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Pulled Leg of Lamb

PWise
PWise Posts: 1,173
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Want to cook some lamb for a dinner party this weekend but I want to use the meat to fill raviolis that will go with a white wine-mint infused sauce.

Any suggestions regarding how to cook the leg of lamb? I know I have to do it low and slow, but has anyone got any input on the rub to be used?

Cheers! and thanks!

Comments

  • Richard Fl
    Richard Fl Posts: 8,297
    This is a marinade that we like. Since you are going to pull it, have you thought of braising it in some liquid and then pull it?

    Marinade, Lamb, Richard Fl


    INGREDIENTS:
    1 Cup Italian Salad Dressing
    4-6 Cloves Garlic, Whole
    1/3 Cup Sweet or Red Onion, Diced
    1/3 Cup Rosemary, Fresh Leaves
    1 Tbs Black Pepper, Fresh Ground
    1 Pinch Sea Salt
    1/4 Cup Balsamic Vinegar
    1 Lemon, Juice From
    Fresh Mint leaves, ( Optional )
    1/4 Cup Soy Sauce, ( Optional )




    Preparation:
    1 Place all in blender and puree. Place meat in ziploc bag and marinate for 4-6 hours, overnight is OK but be careful after 12 hours as the lemon juice has a tendency to "COOK" the meat.
    2 This works well for lamb kabobs, legs, rack or shoulders and shanks.
    3 Soy sauce may be added for optional flavor.,
    4 If doing shanks, like to cut into 1 1/2-2 inch pieces as this tends to reduce the cooking time.
    5 Save the rosemary twigs for smoke!


    Recipe Type
    Marinade

    Recipe Source
    Author: Richard Howe

    Source: BGE Forum, Richard Fl, 2001/05/25
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    Any particular brand of italian salad dressing? or a simple vinaigrette with italian herbs would do?

    cheers and thanks!
  • Richard Fl
    Richard Fl Posts: 8,297
    I usually have any old italian brand around that is cheep 'cause I play with it many times adding a balsamic vinegar. I also cut slits and add lots of garlic clove slivers when cooking and marinating. Love that garlic.
  • crghc98
    crghc98 Posts: 1,006
    seems like a waste of the good meat....why not braise some fattier shoulder chops or stew meat?
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    Well.... I'm a firm believer that any dish is as good as its worst ingredient... I guess if I want quality raviolis with a sauce that complements the meat inside but at the same time does not "wet" it before it is put in you mouth, then I have to use good quality meat...
    I compare it to having a good hamburger vs a GREAT hamburger; I know many people consider grinding a Kobe ribeye to use in hamburgers a very big waste but I can asure you you will never ever achieve the same flavour in a burger with any other meat... let alone if you add foiegras (a big no-no for purists who think foiegras should be served whole or au torchon).

    But to keep all those purists at ease, I'm also serving roasted and rosemary smoked lamb rack in a trffle/morel bordelaise sauce. (more traditional approach).

    Cheers!
  • crghc98
    crghc98 Posts: 1,006
    Sorry...not trying to offend. I was just thinking if you braised it you could get the some flavor and tenderness from a shoulder chop (I actually prefer these steaks grilled over a roasted leg of lamb though they can be fatty) at a much cheaper price.

    Please post pictures, your food always looks good.
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    hehe, no offense taken ;) , I know you weren't trying to offend :) , all suggestions I welcome, and I'm sorry if my response was blunt :unsure: , I was just trying to explain my point on using good quality ingredients... I had thought about using shoulder or even saddle, but decided on leg because I want to experiment with it, consiering it is by nature better quality meat :whistle: . that's all.

    And yes, you can expect entire preparation/cooking/dining process first thing monday morning. :woohoo:

    cheers!
  • mkc
    mkc Posts: 544
    You might want to consider shanks instead of the whole leg. I do shanks in the slow cooker a couple of times a year, and they get a nice, "shreddy" texture. I actually do shred it rather than serve the shanks whole, and serve over buttered noodles.

    With a lighter sauce planned for the ravioli, I'd go easy on the rub so it doesn't fight with the mint. Salt, pepper, maybe a little granulated garlic, that sort of thing. Some fresh minced parsley added to the shredded meat before filling the ravs might be nice.

    ETA - here's the recipe. I often brine my lamb overnight by sprinkling it with kosher salt and submerging in buttermilk to tenderize it and pull out some of the gaminess.

    Herbed Lamb Shanks

    About 2 1/2 lbs. lamb shanks (4 large or 6 small), trimmed of visible fat and silver skin
    1 tbsp. butter
    2-3 teaspoons garlic, minced
    1/4 teaspoon dried marjoram
    dash ground mace or nutmeg
    1 to 1 1/2 cups water
    1 teaspoon salt

    Roux
    1/4 c. all-purpose flour
    2 tbsp.s butter -- melted

    1/2 c. water or red wine, if needed

    1 Tablespoon freshly chopped/minced parsley

    Hot cooked noodles with butter

    1. In large skillet, brown lamb shanks in 1 tablespoon butter. Add garlic, marjoram, mace/nutmeg, 1 1/2 cup water and salt. Cook, covered, over low heat for 1 hour. (or use only 1 cup water and transfer to slow cooker and cook on low for 5-6 hours)

    2. In small skillet, add flour to 2 tablespoons melted butter; cook and stir over low heat until mixture is browned to a butterscotch color. Add to meat. Cook and stir until gravy thickens and bubbles. Stir in parsley. Add 1/2 cup water or wine if needed to thin sauce. Cook, covered, about 1 hour more or until meat is tender.

    3. Arrange lamb shanks on a bed of hot cooked noodles; spoon a little gravy. Pass remaining gravy.
    Optionally, pull meat from bone and shred into sauce, discard bones, other non-meat bits, serve over noodles.

    Makes 4 servings.
    Egging in Crossville, TN
  • Pato,

    In reading the responses, I am understanding that you don't want to cook the leg to "pulling temps" but you want to shred it. Is that correct?

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    the dizzy pig site has some suggestions for a shoulder done kentucky style. with that leg you are going to need a foil stage, at or near 180 wrap in foil with some liquid, just a little or it would taste braised, a couple tblspoons max. continue to cook til pullable, was in the 205 to 215 internal range if i remember right. im not a mutton fan and did not like pulled lamb but thats just me, i like leg of lamb practically raw, just slightly warmed, and have had a fair share just ground raw and served with pita and onion.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    here is the link from the one and only time i pulled a leg of lamb. it was suggested to me to remove all fat before cooking.
    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=106395&catid=1
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • crghc98
    crghc98 Posts: 1,006
    My dad is lebanese...there is a dish of ground lamb and crached wheat with spices served with pita bread and onion, and of course topped with some olive oil...called kibbeh

    If you haven't tried it find a good lebanese restaurant (small family ones will have it raw as a special)

    others have it fried or baked with a stuffing.

    Can also be made with beef (ground london broil works well)....



    mmmmmmmmm....I think I need to give him a call and get it on the list...
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    Well I was thinking about cooking with dome temp at 200 and pulling at about 175 internal, much like confit, except it won't be covered in fat...

    Any input on this?

    cheers!
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    yep, raw kibbee, served in a few places around here still, but slowly falling off the map. good stuff baked for breakfast with eggs too. used to eat it baked as a sandwhich as well. funny when you hear that beef or lamb isnt cooked enough when you grew up eating it raw at room temp. cant beat some raw kibee and some tabouleh folded up in some fresh pita, maybe some labne spread in as well, i could eat off the appetizer menu
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • crghc98
    crghc98 Posts: 1,006
    same here. My wife freaks out when I tell her I'll be giving it to my kids...

    I do have to say my dad makes great tabouleh too, chops everything real fine...bakes his Kibbeh when not raw, or fries it up as a patty, slice of cheese and in egg in Pita for breakfast...

    Only equivalent restaurant I ever found was one out in Worcester Ma, I went to school at Holy Cross, run by a small family. Women in the back cooking, men serving when they weren't around the hookah (sp?)wonder if it is still there?


    I've been thinking of doing some meat and spinach pies on the egg...my dad doesn't make those and my grandmother passed away 7 or 8 years ago so it has been at least that long...
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    theres a link for the meat pies and some changes i made last time with them. richard on the forum makes a great chutney which really makes these wonderful
    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=330427&catid=1
    pretty simple using pizza dough
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    Thanks a lot for the info!
    I read your post and got to thinking, kind of in a "crossroads": I actually like the gamey taste of oven roasted lamb which I've done many times before. I forgot to mention this is new-zealand baby lamb, it is less gamey than older grown lamb...

    But since pulling is needed I was insecure about overcooking the meat... I guess I'll take it out at 175 and if it won't pull, will finish in a braise in a dutch oven, and see how it works out... after all, it is an experiment haha :whistle:

    cheers!
  • Pato,

    Is it the texture you are lookin for? I just wonder if the leg might lose some of the "lamby" flavour going so high, like a braised shank or shoulder pot roast albeit you wouldn't use liquid. I would be very interested in the results cause I have thought about doing a leg like that myself.

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    if i were to cook this again, i would still bring it up in temp. i would however remove any fat from it before hand, and maybe even cap it with some fat from a picnic shoulder. im a little biased towards red lamb meat, much sweeter tasting to me, i know others that like it fully cooked and you would probably love it cooked this way if you like low and slow goat etc. the lebanese places up here serve it blood red if you ask. the sfeeha pie filling posted above with the lemon juice added would make a good ravioli i believe, my idea of a great ravioli is maine lobster as a filling
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    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • PWise
    PWise Posts: 1,173
    Steve:

    It is both the texture AND the flavour I'm looking for... I actually wouldn't mind that much if the meat isn't as pullable as pulled pork, I can always roughly chop it just enough to fit in the ravioli...

    About the flavour, I for sure want people to be able to tell that the raviolis are lamb-filled, so flavour is important.

    Also, I'm thinking of using duck fat to maintain moisture throughout the roast.

    You can be sure I will post all the process and results with photos and comments... I will do a little more research today and design the "game plan" hehe :P

    cheers!
  • Pato,

    That's what I was thinking. Cook the lamb to a point that you can still have the flavour, specially if it's Kiwi, Canadian lamb is so much better but not marketed as well. Chop, shred or whatever but keep the flavour there. You have to figure, the pasta is going to mellow out whatever you do a bit anyway. ;)

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON