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am i in over my head?

stones
stones Posts: 61
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
egg will be delivered this Friday. I am planning on doing a Mad Max Turkey on Thursday. I have no experience with the egg. Did i bite off too much for a first
cook?

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  • Knauf
    Knauf Posts: 337
    It's pretty tricky keeping temps at first. If you practice with several cooks over the weekend and early next week you should be able to pull it off. Good luck.
  • skihorn
    skihorn Posts: 600
    Do at least several practices. You don't even have to have food to practice. Just light and adjust. You can even put a pan of water on the grill to see how that affects things. Definitely practice with the platesetter.

    Finally, plan on watching the real cook carefully and often. Down the road you'll feel comfortable knowing when your fire is stable and can leave it for hours unattended. But don't try that this early in the learning process.

    Actually a turkey is fairly forgiving since there is no magic temperature for cooking. Make sure you have a remote temp probe to monitor the temp of the bird. With that in hand and monitoring the Egg temp you should do fine.

    Good luck and welcome aboard!

    EDIT: Of course, also watch the video/DVD that comes with it. That tells you everything you need to know before practicing.

    Freddie
    League City, TX
  • Bacchus
    Bacchus Posts: 6,019
    Hey Stones, I was just asking about you the other day. What size did you end up ordering?
    And dont practice with a tub of water for cryin out loud(sorry Freddie) practice with burgers, brats, ribs, etc.
  • go buy a whole roaster chicken and practice with that... . and do a cold test fit like i say in my method....work on your temp control. . .you should be ok. . ..
  • Hey stones:

    Freddie indicates that you should watch the real cook carefully and often...

    Good advice, just don't lift the dome too often to peak as that could result in temp fluctuations. Being new to the game, you don't want to be fiddling with vents, etc. trying to over correct temp when it might not be necessary.

    In my opinion if the temp on your dome is stable and the temp on your remote is progressing nicely, you can check your bird through the daisy wheel and / or while you're basting ala Mad Max.

    Good luck!

    Michael
  • I like Max's advice about practicing with a chicken. You don't have to go all-out with gravy and everything, just try roasting the bird.

    One thing I haven't seen mentioned, but which tripped me up on my first cook: once you light the egg, you MUST let the lump burn for a bit before you put any meat on the egg. There are volatile compounds in the lump that smell and taste terrible. Bring your egg up to temperature, and then let it hold there until the smoke doesn't smell like a burning tire.

    Be aware that when lighting the egg, it may hold at a low temp (300ish) for a while, and then begin to climb rapidly. I've seen it hold below 300 for 15 minutes, and when I turn my back for 5 mins it's up above 700. I think this also has to do with the burning off of the volatiles that occurs when you first light new lump. So keep an eye on the temps when you're lighting. It's always easier to let the temp get within 50 degrees of your desired temp, and then start shutting the vents, bringing the egg up to temp slowly. If you overshoot, it will take time for the fire and the egg to cool to the temp you want.
  • oh, and check the calibration on your thermometer as soon as you get it.
  • skihorn
    skihorn Posts: 600
    Bachus: I agree. Much better to practice with food. I was only saying don't let the lack the of food stop you. I wouldn't ordinarily suggest that but he is trying to cram as much practice in as short a time as possible.

    Freddie
    League City, TX
  • skihorn
    skihorn Posts: 600
    Thanks for clarifying Michael. When I said check often I meant keep an eye on your temps. You should very rarely have to lift the dome. I never lift the dome until I think it is done. I then double check with my thermapen and only rarely do I cook any longer.

    Freddie
    League City, TX
  • reelgem
    reelgem Posts: 4,256
    I was having trouble with temps and I read a post from "Grandpas Grub" on vent settings. It's really helpful. Just do a search under his posts. He's got pics on how where the vent setting should be.
    Welcome to the forum and good luck with your turkey. I know Mad Max is available for questions if you have any problems. He's the turkey eggspert. :)
  • Firetruck
    Firetruck Posts: 2,679
    Stones,
    You can do it!! Since you are not really familiar with the egg, temp control is your biggest obsticle.
    1. Fill the lump to the fire ring scattering smoking wood chunks throughout the lump.
    2. Light it in 4 or 5 different places on top.
    3. Once you know it is lit shut the dome and leave the bottom and top vent fully open.
    4. When the dome temp gets to around 250, close the bottom down to about 1/2 to 1 inch and slide the daisy wheel over leaving it about 1/4 inch and the spinner fully open.
    5. Monitor the temp every 5-10 minutes. As the temp rises make small adjustments to the bottom and top vents to stabilize where you want it.

    If you are going to use a platesetter (I assume you are), put it in just after lighting the lump so it will come up to temp with the egg. Otherwise you will be trying to drive the temps and be very frustrated.

    The main thing to remember is take each step slow. Trying to rush the egg is very bad juju :huh: You don't want to make it mad :laugh:

    Good luck,
  • 2Fategghead
    2Fategghead Posts: 9,624
    stones, Welcome to the forum. I know you have been around here almost a month and I'm glade you are getting your BGE soon.

    Like reelgem was saying Grandpas Grub has put together some very important links to answer a lot of questions you may develop over time. When you get around to it check this out.

    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=746787&catid=1

    Here is the Visual Guide to Vent Settings & Temperatures by Grandpas Grub

    I'm not sure what size BGE you settled with so use this info as a guide and not written in stone. enjoy,Tim

    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=718915&catid=1
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,570
    if it were me i would cook a small turkey saterday, not only will you get some good experience for the big cook, you will have your gravey ready for tday, one less thing to do on tday if your the type that panics on the big cook. ;) two things, wait for the smoke to burn clean before the bird goes on, and i wouldnt use any smokeing wood on your first cook or maybe go really light with it
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • 2Fategghead
    2Fategghead Posts: 9,624
    stones, If I may state a couple more things.

    When you get your BGE set up at your house make sure the fire box is lined up with the bottom vent opening.

    If when you look in through your bottom vent hole it looks like this.

    000_1155.jpg

    Change it to look like this.

    000_1154.jpg

    Like Boilermaker said calabrate your dome thermetere. Here is that link.

    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=88
  • stones
    stones Posts: 61
    hey,

    after listening to all the guys and gals here i went with a large. it comes tomorrow!
  • stones
    stones Posts: 61
    Max, just one question. When i do the real cook, is it with an inverted platesetter?
  • all the advice you've received is excellent. i agree with fishlessman. cook a practice turkey. assuming that the grocery chains in your area have turkeys as loss leaders (here they are 40 cents/lb), i would buy one the same size you are planning to cook for thanksgiving. assuming you'll want to practice cooking it this weekend, you may need to rush the thawing of it using hot water, but if you PROMISE not to eat it, don't worry about how you thaw it.
    i egged my first turkey after using the egg for about a year, so i had plenty of practice with temp control etc. however, even with mad max's excellent instructions, there were a couple of things i learned about during my first try that didn't matter to my immediate family but i would have been bummed out if i had a large group for dinner that i was trying to impress!
    good luck!!
    ps--i think you asked about the orientation of the plate setter. you want it legs up. then as mad max advises, use the 3 green egg feet to support your roasting pan, so it's not in direct contact with the plate setter. this will help prevent the drippings in the roasting pan from burning. however, as i learned the first year, if your roasting pan is larger than the plate setter, the part of the roaster that overhangs the edge of the plate setter will receive the radiant heat from the coals, so the juices in that end of the roaster will burn. during your practice run, you can determine if that's a problem and fashion a solution.