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What to use? Remove backbone in Spatchcock Chicken
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Ohphs, yeah I was confused, sorry.
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i use a relatively cheap heavy-duty pair of drop-forged stainless poultry shears that come apart easily and go into the dishwasher.
they are exactly like these, only cost maybe 20 bucks. got them at williams sonoma i think. or crate and barrel
Kitchen Shears no plastic, no springs to break or get chicken-gunked, just a pair of frikkin shears
risk of damage to a 20 dollar pair of shears? : LOW
risk of damage to edge of an expensive chef's knife? : MED-HI -
Stike,
As an acquaintance who has spent most of my life working with edge tools of one sort or another, could I please convince you to hand wash those shears instead of putting them in the dishwasher. Friends don't let friends dishwash knives and shears. :P -
mine aren't the wusthof kind. looks exactly like them, though. wonder if they are the same maker.
i handwash all my knives, like a OCD knife-washing crazy person with OCD about washing knives , and who happens to be clinically crazy in re: knife washing and washing of cutlery, as well as w/r/t to proper care and washing of a knife ( :huh: ). but i admit those shears usually end up handle down in their own spot in the dishwasher utensil tray, so they don't clack around or get dinged.
seriously, though, i scrubbed the net tyring to remember where i got them. i swear it was a bin at williams sonoma, and that there were maybe 18 bucks, tops. -
those are nice, no laws against keeping those in the truck
:laugh: fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
i have a cleaver i now keep in my car. a guy who picked me up as a hitch hiker taught me that
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Yep! Like THESE
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Dang! And I thought you had discovered some new secret! Oh well.... :laugh:The Naked Whiz
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I’m sure this is a stupid question because you hear that advice all the time, but what exactly does a dish washer do that harms knifes?
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I went back and edited the post to state you can pop the BREAST bone out with your finger.
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Rich: Here's a link for you. Should have done this last night.
http://www.amazon.com/Messermeister-8-Inch-Take-Apart-Kitchen-Scissors/dp/B000VS6CAS
We purchased the kitchen 'scissors' ($15.90, though they weren't that price when I bought them!! :blink: ) They have been fantastic. Don't put in the dishwasher though. Treat them like your good knives, and they will last forever. -
Don't they teach you kids in school to credit the source when you copy and paste directly from the works of someone else?
http://www.chefschoice.com/tips_myth_all.html
jump down to question #20 -
Web sites generally do not hold copyright and therefore it is not strictly necessary. Anyway, this is a BBQ forum after all - it's important to know your audience i.e. most don't care so why bother?
cntrl-C /cntl-v exist for a reason. -
"Web sites generally do not hold copyright"
???
website content is copyrighted simply by being created. whether or not anyone can enforce it is another thing.
but lax enforcement doesn't mean the protection doesn't exist.
being on the web doesn't mean something is legally up for grabs.
that said, i don't think anyone is worried about copyright. i just think fidel is giving you grief because it could appear that you just copied/pasted in an effort to provide some authoritative answer, despite the fact it wasn't your own answer. probably a shared sentiment, sure. -
Copyright and general audience interests aside, I bother because it's the right thing to do.
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You're hired.
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Sure, perhaps I was using a broad brush. For the purposes that I used it for, that information was not copyrighted (nor would the original authors care I suspect).
You miss my intentions. It was simply to provide and answer (no one else provided an answer as you can see). If you would like to step in and answer the question, feel free. -
"Mr. Integrity"...strikes again!!
:woohoo:
I think... we... see...a pattern unfolding...yes?
Remember now Rod..."It's a good thing it was a large faceless Corperation"!!
Being deceptive and, (let's just say "a little slippery with the whole right and wrong concept")
...appears to be the norm for the Tweevester!!
:unsure:
We'll have to keep a closer eye from now on!!
It pays to know your subject!
EvansI spent most of my money on good bourbon, and bad women...the rest, I just wasted!! -
You guys are hilarious.
My blog on 'the personalities of BBQ'ers' has plenty of material. Good thing nothing on the BGE forum is copyrighted :unsure:.
I'm kidding of course. -
any written thing is copyrighted the minute it is written.
you do not need to add "copyrighted", or the copyright symbol, in order for something to be copyrighted.
like i said, though, i think rod's point had less to do with copyright, and was less concerned with your offending the original author, than it was simply this:
when you post something that isn't yours, it's generally accepted to point that out. if only so that people don't get the wrong impression of you. you'd generally prefer folks to understand that you aren't just copying your answers from elsewhere, right? -
Yea, that was kinda the point.
Gain some credibility by showing you have some integrity. Show that you actually have some knowledge gained from personal experience and aren't just a product of an educational system that teaches students to ingest facts, figures and dates only to regurgitate them on a predefined examination date and then forget the knowledge.
To avoid really stepping up on a soapbox I'll just say that it is my belief that the "copy and paste" mentality is the crux of a lot of problems these days. -
Again, I see your point but my intention was simply to provide an answer, not build up my BBQ-cred. I don't really buy into all that - hence my rejection of using a registered account most of the time. Base each of my posts on it's own merit and not how many posts I have.
Anyway, whether I copied it elsewhere or whether I read it 3 years ago and typed it up myself, I don't really see how it matters - at least to meet my intentions.
By the way, your 'ignore anon posters' is off. I wish my detractors would just turn that on. That is part of the reason I'm posting as unregistered for all but pictured posts (it's nice to be able to go back and edit a recipe if I make an error). It's my form of an olive branch. -
No...like Stike said,
"i just think fidel is giving you grief because it could appear that you just copied/pasted in an effort to provide some authoritative answer, despite the fact it wasn't your own answer. probably a shared sentiment, sure".
So, we figured them out by ourselves, (with Fidel and the Chef's Choice Website's help, of course)..,"giving credit where credit's due...lol!!!
:cheer:
The words don't lie, and your intentions have become, let's just say..."self evident"!
Your problem here is, you got caught!
"Truth's a ****"...ain't it!
I spent most of my money on good bourbon, and bad women...the rest, I just wasted!! -
See post i sent to st!ke.
By the way, I love your Fidel picture. You certainly have artistic talent. I'm kind of going out on a limb on that one, you could have drawn it for all I know.
If not, I think I just busted you for hypocrisy as I don't see any credit on your posts or your profile. If you did draw it, seriously, nice work.
To avoid really stepping up on a soapbox I'll just say that it is my belief that the holier than though hypocritical mentality is the crux of a lot of problems these days. (paraphrased pers. comm. Fidel, 2010)
If you did draw it I take the above all back. -
I'm not a 'detractor', much as you might want to be a victim. I honestly think it would be interesting to sit down, have a few beverages, maybe a nice cigar, and engage you in a few lively conversations.
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Actually, stike is the illustrator in our midst.
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Really? Nice work stike!
Reply to your previous post.
I agree. I even have a few cigars from the birth of my kid - don't really have an occasion to use them.
That's a crappy thing about these boards, people tend to take things too personally and interpret every post in the worst possible light. I make a point of reading your posts because I think many of the things you posts are well thought out and quite reasonable (we can agree to disagree on the global warming thing) :unsure: .
Also, you can appreciate a good burn
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I've been calling him a mocking bird for quite some time now..no personal experience so he repeats someone elses words..
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But I never claimed stike did that particular work. Induced extrapolation is a nasty thing.
Stike is much better that that.
And I never take stuff on this board personally. I can dish it out, but can take it just as well. It was a nice burn...credit where due and all that. -
Yeah, I thought that was a good one.

I appreciate your condor. You and stike are fun to spar with.
To be honest, for things like that, I probably won't reference them. I put it in the same category as photos you grab off the internet (next, you should point out that eenie meanie didn't reference the photo she just posted). Internet commons and all.
For things that I think are worth while, I do give credit. I believe on a few posts I gave stike credit for some things I've learned from him. I did, however, feel a bit cheated when I saw the 'oil on paper towl' lighting method on the bag of lump when I had been giving him credit the whole time...... :S
Hey, what are your thoughts on baking on the egg as far as temperature goes? When i have things raised indirect (AR with pizza stone) at a specified temperature they always take much longer than they would at the same temp in my oven.
What do you think: Poorly calibrated thermometer, lower heat microzone created by the pizza stone?
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