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epilogue to rib eyes aged 28 days

RRP
RRP Posts: 26,451
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Yesterday was the graduation day for my rib eye sub primal aged for 28 days in a Drybag. Out of the 12 steaks rendered I selected the two end caps for the commencement ceremony last night.
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Naturally to prepare for the event they needed an hour long hot tub "bath". I changed the water 3 times always keeping it in the 100 to 116 range.
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After the "bath" I hit them with kosher salt and nothing else. Then onto my cast iron grill in my small egg with a 650° dome. Total egging time was just 4 minutes in total and that included doing the flips to get the cross pattern sear marks.
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Then an unorthodox cut in half before plating along with a baked potato and a blue cheese and red leaf lettuce salad.
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They were quite tasty and no leftovers. Next time I will shorten the time on the grill as they still were not as rare as we like, but I'm learning how to egg aged beef as much as how to age it!
Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 

Comments

  • Big'un
    Big'un Posts: 5,909
    looks great! I found the outside pieces to be tough and chewy. No one would eat theirs. Was yours as tender as the rest of the primal?
  • Clam
    Clam Posts: 117
    So, do you find the effort invested worth the extra flavor?

    I have been to Argentina a couple of times, needless to say the steaks there are excellent. I wonder if they dry age?
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    Todd,

    I had to trim a little but not much and besides we found the dark mellowed and just became part of the bark - and tasty bark at that! Now that the caps are history the other 10 steaks only have the dark meat on the outside borders and of course I haven't tried those pieces yet. Needless to say we were eating high on the hog for a mid week night's supper! :laugh:

    Ron
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    worth the effort? yes! And really using the Drybags it wasn't much effort at all. In addition buying sub-primals are a big savings over buying individually sliced steaks. Then dry aging them yourself vs. buying dry aged is even a further savings.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • vidalia1
    vidalia1 Posts: 7,092
    Have you tried a 14 day and 21 day dry ageing? I ask that because I have read several reviews that say other than meat weight loss there is very little difference in the taste...just curious???
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    no I have not, but like most everything else in this world I'm finding there are lots of opinions out there! For now I'm in the camp of 21 days for New York strip primals and 28 days for rib eyes!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • DAC2
    DAC2 Posts: 66
    Did you notice any difference in taste and tenderness compaired to a Prime cut of meat? Thanks Darren
  • vidalia1
    vidalia1 Posts: 7,092
    Thanks for the info....
  •  
    The steaks look great, I am wondering if you find 28 days to be the optimal aging time or will you go longer/shorter in the future? (Just saw your response above).

    Thanks for sharing all the information you have posted. I thought "Sealing Drybags with a Food Saver" was very interesting. What makes the drybags different? If your meat will fit can you use a FoodSaver bag?

    Thanks,

    Gator

     
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    I'm no expert - Ok? But as I understand it the Drybag plastic is extruded and has properties which make it breathe so as to allow moisture to escape. OTOH unlike the smooth surface of Drybags the Food Saver material is "pebbled" so air can be sucked out without premature collapsing due to the vacuum. If you merely tried a Drybag in a Food Saver it will suck down and seal almost immediately thus not getting a tightly attached skin on the meat.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    And I meant to add that the Food Saver bag plastic is designed to NOT breathe so, no it would not work for dry aging.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Great looking steaks Ron

    Ross
  •  
    Very interesting! Thanks for the answer. I figured there had to be a good reason or no one would be buying the drybags.

    Gator

     
  • emilluca
    emilluca Posts: 673
    High on the steer.
    E
  • RRP,

    Great looking steaks! :woohoo:

    Two Questions:

    1) Do you find that the dry aged steak cooks any differently? I dry aged half of a ribeye primal 28 days and thought it cooked a little faster than a normal steak.

    2) Do you think the bags change the rate that the primal moisture decreases over the first few days compared to a primal aged without a bag? The end results seem to be similar at 28 days. It might be an interesting experiment to do one in a bag and one without at the same time and compare the weight loss percentage on a daily basis.
  • Looks great. How do you think they compare to non aged steaks?
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    oh they most certainly cook faster! as I said in my post I think even 4 minutes was too long having hot tubbed them for an hour before.

    As for a side by side comparison of a Drybag one vs. a non-Drybag that's what stike keeps telling me to do, but unless someone wants to send me $100 for the extra sub-primal it ain't going to happen! Besides I've had 2 successes so far with Drybags and I'm happy with the results. Stike says it's a crutch, but the pros outweigh the cons in my book so I'm sticking with the Drybags!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    oh there is clearly a difference - more tender and the taste is more intense. Note I only seasoned with kosher salt and nothing else. If I guy is going to use a heavy tasting rub or even - heaven forbid - A-1 steak sauce I wouldn't bother dry aging! Just buy steaks from Kroger and goop them up!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • FWIW, i said that i originally thought it might be a crutch, but after talking with you and keeping tabs, i thought we both came to the conclusion that the dry bags allow the moisture to be lost more slowly...

    if someone buys it because they think it protects the steak against bacteria, then it's a crutch, because it doesn't do that. hahha

    although i suggested your buying an extra rib eye and doing a side by side, our comparing notes is almost the same thing, since i age without the bags, and you age with. that's how it occurred to me that your bags gave yup the moisture more slowly. meaning, you can age longer without becoming overly dry if you use the bags.

    maybe it looks like i'm berating you... it was more a conversation (i thought). trying to learn what i can, and hoped i was helping at the same time.

    i have no problem with anyone using them. i just thought it was odd that i (and a few others) had been talking about aging at home a lot over the years, and it fell on deaf ears. but folks seem to be more interested when there's a toy involved. looks like that toy (well, the bags) have a benefit. i'll be the first to admit it.

    i go 21 and28 (strip and rib eye respectively, like you). but if i were gonna try 45+ days, i think i would try the bags to see if it holds drying to a better level than my fridge would. at 45 days, my strip loin would be a small dessicated log. i imagine the bag would permit 45 days easily.

    anyway. the more i type the less folks read.
  • Gunnar
    Gunnar Posts: 2,307
    Very good looking steaks!! First Stike and now you are convincing me to do this. Probably early in 2010 since the fridge I would have to use is in the garage and somewhat cooler here.
    LBGE      Katy (Houston) TX
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    I was just pimping you, Jeff! I too thought that we had reached a middle ground on the subject. I was just saying that you already had suggested the side by side before this egger did. Trust me - anytime I use the word "ain't" it's in a humorous tone! I'd end with a smiley face but I know those dis you!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Firetruck
    Firetruck Posts: 2,679
    Those look good Ron, I can't wait til mine are done next week. I decided to go the way of Stike and just throw that sucker in the fridge. So far...so good.
  • BobS
    BobS Posts: 2,485
    Great looking steaks!

    It was an interesting observation about the steaks cooking a little faster, but getting a steak hot in the center is mostly about getting the water warm inside, so having a steak with 20% less water probably does get hot faster I suppose if you have a steak of a given thickness.

    I gotta go check my food saver, I do not remember anything about a switch to change the sealing time and I do not have the paperwork any more....
  • they cook faster, for sure. but even raw, uncooked, they are firmer in feel than most steaks cooked.

    i always cook to temp. with the hot tub method, you only need to sear to your liking. doesn't take much to cook an aged steak
  • when you age the primal for the desired amount of time, you cut it into steaks and cook a couple.

    Do the rest go in the freezer? is there any difference storing dry aged beef than beef that hasn't been aged?
  • i cut the whole thing up into steaks and froze it.

    no real difference in storing
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    not in my way of thinking...

    here's the excess 10 rib eyes from yesterday in Food Saver bags
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    and here's the New York strips from my previous aged sub-primal.
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    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Deplesis
    Deplesis Posts: 215
    would you do anything differently the next time?
    Regards,
    RJ
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    not sure what you are asking...iffin you have read any of my related threads I think I've been pretty open. If you want to ask a more specific question please email me via this board. OK?
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time