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Need quick help with trout

Dimple's Mom
Dimple's Mom Posts: 1,740
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I've got a trout, whole fish with skin, has been cleaned and dressed, whatever dressed means. How do we grill it? The egg is ready and waiting!

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  • cookn biker
    cookn biker Posts: 13,407
    Got lemons? How about a plank? If not put that, or those, in a cast iron and fry em up with whatever seasonings you all like. Very tasty!!
    Molly
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  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    Layer of sliced lemons and onions on the grill,lay fish on top.300 raised direct til done..Use the thermapen to tell when to pull.YUMMEE! ;)
  • Hi
    Like Molly suggested the cedar plank is one of the best ways to cook fish on BGE. If you don't have that try making a tin foil boat with your seasoning in fish cavity and a little butter. If you cook direct, I would suggest no higher than 275-300 for about 2o minutes a side but depending on how much charcoal, etc. just check with thermometer till 160 in thickest part, will cook slightly more after removal. Good luck and post some photos when done
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997
  • Dimple's Mom
    Dimple's Mom Posts: 1,740
    We don't have any lemons. We may have some bottled lemon juice. We have onions. What temp is the fish when we pull it? So I slice the onions and put them direct on the grill? That may be a problem as they're from out garden so are not as large as store-bought onions and probably would fall thru the grate. Can I do it on tin foil?
  • Dimple's Mom
    Dimple's Mom Posts: 1,740
    Actually, we do have a lemon. Hopefully it's not moldy. So I'll do sliced lemons and onions on a tinfoil boat with butter and seasoning in the cavity. At 300 dome temp and will pull when thermapen says 160.

    Thanks!
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    Wrap in foil,leave it open on top for the smoke.Layer of onions,lemon juice,seasonings,pull when fish flakes easily with a forf.Best I can do.
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    It works for me.Sorry I'm such a slow typist.Trout is HARD to mess up. :)
  • FYI
    Dressed means cleaned, such as no guts etc.
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997
  • Little Chef
    Little Chef Posts: 4,725
    Dimples Mom.....160 is WAY too high! I pull my salmon about 118*. Dressed trout, a bit higher, but seriously, 130* at thickest part is the highest I would go!! :blink:
  • I would be worried to only go to 130 at Highest, I have checked numerous recipes over the years and here is a link for one that is average of most which is 145 temp http://whatscookingamerica.net/PanFriedTrout.htm
    I cook to 160 because I do not like slimy sticky fish, but flakey and moist. Cooking fish with skin on is why I sugest 160. 130 would be fine for salmon with only skin on one side etc. but you stated a Whole fish which is skin both sides and cavity. Cook to taste and you then decide.
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    RUCK-ROW!Interesting.
  • misfit
    misfit Posts: 358
    Yup, he may not know what can he is opening...
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    Kinder,gentler,LC! ;) :laugh: :whistle:
  • Little Chef
    Little Chef Posts: 4,725
    Grillin & Chillin: I do admit that I posted my temp advice before reading your post advising 160*, but even if I saw your post before, it would not have changed my reply. I have done a bit of cooking in my time. I tried to check your profile, but seems you don't really have one.
    Thanks for the link to the website. I checked a few of their recipes. I notice they said to cook fish to 145*, yet you said 160*. :blink: They also advise to cook pork chops to 155*, and pork loin to 150*. The harmful critter in pork, (though they have been essentially erradicated since the 70's) is trichinosis. Trich is killed at 137*. Though the FDA is still a few degrees off, all pork is safe to eat once it hits 137*. Above 150*, I would prefer a shoe lace so I can strap the chops to my feet. They'd be great shoes. Be mindful too, the FDA recommends temps counting on the fact that home cooks don't have accurate thermometers. They usually add about a 10-15* fudge factor. (poultry at 165*, I absolutely and completely agree with, though you may see recommendations as high as 180*)
    And I too, prefer flakey and moist fish. If your fish is "slimey and sticky", I would suggest you find a new fish monger. Unfortunately, IMHO, any fish at 160* would be bordering on "fish jerky".
    We also must consider "carryover cooking". No matter what meat we are dealing with, the internal temp will continue to climb after removal from the heat source. This usually gives us an extra climb of anywhere from 5*, 8*, and I have seen as many as 20* increase AFTER taking off the heat source. This of course is related to the size of the meat, and the temp we are cooking at. In this case, a dressed brook trout, cooked around 350* should climb an estimated 7*. So if pulled at 130*, it would actually be at about 137* at eating time. Not too far off from the over-estimated pull temp on that web site of 145* (and they never said 160*).
    I realize you are new here, and we all want to contribute and help. But sometimes...check a profile or two. You may find some interesting things. :) You may also want to find a new website that provides more accurate food temp info. (At least they weren't too far off with their lamb and beef recommended temps)
    Wish you the best, and happy eggin! Just be mindful people are listening to your advice. We must be sure it is good advice. ;) Take care.
  • Dimple's Mom
    Dimple's Mom Posts: 1,740
    We pulled it just a tad under 160. It was incredibly moist. I would not have eaten it had it been any moister. There were places I would not touch as it had a 'raw' look to me. So 160 on trout was perfect for us.
    Thanks to all for such great quick advice!

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  • Hi L.C.
    My "Newness” to this site has nothing to do with my experience cooking. If you have cooked a whole entire fish albeit trout or others with skin covering complete outside you may find a different taste than you prefer pulling fish at 130. Me personally living on the water and slow cooking with BGE's Weber Smokey Mountains etc. for over 25 years, my personal taste is to cook a whole fish to 160 and if I do cedar plank salmon which I do frequently, I pull off at 145. There is no law or exact perfect temperature for cooking anything that is why there are many varying temperatures by many recipes and individuals. I just was concerned with a person cooking a whole trout for first time pulling it off at 130 and not being happy. Please do not judge by "profiles" or if I am a "newbie" to this particular site as is it is definitely not a reflection of my experience cooking. Different Strokes for Different Folks......Different opinions as well.
    A few photos for your enjoyment.

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    Salmon cooked to 145
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    Cooked this monster to 155 as she was THICK....far from "jerky" and very moist!
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    These cook just buy eye, but another sample for your enjoyment (Maybe a "newbie" to the site but been Grillin & Chillin for over 25 years!)
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    8-10lb Boneless Turkey Breasts. Yum Yum! Been doing dozens every Christmas for my best clients for decades. Look closely there are 6 in the Bullitt on this one cook. About 55lbs!

    Never judge a book by it's cover ;)
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997
  • Hi D.M.
    So glad you enjoyed your dinner. Been eating rainbow trout since I was old enough to hold a cane pole and fishing with kernels of corn in the mountains. I have been cooking on BGE's, Weber Smokey Mountains, and other Komodo type cookers personally for over 25 years but was around it for over 40 years as learning from my GrandDaddy. Your photos look good and your right it could probably gone to a little higher temp as you have some nice fat trout there. I am drooling on my monitor! Keep Grilin & Chillin
    :)
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997
  • Little Chef
    Little Chef Posts: 4,725
    Grillin & Chillin...You are absolutely correct. Different strokes for different folks! Touche on this one. ;) It worked this time, for this customer. I will still stick with the temps I quoted. Been cooking fish and the rest for 35 years. I am not about to get into a pi$$ing match. Welcome to the forum, and help us out a bit by letting us know who you are in your profile. You have been a 'member' since yesterday?? We often have "kids", and/or "trolls" in here offering inexperienced advice...got to call it when I see it. I still will never cook a whole fish to 160*, period. To quote you, "different stokes for different folks". It worked this time,for this customer, nicely done. Now let us know a bit about you, since you have been egging for years, so this doesn't happen again in the future. ;)
    PS...I won't pull out my photo gallery like you did....you can see my posts by a simple search on the forum..
  • Hi Little Chef
    Responses like this and your very first to this thread is why I quit this forum years ago. It is a shame you are so defensive about other opinions and still in denial your advice would not have been appropriate for Dimple's Mom and her whole trout she cooked as she even indicated pulling fish off a little below 160 and it was still slightly raw. You say you will never cook trout to over the 130 you quoted; well you would be eating raw fish then as Dimples Mom and others can tell you. Check today’s post by Jemrx about "Test pics" cooking salmon and what temp he cooked till. Your first forum address directly to me does not seem like much of a "welcome" and your judgment of my cooking abilities based upon how long I have been on this forum and my profile which certainly is no reflection on my ability to cook. I have read this forum for years and never detected any "trolls" or "kids". :lol: You wanting to "know about me" will not prevent testy replies in the future to me or others if you judge people by what you may or not know about them.
    BGE'er since 1996 Large BGE 1996, Small BGE 1996, Mini BGE 1997