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Overnight Smoking

Jeff
Jeff Posts: 5
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Greetings - I got my Lg Egg last weekend and have grilled steaks and burgers which turned out very well. I LOVE THIS THING!

Anyway, I want to slow smoke a pork butt this weekend and unsure how to do an over night smoke (I'd like to go around 18 hrs). I don't want to stay up all night watching temp but don't want to wake up to a cold Egg and raw meat.

Any suggestions on how to keep a fire going low over night? Thanks.

Jeff

Comments

  • Morro Bay Rich
    Morro Bay Rich Posts: 2,227
    BBQ-Guru or Stoker are the only things that fit all your criteria.
  • BBQ-Guru or Stoker are the only things that fit all your criteria.

    False

    There are plenty of options. One is to get your egg holding stable at 250 for a good long time before you put your meat in; then having the fortitude to not adjust your vent settings, even though it looks like the temp is running cool. Get up once or twice during the night to check temps.

    Another is to get a Maverick ET-73 thermometer, which has a remote pager that will alarm if the dome temp gets too high or too low, and also will alarm when the meat is done. The advice on temperature setting from option number 1 still applies.

    Another option is to cook it at a higher temp, a la Myron Mixon. Some of the forum members here have taken his class, and can probably describe his method.
  • Morro Bay Rich
    Morro Bay Rich Posts: 2,227
    Ben,
    Remember, he did not want to get up during the night to check how things were going? :S
    Rich
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Review the Elder Ward method for doing pulled pork.

    www.nakedwhiz.com/elder.htm

    If you don't have a stoker, or a remote thermometer with alarm, I'd advise checking every 4 hours.

    Once you have a good steady fire with the dome at 250 for 5. to .75 hour, put the meat on. Check after an hour to see if the temp has returned to 250. If not, do a tiny adjustment and recheck after .5 hour. If steady, check once more, and if still steady (maybe a degree or so different) go to bed. The typical setting is the bottom vent open just a crack, likewise the daisy on top.

    Most often the mid-night checks will show little or no change. Seems like most problems happen about 7 - 8 hours in. By that time, ash may build up and slow the airflow, and/or the fire might have burnt down the center. Keep a straightened coat hanger at hand to remedy either problem.

    And, once in awhile, there are "turbo-butts," where the meat gets done really fast. Its not a disaster to find the meat cooked in time for breakfast. Wrapped and sitting in a "cooler" with jars of hot water, a butt pulled at 200 degrees internal will stay above 160 for 5 - 6 hours.
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Welcome, Jeff. You don't want to go 18 hours. You want to go until the internal temp is between 195-200*. Might be 18...but it might be 8!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Bacchus
    Bacchus Posts: 6,019
    Funny thing is, we hear stories of people having fires go out even "with" a guru or stoker.
    My advice is to stabilize the temp as Ben suggested. Another trick I have learned is...just before going to bed, open both the lower vent and daisy wheel VERY slightly. So if the temp does "move" it may well increase, which wouldnt be very much at all.
    You will prob want to get up once during the night to check it anyway.
    Good Luck!

    MB Rich, good to see you around.
  • Getting up every 4 hours (let's say twice during the night) is hardly "staying up all night", which is what he said he wanted to avoid.
  • Don't forget to calibrate your dome thermometer. Very important to do before a low 'n slow.
  • vidalia1
    vidalia1 Posts: 7,092
    You have email... :)
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    follow elderwards directions with a dome temp of 250 and get up 1 time during the night to check on things, about 4 to 5 hours after you last check on it. that way if things are going wrong you can fix it and the meat is still safe to eat. dont worry if the egg is holding at 200 or 275 degrees you can make an adjustment in the morning to speed things up or slow things down
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • good points.

    i go to bed normally around 12 or so. i'll check then, and hit the sack. if i am worried (like, if it is a cook for guests) i'll set the alarm once for maybe 4am.

    the fire is not going to go out the second my head hits the pillow. so even if the egg were somehow ice cold at 4am, i'm still safe.

    at 4am, i check temps and hit the sack. even if i laze in bed til 8 or so, it's the same thing, no worries even if the fire went out.

    i have had two fires go out in over maybe six years.

    the cost of lost pork has yet to justify a powered draft unit.

    i agree that there is "no better way" to manage temps than with a powered draft unit, but they are NOT necessary, and they do not guarantee your fire will stay lit, though they will work like hell trying to keep it so.
  • AZRP
    AZRP Posts: 10,116
    To further your point, the only fire I've ever had go out was while using my Guru, so there are no guarantees. -RP
  • Good luck Jeff, it well be a wonderful and learning experience

    Ross
  • rsmdale
    rsmdale Posts: 2,472
    Jeff ,I have done prbably 30 overnights and I do them without a guru or stoker.Take your time and stack your firebox,get the egg stable for an hour and you should be fine all night.


    GOOD EATS AND GOOD FRIENDS

    DALE
  • Morro Bay Rich
    Morro Bay Rich Posts: 2,227
    No matter what anyone says, I sleep thru the night.
  • Cactus Doug
    Cactus Doug Posts: 341
    I have never had overnight problems, but I never go to bed with the dome temp below 250 its usually 225 in the morning. Also I clean the egg out and take some care to put the larger lump on the bottom. Good luck.
  • llrickman
    llrickman Posts: 654
    I agree I think the key is to start with a clean egg.
    Take out the fire ring and fire box get all that ash out, Then as you are loading your lump take the largest pieces and start building with them from bottom up.

    This will help keep the air holes open as the fire burns.

    I have never got up and checked an overnight i sleep thru the night . I do have a maverick i keep at the bedside that shows me meat temp i doesn't have a pit probe just the meat probe and if i should wake up in the night i will glance at it and check my temp

    Dont be surprised at around 160-165 degrees it stays there or even drops for a few hours

    That is the plateau stage and its breaking down all that connective tissue making it ohhh so tender and juicy :)

    Good Luck im sure it will be delicious
    2 LBGE
    Digi Q
    green Thermapen
    AR

    Albuquerque, NM
  • Bacchus
    Bacchus Posts: 6,019
    I recently did a low/slo with the only cleaning being what I could dig out with the ash tool. The lump I used was from the bottom of a few different bags, as well as leftovers I had been collecting in a bucket. No piece was larger than a golfball. I just dumped and lit.
    It went overnight and didnt budge a single degree.
    I guess I was just lucky. :laugh:
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    No luckier than I was last week when I did pretty much the same thing on a 10 lb butt. Might have had some larger pieces - not sure cuz I didn't look. Doubt it though as I topped it off with the tail end of a bag of lump. Took about 30-40 minutes to stabilize and it stayed at 250 on the nose all day long. :)

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Davekatz
    Davekatz Posts: 763
    Ain't the BGE great? Glad you're enjoying yours.

    You can do overnights without s stoker. I find I have the best luck when I clean everything out and start with a new bag of charcoal (lump is like breakfast cereal, the big pieces tend to work their way to the top).

    I like to start around 6pm. Once the egg has been stable for a half hour or so, I load her up with butt, set my Maverick, and still have some good hours of daylight to make sure it's settled in at 250°F.

    I might get up once to check it, but usually I just peak at the Maverick if I wake up in the middle of the night.

    Good luck,

    Dave
    Food & Fire - The carnivorous ramblings of a gluten-free grill geek.
  • Jeff
    Jeff Posts: 5
    Great ideas, thanks to all who responded. I think I'm going to give it a shot, taking into account the advice given and see what happens.

    One last question, how much charcoal should I start with to last the night?
  • Davekatz
    Davekatz Posts: 763
    I go about a 1/3 of the way up the fire ring.
    Food & Fire - The carnivorous ramblings of a gluten-free grill geek.