, but the underside of of an indirect set-up can be much much hotter. looks like he had a platesetter in there, though.
  • h20egg
    h20egg Posts: 168
    There may be some ceramics engineers out there who might dispute this thought. I don't think a given ceramic is more or less tolerant of high heat. It's really the ability to withstand differentials of temperatures; it's the cooling and heating that's hard on the stone or any ceramic. I've worked for 35 years with incinerators, and it's pretty much a rule in the business that the life of the refractory firebrick is determined by the number of times you cool the unit off and how patient the staff is in cooling it or bringing it back up. I have a BGE stone and it seems pretty robust, thick. However, I'd still be very hesitant to plop anything on it with a lot of moisture. I'd avoid the direct heat (use a PS, but it appears they're same material?) and don't throw a cold stone on a hot fire direct. I don't know if these ceramics will take moisture, but I'd also never let it sit out in the rain; any moisture, no matter how little, that gets in will want out...fast!
  • I think the big problem with the PC stones comes when you use them as a heat shield on a spider. They get very close to the coals then, and the temp difference between bottom and top can be huge.
  • It's refractory ceramics. All ceramics aren't the same.

    There's little or no risk of thermal shock with the BGE ceramics

    Pyrex ( old TRUE Pyrex) is actually clear ceramic and engineered specifically to be thermally shcok resistant

    in fact, glass stove tops are ceramic, and there is no issue with thermal shock. They are designed to withstand high heat and then the sudden shock of water from a boil over
  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    Thanks for the comments. Just got home with my new bge stone...I'm gonna try it out Labor Day :)

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  • KMO_Q
    KMO_Q Posts: 150
    Good idea, I'll keep the large piece for indirect...
  • I have an "Old Stone" brand 16-Inch Round Oven Pizza Stone that I ordered from Amazon.

    I'm very satisfied with it. It's held up well, and hasn't cracked (yet) :P
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