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25 lb pork shoulder roast
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XLegglover wrote:XLegglover wrote:
I have a feeling that the butchers around here are a little squewed in thier terminalogy. Can someone comment on what they think this looks like to them. They have labled two packages for me and two for a friend "pork shoulder roast" which they said is supposed to be the "butt". I am not a butcher, but this does not look like what I think it should!! It looks more like a big stack of pork chops.
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It DAYUM sure ain't a whole pork shoulder.Looks like a bone in pork loin. :S
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talk about feeling let down by a butcher!! I had hopes of a pork butt this weekend, this changes everything,, sorry for the confusion folks, but this egger is going to have a chat with meat locker on friday. Looks like I have 25lbs of a pork loin with the bone in. I just took it out of the fridge and now it is thawed,, looking really close at it,, bone in loin. I apologize to the gentleman who called it earlier!!
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Oops, I didn't ralize it was a clickable thumbnail. I looked at both pictures in your photobucket, and I still say that is a pork loin. I've cooked hundreds of shoulders and those are rib bones I see....

Here is what the blade bone in the butt end of a shoulder looks like.
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XLegglover: Is the other end the 'lean' end? See if the other end looks more like loin, with less fat please? This can still be a low n slow cook...let us know what the other end looks like...photos are always best. Thanks!
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but it's still a nice chunk of pig


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Well that is a horse err pig of a different color. You will be just fine. Just a different cook and one I haven't done before. You will be alright have fun cooking and learn. That's what it's all about. Tim
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flapoolman,, what you have in your pic is what I have that they are calling the "pork shoulder roast" What is the peice you have in your tasty lookin pictures. I would take more pics tonight, but it is in a fridge in my shop and raining,, tommorow I can supply more pics, but what you have looks just like what I have, rib bones 6-8 inches down the back. compare my pic in a previous post to your cooked pic.
I think I do have a BONE IN PORK LOIN ROAST as described by several of you individuals who know your cuts better than I. Thanks for the schoolin' -

It's a collage I put together first in a photo program.... then uploaded it to Photobucket. I have a lot of them.Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery -
XLegglover: Yes, it is a bone in pork roast. Forgive me Pat, and XL for answering for Pat, but I know he has retired for the night.
The reason I asked about additional pics was to see how close to the shoulder they cut the roast. I suspect the other end is going to be far leaner, with much more loin meat apparent, and less cap.
You can still cook this low n slow with great results, but I do not recommend trying to get it to 'pulled pork' temps. The loin will be like sawdust imo.
This cook can be done at higher temps as well, all depends what result you want, but this is not going to be a 'pulled pork' kind of cook.
Cook to 137-140* TOPS, allow a good 20-30 minute rest under a LOOSE cover of foil, then slice into nice chops. (carryover cooking will bring it to the 145-148* range)
You can add some wood for smoke flavor if you want. Totally up to you. But again, not a pulled pork cut. You will love it anyways!

I frenched the bones...(cut and scraped away the overly fatty stuff) Ran a string of butchers twine between each bone, just so the meat couldn't pull away...
Onto 300* egg (you can go lower, or higher!)
Pulled this one at 135*...
After a nice long rest, cut into chops and plated.
You have a wonderful cut of pork there! Just not intended for pulled pork.
PS...I'd still like to see more pics to make sure we are on track here...25 lbs is HUGE! :blink: If it is a cut like pictured above, figure about 15-20 min per pound in the 350* range. Have fun with it, and that sure is one nice hunk of pig!!
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XLegglover wrote:
this is the peice of meat before rub
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XLegglover wrote:
after rub!!
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well after some close examination, there is a blade bone in this cut,I am not sure what the heck the butcher did, but it looks like a loin/roast/rib all in one piece. I am planning on doing 235-250 for at least 18 hrs. I checked the weight again tonight, 24.5 lbs!! if anyone has any hints on the cook time,, I would appreciate! I am not sure what is going to happen to what appears to be the loin end, but the other end of it looks more like a hunk of roast.
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XLegglover, First off I cook with an instant read thermapen. Now when I cook a big hunk of meat like what you have I would use my Maverick et-73 and place the meat probe in the center of the thickest part of the meat. Then I will cook with the dome closed and watch the et-73's meat probe temp go up to where I need to do my final check with my thermapen. So, if I knew what internal temp I wanted to cook my meat to I would do that and not necessarily cook to time.
About your hunk of meat. I have no experience in cooking that cut of pig. On one hand I want to treat it like a bone in loin and cook it like Little Chef tells you to and personally I think you should do just that after all she is the resident Chef. Now on the other hand this bone in loin cut appears to have the butt shoulder attached to it but i'm not a butcher nor a chef. I say wait for someone else to chime in with more experience than me. Tim -

Looking at your latest picture, you are right... the section of the loin we all were seeing in your earlier photos (which was the rib end, not the sirloin end) is attached to the shoulder butt. Take a look at my hog chart above.... You can see the blade bone in the butt end on the shoulder, and the arrangement of the rib bones along the loin to the rear of the shoulder. I'm guessing the red line must be in the vicinity of where the butcher cut it.
If it were me, I would break out my meat saw and straighten the situation out by cutting off the loin muscle and rib bones. You may not have that option, so keep in mind that because of your custom butchering job, you are cooking two different muscles that just happen to be attached.Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery -
2Fategghead, Little Chef,and thirdeye (nice pic of a pig might i add) and everyone else who offered there help, I say "Thank You my fellow eggers" I am going to try and cook it as one peice of lovable pork. I think thirdeye has nailed it with the loin still being attached to the butt. Can anyone think of a reason not to cook it as one peice? I am wondering about the loin getting done before the rest of hunk.
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That's what's going to happen. The loin meat will be ready in the high 140's or low 150's. The shoulder meat will me sliceable in the 180's and pullable in the high 190's or low 200's.Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery
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Not telling you what to do but, I'm thinking along the lines that I do not want an over cooked loin. Now with that said I would cut the loin off the shoulder before cooking. It is clearly two different cooks. Tim
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Or maybe carve some off for a sandwich during the cook....Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery
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Hello Everyone, I figured out that the loin is about 3-4 inches long and then turns into the roast. I am thinking about pulling off a peice when it is ready
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Here is the loin portion cooked to 150 took about 6 hours, the piece had a lot of fat running throughout it, looks to be the very beginning of the loin, ended up being about 8 inches long with the large end having a diameter of 6 inches and then tapering to a point. rest of the beast is still cooking! -
Alright, Good to hear. I hope you had a nice snack and left overs as well maybe. Now on to the main event! Wishing you very well. You have had quit a journey so far and I don't know about you but I have learned a little more about the wonderful pig. Tim
Can't wait to see the rest of this never ending twisting turning adventurous story.
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Hey you did not tell us how you liked the loin part of the cook. :huh:
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Sorry for the lack of BBQ courtesy. Once the meat was separated from the fat
it was delicious, there was enough "meat" out of that little chunk for 2 nonfat slices 3/8" thick, (the end that was large) and 3 nice sized sandwiches of meat that had been chunked after removing all the fat. Mix in some fresh crook neck summer squash and zuchini (had to be done in the house, grill is full!) and some hashbrowns, yummy. I will post pics of the meat in the morning. I am guessing it may be done by 8 am at the rate its going. Already at 165 avg. between two probes. -
sidenote to everyone,,, I am still using the BGE Lump Charcoal and this is my second bag that I am flat out pissed about. Majority of the bag is pieces 2x2x1/2. 3 bags ago and prior there were some nice sized chunks of lump char. My manager at work and a friend have echoed the same sentiment. Any comments on this? I thought the first bag was just a fluke, but not so. Again, it has been a learning experience and you all have been awesome! Thanks! Jason
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Jason that happens with all brands, I believe it has more to do with how they are handled. If they are being tossed around the warehouse or dealers you'll end up with small pieces. The last bag I bought of wicked good had 1/3 the size of marbles.
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