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Attaching the bottom band back on question

Vincent Chase
Vincent Chase Posts: 149
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I took both the top and bottom bands off yesterday to realign a few things, and I'm not sure what the problem is with the position of the hinge in the back:

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The two holes on each side of that that need to be parallel to the band so that when I put the top band back on, I can screw them in. The springs look like they need to be almost 70 degrees or so from where they are to make that alignment happen, and I can't move that hinge to that position by pushing it.

When I bought my Egg it was partially assembled, so this is my first experience attaching the bands. I feel like the problem is with the springs and I didn't want to mess with that before consulting the experts.

Thanks for any help you folks can give me.

Comments

  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    That bottom hinge is now in it's open position.

    Not sure why you too the hinge assembly apart, but you need to move so the wide flat part is parallel to the ground.

    There really isn't any need to remove the band from the hinge assemble to align the dome.
  • Weekend Warrior
    Weekend Warrior Posts: 1,702
    He'll have to remove the springs now, won't he Pete? Then after he has the band and dome reinstalled, he'll have to put them back on with the lid open. Right?
  • Thanks, CW. I'm sorry to be ignorant (on top of less-than-handy), but how exactly do I get it to that position? I can't forcibly move that; it moves the band itself.
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    You'll have to remove the springs. They are holding it in the open position.

    Just be careful they could pop off and injure you..
  • Weekend Warrior
    Weekend Warrior Posts: 1,702
    Use a pair of vise grips if you have them and really clamp down hard. Safety glasses if you got 'em. I have used channel locks and they will work in a pinch too, just a smidge more danger involved. :whistle:
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    I guess I am missing something here...

    With the bottom band tightly on the egg.

    Loosely screw the bands on with the hing in the open position. Loosely but the band bolt on and connect the two band halves together.

    You can do 1 of two things here. Hold both sides of the band and use wire ties to hold the hinge closed.

    OR

    Tighten the hing/band bolts. Put the dome on the egg. Now move the band down over the dome and begin to tighten the band bolts.

    Check alignments and fully tighten the bands.

    GG
  • Weekend Warrior
    Weekend Warrior Posts: 1,702
    Kent, if he does it your way, he risks the band coming back up and smacking him in the face....and that's IF he manages to put the hinge in the down position without the dome in the band.
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    I thought about just attaching the band to the open hinge, but he'll still have to get the hinge closed to re-install the dome. Without the dome in place he risks bending the bands. Course he could get some help holding the dome while he tightens the band with it in the open position, but that risks dropping the dome.

    Had he put the wire ties on with the hinge in it's closed position this wouldn't have been an issue.
  • Weekend Warrior
    Weekend Warrior Posts: 1,702
    A lot of folks make a big deal about the little plastic pieces or wire ties here to hold the hinge together and I've replaced 3 gaskets by starting with removing the springs. It's not that big a deal; taking them off, or putting them back on.
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    I never saw the logic in removing the dome to replace the gasket myself..
  • Weekend Warrior
    Weekend Warrior Posts: 1,702
    After I tried scraping and cleaning the gasket surface of the dome with it still in the band and attached to the egg, I decided I could do a much better and thorough job with the dome upside down on the ground. Made spraying on the Super 77 a little less challenging too. Plus, I like takin' sh*t apart an puttin' it back together. :P :laugh:
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    It works great. It is safer if one person holds the band down. Once the band bolt is around the dome and some tightening is done on the band bolt the hinge won't slip and will help keep the band up against the dome band limit ridge.

    Kent
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    toasted gasket comes off so easy with a MAPP torch and a putty knife.

    The real truth is you like taking stuff apart.. Unless it's a computer, router, switch, firewall or proxy I'll pass.
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    With the band bolt loose or off the dome can be put on the base then the band slid down over the dome.

    Kent
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    I have changed the gaskets with the dome on and off. It is easier removing and and reinstalling the new gasket with the dome off.

    Using MAPP might very well make removal easier.

    Kent
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    That hinge is in the open position. It will have to be forced into the closed position to do as you suggest. Apply force to the band risks bending the band.

    He has already said trying to close the hinge is causing the bottom band to bend.

    Just easier to remove the springs.
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    "Apply force to the band risks bending the band."

    Forgot to address that point.

    I have the bottom band firmly attached to the hinge, around the egg and the band bolt tight but not to the point of bold bend.

    At that point I didn't bend the bottom band.

    Now for the top band... dome in place. Band more than snug to the hinge. Band bolt loose.

    I hold the band about 30 to 40 percent away from the hinge (back half of the dome and lower the band over the dome and over the molded band ridge. Snug up the band bolt so it the hinge won't "flip" the band open.

    I then final tighten the top band hinge bolts. Snug the bane up against the dome band ridge and then tighten up the upper band bold.

    Check alignment and final tighten the bottom band bolt. Recheck the alignment and then final tighten the upper band bolt.

    If the bands are bent (torqued) lay them flat on the cement and carefully twist them back into position. Not a big problem.

    I had a real problem with dome alignment and could never seem to get the dome to pass the dollar bill test.

    As a last result I used the open hinge method to install the dome and the steps detailed above ended up with a very good seal.

    I agree, most people use the hinge restraints or use plastic straps to hold the hinge closed.

    Removing the springs was a PITA to say the least. However, using a drum brake spring remover and brake spoon worked well getting the springs off and back on.

    For this thread we were working with a hinge that was already open. This is just another way to reach the same goal.

    The open hinge method worked out great for my alignment problem.

    Kent
  • GG,
    I agree, I took off the top dome on my large to change the gasket. I was worried that I would have a problem in bring the hinge in the closed position but I took a needlehose and grabbed the flat section of hinge and pushed the band over the dome. The ridge that you mentioned kept the band from smacking me in the face while I tighten the bands.

    Andres
    Zuni, NM
  • tach18k
    tach18k Posts: 1,607
    When I redo my gaskets, I remove the springs first with the lid open with a helper to hold it open and keep it from falling down. Then I lower the lid and remove the bands, I'll replace the gaskets and put the lid back in position, I will secure both bands tightly. Now my helper will lift the lid and I replace the springs, and were done. This is a good way to correct miss-alignment of the top and bottoms.