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?? cornmeal crust for pizza

Mickey
Mickey Posts: 19,768
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
anyone do a cornmeal crust for deep dish pizza? had the best in Chicago and want to do it.
Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd. 

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  • Bluecrab3
    Bluecrab3 Posts: 328
    Micky,

    Check out my post from last night and click on the link to Jazzman's post. While I thought corn meal was in the Chicago-style pizza, it's actually semolina flour with regular flour...check it out. Turned out great. :)
  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,768
    Thanks. I take him at his word, just can't belive all this time thinking cornmeal.
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd. 

  • Spring Chicken
    Spring Chicken Posts: 10,255
    I used corn meal for my first pizza because it was supposed to keep the pizza dough from sticking to the pizza stone. The pizza itself was fine but the corn meal ruined it because it burned on the pizza stone. I haven't used it for that purpose since.

    I'm also interested in the deep dish pizza Bluecrab3 mentioned. Sounds interesting.

    Spring "Deep Dish Biscuit Lover" Chicken
    Spring Texas USA
  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,768
    Leroy we did the same thing on the small. Had cornmeal all over the place and the dough still ended up in a ball with the toppings. With this large yesterday I used the parchment paper and that is the way I will go. Did some bread sticks with leftover dough and still used the paper. It works.
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd. 

  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,768
    Leroy the book has not made it in yet from Amazon. Will send you a note when it gets here.
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd. 

  • BobS
    BobS Posts: 2,485
    It sounds like you are talking about having some cornmeal in the dough. I have tried that, based on a recipe in "The Best Recipe" (Cooks Illustraged cookbook).

    I used coarse groind polenta and it turned out pretty good, but want to try again with regular cornmeal.

    Here is the recipe, with the cornmeal option at the end.

    Pizza Dough with Jeff Varasano’s Kneading Techniques

    The brown sugar helps the crust brown on the pizza stone.

    3 cups bread flour (480 grams or 16.9 ounces)
    1 cup semolina flour (160 grams or 5.6 ounces)
    Note: Jeff says even regular flour for the whole amount is okay.
    1 packet instant yeast (**)
    1 tsp. salt (2 tsp if using Kosher salt)
    1 Tbsp. brown sugar
    1 ¾ C warm water (414 grams or 14.6 ounces)
    2 Tbsp veg oil.

    Comments:

    NOTE: This recipe makes a dough with 65% hydration. I think it is a little wet, especially with a long slow rise, so am planning to cut back to 60% next time (384 grams or 13 ounces).

    Everything should be room temperature or a bit cooler.

    Mix all the liquids plus the sugar in the bowl of your mixer.

    Mix dry ingredients. Add ¾ of the dry ingredients to the mixer bowl. Mix on lowest speed for 1-2 minutes or until completely blended (I use the paddle for this stage). At this stage you should have a mix that is drier than a batter, but wetter than a dough.

    Cover and let it rest for 20 minutes.

    The high moisture initiates a process called autolyse, which activates the gluten in the flour. This is the same technique used in the no knead bread recipe.

    After the rest (don’t rush this and not harm letting it go longer), start mixing on low speed for 5 minutes – do not add remaining flour during this time (using paddle). Five minutes into the kneading, switch to the dough hook and start adding flour gradually and let it come together to a smooth dough.

    At this point I divide the dough into two pieces and set it aside for the rise. This is perfect for two pizzas on the BGE pizza stone.

    (**) If you are going to use on the day you make the dough, add the yeast as shown above. If you want to let the dough develop for one or more days in your refrigerator, cut back to ¼ - ½ teaspoon yeast.

    This comes together with a single rise to 1 ½ - 2 times original size.

    You should press/stretch the dough with your hands. Rolling the dough will collapse the air bubbles and you will get a less effective rise when you cook the pizza. On the other hand a rolled crust will be more like a cracker type crust.

    Cornmeal version: replace ¾ cup (120 grams) flour with ¾ cup cornmeal. This tasted really good and I need to work with it again!

    I always cook mine on parchment – even when cooking at 700! For me the dough is easier to handle and you can press out the dough, ahead of time, on the parchment rounds.
  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,768
    Bob I will give that a try.
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd.