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Quick question about lump coal.
pitrpan
Posts: 16
Hi,
Me again!
Yes, I'm sure this question has been visited (and possibly re-visited) many times.
However, I am at work and on my way home I will be driving past my local BBQ store to purchase the coal, and will have no time to do much research.
Upon picking up my bge last week, I bought a bag of "Big Green Egg" branded coal.
The bag was of about 9kg (about 5lbs?), and it cost me something in the likes of $55.
I cooked the pork butt last week and used most of the bag (with my dad re-filling the egg midway through the cook..)
(yes.. I'll blame him..)
Anyway..
As you could imagine.. I don't really want to spend $55 for bge branded coal, if a similar product will do just fine..
So....
Is it worth the experiment, or is the big green egg brand really that much better than anything else out there?
I must admit.. I collected about three handfuls of ashes once I cleaned the egg after cooking.. I was rather impressed!
Me again!
Yes, I'm sure this question has been visited (and possibly re-visited) many times.
However, I am at work and on my way home I will be driving past my local BBQ store to purchase the coal, and will have no time to do much research.
Upon picking up my bge last week, I bought a bag of "Big Green Egg" branded coal.
The bag was of about 9kg (about 5lbs?), and it cost me something in the likes of $55.
I cooked the pork butt last week and used most of the bag (with my dad re-filling the egg midway through the cook..)
(yes.. I'll blame him..)
Anyway..
As you could imagine.. I don't really want to spend $55 for bge branded coal, if a similar product will do just fine..
So....
Is it worth the experiment, or is the big green egg brand really that much better than anything else out there?
I must admit.. I collected about three handfuls of ashes once I cleaned the egg after cooking.. I was rather impressed!
Comments
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BGE brand is the same as Royal Oak American. You can find quite a few lump reviews on the Whiz's site. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm
Where are you located? In southeast Louisiana 9 KG is closer to 20 LBS than it is 5 LB -
Well I don't know where your getting your charcoal from but I only pay about $8 for 18lbs of Royal Oak made in USA.
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$55 for a 9kg bag? Are you in North America? That bag should cost about half of that, at least in Canada. A 20lb bag of Royal Oak costs about $15 here and $17 for the same sized bag of Maple Leaf charcoal.
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In Australia.
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I will look for other branded choices labeled Royal Oak.. Hopefully I'll be able to keep costs down!
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You shouldn't have truly 'used' that much lump.
Sure, you should fill it well for a long cook like that, but you can reuse anything thats not ash. Next cook, stir the lump to drop the ash and light the leftover lump. I always tend to top it off with some new lump, but you don't always have to. -
pitrpan, I know you are from the land down under and here is what I suggest, get 100% natural lump charcoal at the lowest price and see how it works. Than post a call out to all the Ozzie's here on the forum and ask what they are using and where to get it. It's either that or get more BGE lump and call out the Ozzie's for some info. Good luck hunting lump in the land down under. Tim
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Hi, Pitr. No idea where you are exactly, but I just googled lump charcoal australia and found a number of hits that might be of interest. Here's one that talks about sources in Perth, Sydney and Brisbane (maybe others).
http://www.aussiebbq.info/wp/briquettes-or-charcoal-lump/
Good luck! Can't imagine spending $55 on a bag of lump! No matter how big!!
Oh, and say hey to Tinkerbell for me, will ya?
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Hey, thanks for the details!
Alas, I am unfortunately from Melbourne, Victoria, and the article doesn't seem to reference us at all!
Anyway.. The store from which I purchased the bge does carry different brands of lump charcoal, most which are much cheaper than the bge brand.
I shall be giving them a go and posting some thoughts.
Of course, having had used the bge lump just once, I can't really say I'll have much of a benchmark to compare against, but I'll give it my best shot.
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Still say there's little chance you used the entire bag of lump. How much was left?
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I didn't use the entire bag..
Though certainly more than half..
I'd say there's about 1/3 left in the bag..... -
I've checked a few other forums and most seem to recommend talking to a local "Charcoal Chicken" outlet and find out where they get there lump. They might even sell it to you.
Good luck. -
Unfortunately most (if not all) of the charcoal chicken places around the city don't actually use charcoal to cook their chickens!!
Bit of a contradiction, isn't it.
I haven't really thought about it until now!
At least in the city (where I'm at), charcoal chicken places cook their chooks in a gas grills, or rotisseries. -
Hi, good luck down under. I have the same problem magnified many times. I have a large BGE in Italy. Nobody even knows what lump coal is! The dealer does not carry the BGE stuff and gave me bricquettes. I am told I can make my own, but will have to study that one.
Any ideas. Andy -
Andy this is for you. I don't make my own lump nor did I read the nakedwiz write up on the subject but, I found something for you to research. Tim
How To Make Your Own Lump Charcoal
http://www.nakedwhiz.com/makinglump.htm -
pitrpan, I smoke butts at 250 f dome I think 125 c. I usually fill my fire box full of lump at least to the fire ring or even past the fire ring. I know that for a large egg it takes about 8 pounds of lump if there was none in there to begin with. So, with that said and if you have used your egg one time I'm guessing you have left over lump in your egg to cook with if you used the rain cap and closed the bottom damper to snuff the fire out when you finished cooking your butt. If you started with a 20 pound bag you could have better than half left in the bag. Same in the egg. You should have almost half the lump left unburned and you can stir the ash off that and relight it and cook with it several times over. I hope that is the case for you or close to it. Tim
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sigh.
HOW MUCH IS LEFT IN THE EGG?
you do not need to throw out the lump that is left in the egg. -
Thanks very much Tim. I have plenty of wood around and might try. The locals are telling me to make an underground fire! Could be fun as well. Take care. Andy
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Glad I could help.
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Just a few handfuls of ash..
If there was anything unburned, I certainly got rid of it..
I don't like the idea of cooking with used coal.
It could be an idiosyncrasy, I don't know.. -
pitrpan, It's fine with me if you don't like to cook with chunks of lump that was left over from a previous cook but, I want you to know most everyone here on the forum cook with lump that has been burned from a past cook. I'm not saying we reuse the tiny pieces but, we will stir the ash off the used lump and add some more to the top and away we cook. Tim
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Then you will find it very expensive to run that BGE.
The lump which is unburned is virtually the same as the brand new lump in a bag bin fact, it could be argued that it is better because the VOCs have all burned off already
there's no reason to throw it out. It is carbon in the bag, and leftover lump is the same carbon. Until it is ash, it's perfectly useable -
Whilst the properties of the carbon remain unchanged, will the flavor it produces alter?
If I'm cooking in direct heat, and fat (juices/flavors) drips down to the unburned charcoal, the next time I use it, the fat from the previous cook will start to burn, too.. As such, will influence the taste of the new meal..
That's my logic, anyway (which is often proved to be erroneous, so I'll be expecting something similar).. -
Very well could/would while cooking direct. Did you say what size egg you were able to get? Not that it matters too much, but there are options for many cooks.
Welcome, and stay tuned, Fosters ain't all that bad. -
hahaha....
We haven't had fosters in Australia in about 10 years.... (possibly since it started exporting!!)
I got a large egg. The only option available, really.. Although had the XL been available, I probably would have still picked the large; primarily due to its exuberant price.. -
The large seems to be the most versatile, many options. Hope that you are able to find some reasonably priced lump charcoal. Might be worth stocking up if you find a good deal. Sorry, it's late, after midnight and Summer here, perhaps noon and Winter there?
San Miguale Dark? -
I figured that'd be the reason why there aren't that many posts popping up!
It's Friday afternoon here; 3pm.
It is Winter, though only for two more weeks!
Can't wait for it to end.. though every year it appears as if though it goes on for longer and longer.. -
Thanks for clearing that up. Friday night is pizza night.
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every time you light the egg, you wait for the smoke to burn clear.
if you did a long indirect cook of pork butt, you likely didn't have any drippings into the fire anyway, but into your drip pan or whatever your indirect barriers was.
you are more likely to encounter drippings when having done something like chicken direct. lot of chicken fat dripping into the fire. still, the fact that it is direct, anda higher temp, means much of that type of fat burns off during the cook anyway. the next night, light the egg, and while it is getting to temp and clearing (anywhere from 20-30 minutes, while you prep the food), the fat will burn off.
although i have had some fat in the lump from the previous cook (or even lingring inside the egg surface simply from fatty smoke), i have never had that smell hang around during a SUBSEQUENT cook, causing it to taint the new food.
i'm wagering you never replaced the ceramic bricquettes that are included in a gas grill. they would have been covered in drippings too.
anyway, give it a try. i would wwager that you are among the very few (if there are any others) who throw out the unused lump. 99.99% of us top off the old lump with a little new, then stir to combine (a little) and to drop the older ash. and that's it.
give it a try, otherwise you will spend more on charcoal than you did for the egg.
your first story about using two-thirds of a bag reminded me of my first overnight. i too added most of the bag. i cooked a pork butt for about 18 or 19 hours. my buddy tossed on a brisket that finished cooking for another 8 hours. the next night i cooked a chicken, and following that, a pair of steaks (if i remember correctly) the following night.
i still had lump left, but did need to add a little more for the next cook.
no one throws out their unused lump.
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