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Why mist with Apple juice/cidar vinager??

BigA
BigA Posts: 1,157
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I know there are a lot of folks out there that cook great ribs with and with out misting them with apple juice/cidar vinager. I am one that doesn't mist, but why mist, does it really keep the ribs moist? To me it would just dry up and not do anything. Just wanted to know what the real purpose is from those that do. I might have to give it a try. Thanks.

Comments

  • AZRP
    AZRP Posts: 10,116
    I do it for flavor, it won't make them any more moist. -RP
  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 1,157
    does it give it a bit more of a sweet taste?
  • Davekatz
    Davekatz Posts: 763
    I used to mist ribs, but don't know that it ever added much in terms of either moisture or flavor, so I stopped doing it.

    If I remember, I'll do it on longer butt cooks, because there I think there's a little chance of the food drying out.

    I baste/glaze a lot of my leaner meats and shorter cooks - like chicken breasts or pork chops.
    Food & Fire - The carnivorous ramblings of a gluten-free grill geek.
  • AZRP
    AZRP Posts: 10,116
    Just seems to melt the rub and give a bit of a tang, I don't do it if I'm going to sauce them. -RP
  • Richard Fl
    Richard Fl Posts: 8,297
    I usually use 1/3 each apple juice, apple cidar vinegar and water. When in a sweet mood I will use orange juice in place of the apple cider and when in an oriental one will use soy sauce instead of the apple juice. Some one years ago a seasoned Q'er told me that the vinegar helps break up the meat to make it more moist. I start to spritz my ribs after 3 hours and do so every 1/2 hour or so after. Works great on poultry also. Starting about 20 minutes into the cook.
    Here are some quail I stuffed and wrapped with bacon the other night. took 45 minutes and spritzed twice. Was not really necessary with the bacon, but am a creature of habit.


    http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90897
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    As I transitioned to the Egg, I learned that adding a lot of fluid wasn't necessary during longer cooks. On metal cookers, it seemed to be a necessity to mop as often as every 20 minutes. A neighbor of mine, who made pretty good ribs, kept a gallon jug of mop mix hanging next to the grill.

    With the Egg, it is indeed more about adding additional taste, and melting the rub into the meat.

    I do find that during some cooks, the surface of the ribs gets a dry, flat appearance. If I don't mist then, or, what I do more often, give the surface a light swipe with a basting brush, there are spots on the meat, just the top 32nd of an inch that get dry and papery.
  • thirdeye
    thirdeye Posts: 7,428
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    Spraying, spritzing, mopping, basting.... what ever you call it is one of those greatly debated techniques. Apple juice is very common, but there are countless recipes for mops. many are very simple. I'm an old baster and the quick answer i give to "why baste?" is:

    It adds flavor.

    It keeps the surface moist while the inside is cooking, this helps with the smoke ring.

    It helps with the color


    The long answers are:

    Flavor: Apple juice is sweet so it does add some sweetness. A vinegar/cayenne mop will add some zip, a salt and pepper mop adds two of the flavors we all like....

    Surface moisture: Even if you sprayed water on your barbecued meats you will keep the surface moist... but the theory here is to keep the surface of the meat moist while the fats are rendering out. Once your fats begin to rise to the surface a mop might wash them off, so some care is needed. Certain meats (goat and lamb are two that come to mind) don't produce a lot of fat on the surface so a little oil in your mop works a lot better. The rest of the story is that when wood burns, nitrogen combines with oxygen in the air to form nitrogen dioxide. Nitrogen dioxide is highly water-soluble and early in the cook, it's absorbed into the surface of the meat and forms nitrous acid. The nitrous acid travels inward and creates a colored smoke ring. So, you get a better smoke ring if your meat is moist early in the cook. (After it reaches 140°, ring formation stops)

    Color: No matter what I am barbecuing, color is important to me and I spend a little time on it. Mopping, brushing on some oil or butter at appropriate times definitely helps.

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    Happy Trails
    ~thirdeye~

    Barbecue is not rocket surgery
  • BurntRaw
    BurntRaw Posts: 565
    Exactly what thirdeye said PLUS it makes it look like I am so busy that I can't get my own beer..."need another one over here hon - got to stay on top of it."
  • thirdeye
    thirdeye Posts: 7,428
    Heheheee. "Go to the mall???" .... "Nah, I got some stuff on the pit, grab some ice on the way home will 'ya".
    Happy Trails
    ~thirdeye~

    Barbecue is not rocket surgery
  • Eggsakley
    Eggsakley Posts: 1,019
    Excellent info. Thanx.
  • Ripnem
    Ripnem Posts: 5,511
    I do it cause Car Wash Mike said to. B) Most would agree, his 'King of Ribs' reign will never fall. I've never done them without, so I'm not sure what it adds, but I feel that I have gotten to, what I believe, is Great Ribs and won't change a thing. I tried Mikes just over a year ago and that has been my goal. :)
  • Ripnem
    Ripnem Posts: 5,511
    My first good LOL of the day! Thanks :P
  • Very informative, thanks.
  • ibanda
    ibanda Posts: 553
    I never cooked ribs till Car Wash Mike taught me how. He said mist with Apple Juice/Apple Cider Vinegar so I do it that way!
    "Bacon tastes gooood, pork chops taste gooood." - Vincent Vega, Pulp Fiction
    Small and Large BGE in Oklahoma City.
  • thechief96
    thechief96 Posts: 1,908
    I learned a lot from that post...thanks
    Dave San Jose, CA The Duke of Loney
  • bubba tim
    bubba tim Posts: 3,216
    BigA, We all have our ways of cooking ribs. None are wrong, just different. Thirdeye has a great responce and gives you the science behind his ribs. It depends on the cut of ribs, how energetic I am, and If I payed hommage to the correct BBQ God that day. But when I spray with a mixture of 3/4 cranapple juice and 1/4 strained bbq sauce, I get shine, taste, and mosture.

    go to this link and scoll to the last rib pic. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

    http://www.bubbatim.com/Ribs.php
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