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bitter butts
Smokingswann
Posts: 13
I smoked 20 #'s of butts Sunday. I used hickory from a tree that was well cured. I smoked at 235degrees for about 15 hours, they came out looking great, but were ruined, as they were bitter. I burnt the chunks about 15 minutes, almost red hot, cracked lower damper about 1/4 inch, daisy wheel open(oblong holes about 2/3 open). What happened?
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Why did you burn the hickory chunks???
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How else will you get the chunks hot?
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Smokingswann,
Did you use just hickory...like no lump? A little smoke goes a long way in an egg.
SteveSteve
Caledon, ON
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Leave them in the burning lump?
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Used all hickory. Have done before and not bitter.
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Spread out.
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Smokingswann,
I have never tried that but find one or two chunks adds loads of flavour. Creosote from the wood maybe?
SteveSteve
Caledon, ON
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When you cook on the BGE you use lump charcoal for the heat. If you want to add smoke you add a few chunks of hickory or any other wood for smoke. You place a few chunks spread throughout the lump and get the fire going then put the butts on.
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Someone out there has had the same problem with bitter butts that I have. How do I correct. Have you used all hickory? Most bbq joints around here smoke with large pieces of hardwood.
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Lump hardwood coals, right? Have done that, and didn't have trouble with the bitterness, but I have used the all ahrdwood, and it was not bitter before.
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Smokingswann,
They smoke in an open pit or offset. All the smoke goes into the air. The egg (or any ceramic cooker) release minimal amounts to the atmosphere.
SteveSteve
Caledon, ON
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Sorry but someone has to yell.
Lump, lump, lump with a couple pieces of hardwood mixed in. No briquets just lump and a few pieces of wood. Your butt will taste incredible like everyone elses butt. :laugh:
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It sounds like you are saying you used all hickory wood, not hickory lump (pre burned).
If that's the case I would expect a bitter taste. Also, putting a lot of hickory chunks or chips into the lump would also create a somewhat bitter taste.
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Could I burn down large chunks of cured hardwood to burnt lump and it work?
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Smokingswann....When it comes to cooking in the Egg, there is no other option. Hardwood lump charcoal for heat, and a lump or two of wood, to add smoke flavor. The Egg is not designed to burn wood for fuel. No matter what you do, any meat will be inedible from complete smoke saturation. Hardwood (preburnt) lump. Period. People here are trying to help solve your dilemma...bitter butts.... It won't happen to you again if you follow the recommendations.
Sorry you had a bad cook! :( It happens!
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Sure just follow these instructions
http://www.nakedwhiz.com/makinglump.htm
but why would you want to??? -
Thanks, you rock.
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I would think so. I think they burn wood at very high temps in a kiln to make the lump. I've had the same thought in the winter and the fireplace is goin 3-4 nights a week. That's actually how I start it in the winter. My absolute favorite starting method. Insta-fire
Sorry to raise my keyboard
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It appears we have a 'hardhead" insisting on cooking with "hardwood". :ohmy: :huh:
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just going thru my options, sorry to rock your boat.
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I don't really understand why you would want to use only hardwood. The creosote is what caused your bitter flavor.
If you would take a little more time, and be more descriptive in your post and replies, I'm sure some of the bright minds and experienced cooks on here can offer you some great help. I think the disconnect is that you aren't really giving up enough information to help people determine the problem, the procedure you followed, etc.
Creosote is created when wood is burned and several by-products are produced. These include smoke, water vapor, gases, unburned wood particles, hydrocarbon volatiles, tar fog and assorted minerals. As these substances exit the hotter firebox area of the cooker and flow up into the relatively cooler dome, condensation occurs. The resulting residue that sticks to the inner walls and anything inside the egg is creosote. Lump charcoal has had many of these by-products already burned off so the relative risk of creosote formation is much lower.
Since the egg is so good at maintaining moisture the potential for creosote creation is pretty high. Add to that the moisture from burning wood and the risk of creosote creation is even greater. Only use a small amount of wood chunks to complement the flavors imparted by the lump charcoal and I think you'll be much happier with the end result. -
Thanks, Rod. I screwed up. I appreciate your info.
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Swan
This site will teach you ALL that is to know about the Egg. As long as you listen to them and follow the A1 guidance, you will be producing the food that dreams are made of. Stick around
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For a minute there I thought I was reading a reply by Stike. Very well put and thoughtful. Bravo.
You have typed in one paragraph what it would take me three.
People need to remember that all of the air entering the egg goes to heat production. Kind hard to get rid of the nasties with so little air flow. -
well mike, why not call me fat and ugly while you're kicking me......
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I'd never do that.
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no. lump is almost pure carbon. it can only be made by burning wood in an environment nearly free of oxygen. this makes for a slow smoldering fire that drives off almost everything except the carbon. as a result, the carbon left over will burn far hotter than the wood it came from ever could.
when you light a fire fueld by wood, and look in and see red coals, that stuff looks a lot like lump. but it ain't lump
if you had a pit barbecue, sure, go ahead, but an egg isn't the same thinged egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
not at high temps, rather relatively low temps. still enough to burn off the organics. but high heat would consume the carbon too.ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
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It can be done BUT YOU HAVE TO BURN THE WOOD BEFORE!!!
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