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Brine or no Brine??

Cutlet
Cutlet Posts: 7
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Doing Mad Max's turkey for the first time this year and am wondering if ya'll have a preference on brining or not. If so what is a good brine to use? Thanks!

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  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    Never ever brined a turkey and I will die never having brined a turkey.

    I like the taste of turkey..
  • emilluca
    emilluca Posts: 673
    Yeh and the earth is flat.....
    Never say never
    E
  • Mainegg
    Mainegg Posts: 7,787
    OH E, :pinch: Are you trying to get him all twisted up?? LOL But I do have to say I agree with Pete. I Do not like brined stuff and that is why we quite buying meats at the grocery. If I want Ham I will buy Ham, I do not want my turkey, chicken or anything else to taste like ham :sick: I want good clear clean meat that taste like it is supposed to. I will probably never brine a turkey either. that is why I spent $$ on a fresh one when Hanifords had some for $15.oo. I about died to do it but that is hubbies big treat every year LOL and the only thing he asks for sooo..... besides with the egg it is kind of defeating the purpose aren't you??
    The only person that will know if you like it is you though. I have tried it and did not care for it so that is where my 2 cents come from :)
  • DO THE BRINE. Your stomach,mouth and taste buds will thankyou

    Doug
    Dallas, Ga
  • Only Brine if your turkey has not been injected. Other wise too much salt
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    In this case I will. 38 years and counting.
  • Mainegg
    Mainegg Posts: 7,787
    Gosh Pete only 38??? :ohmy: I thought at least 70 or 80??? ;)
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    I was 15 when I started cooking for Thanksgiving..

    Hush or I may come up there and take over your corner.
  • jeffinsgf
    jeffinsgf Posts: 1,259
    I've had one brined turkey. My BIL did one for Christmas a few years ago. It was unbelievably moist, not the least bit salty, nor "mushy".

    See the post just a little earlier today re: dry brining. LA Times article on the process. I'm going to do this then roast ala Mad Max.
  • bubba tim
    bubba tim Posts: 3,216
    Have you ever tasted a brined bird?
    You must master temp, smoke, and time to achive moisture, taste, and texture! Visit www.bubbatim.com for BRISKET HELP
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    Yes and I still prefer the taste of turkey all by itself.
  • bubba tim
    bubba tim Posts: 3,216
    When LC was doing some experimenting (guess who the lab rat is ?) on brine, she did a basic brine of 2 parts salt to 1 part sugar. It didn't change the flavor but it had lots of moisture and was tender. After 4 years of a little of this and a little of that, it is now a closely guarded secret. I am with you, I just want a moist and tender turkey. The only thing I want on my turkey is some gravy! :P :P
    You must master temp, smoke, and time to achive moisture, taste, and texture! Visit www.bubbatim.com for BRISKET HELP
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    Moist and Tender you will get on the egg, especially if you follow Max's technique.

    Our recipes are different, but we do pretty much cook it the same way.. Go Figure :)
  • Zippylip
    Zippylip Posts: 4,768
    I did non-brined turkeys for about 10 years, then began brining about 10 years ago & have never looked back; I use a simple 1/2 sugar 1/2 salt mix with enough water to cover the bird. I have been unable to detect any flavor difference between brined & unbrined, but the moisture factor is increased to a degree I cannot attain without the brine - And the beautiful part is there is no basting required (great for the lazy cooker :whistle: ), pop it on the egg & don't touch it until its done, real easy & if properly brined you almost can't dry it out, good luck on whatever way you go
    happy in the hut
    West Chester Pennsylvania
  • Are you brining a fresh bird or one that has been frozen. All the ones I found frozen say they are injected with a 5 to 8 % solution. Will brining be over kill?
  • Zippylip
    Zippylip Posts: 4,768
    I have done both, but for the last 4 or 5 years I have been getting the organic free range ones, you know, the hippie turkies :laugh: ; I don't recall whether or not the frozen ones I did were injected or not, they probably were, but they still came out great with the brine, it wasn't overkill
    happy in the hut
    West Chester Pennsylvania
  • Big'un
    Big'un Posts: 5,909
    I've brined for the last few years. This year I elect not to. But I will inject with Cajun Butter!
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    You win!! My wife (the one that diesn't cook) just came home with a Frozen Turkey and it's injected with the 8% solution..

    Guess she forgot the "FRESH" part of the request. :whistle:

    Hmm Technically I still have never brined a bird. Honeysuckle did it :woohoo:
  • Zippylip
    Zippylip Posts: 4,768
    that sounds interesting, do tell?
    happy in the hut
    West Chester Pennsylvania
  • Big'un
    Big'un Posts: 5,909
    I just make a batch and inject the night before the cook. Enjoy!


    Scottie's Creole butter
    1 can beer of choice
    1 pound butter
    1 tablespoon Big Time BBQ Rub (or your favorite rub)
    1 tablespoon paprika
    1 tablespoon freshly ground white pepper
    1 tablespoon sea salt
    1 tablespoon garlic powder
    1 tablespoon onion powder
    1 tablespoon dry mustard
    1 tablespoon freshly and finely ground black pepper
    1 teaspoon cayenne
    Melt the butter in saucepan and add the beer and spices. Mix well. Let cool, then inject.
    Yield: About 2 1/2 cups
    Heat Scale: Medium
  • thirdeye
    thirdeye Posts: 7,428
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    I brine all poultry white meat and looking at all the responses here, you need to do a side-by-side to see what's best for you. In early fall, I ran polls on several cooking forums about brining turkey breasts and the results were 55% to 60% in favor of brining. Here is a great article (pro brining) from Cathy Thomas from the Colorado Springs Gazette written in 2002. You will recognize many of the sources quoted. There is also a brining write-up on my cookin' site.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_/ai_n10011189

    All that said, I think there is an area of caution that should be explored here. Followers of Max's recipe rave about the quality of the gravy produced from a Mad Max Turkey. Now, not being a gravy man I don't know if the drippings from a brined turkey will affect the flavor or saltiness of the gravy.
    Happy Trails
    ~thirdeye~

    Barbecue is not rocket surgery
  • Zippylip
    Zippylip Posts: 4,768
    I can answer that last inquiry, I am a gravy man & do a smoked gravy with the rendered turkey fat, drippings & veggie stock that collects under the bird from a 24 hour brined bird (along with a medium roux), it is not salty (or sweet for that matter) from the brining liquid used
    happy in the hut
    West Chester Pennsylvania
  • Mainegg
    Mainegg Posts: 7,787
    Celtic Wolf wrote:
    You win!! My wife (the one that diesn't cook) just came home with a Frozen Turkey and it's injected with the 8% solution..

    Guess she forgot the "FRESH" part of the request. :whistle:

    Hmm Technically I still have never brined a bird. Honeysuckle did it :woohoo:

    HONEYSUCKLE???? :woohoo: :silly: HONEYSUCKLE Pete???? :P :silly: :lol: Ok I am about rolling on the floor
    he he :kiss: honeysuckle LOL you are just a teddy bear aren't you! LOL he he
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
    Honeysuckle is the name of the company hooker!!! Geesh!!!

    I call my wife Rita!!
  • Mainegg
    Mainegg Posts: 7,787
    oh... I thought that was a little sugary for you :blush: :huh:
  • Lawn Ranger
    Lawn Ranger Posts: 5,467
    Not doing Max's, but I am about to do Julie Applegate's brine on two turkey breasts. Some of the best stuff I've ever tasted. Smoked, roasted or otherwise. It's good. Don't be afraid to try new things.

    Mike
  • jeffinsgf
    jeffinsgf Posts: 1,259
    Just got back from the grocery where I almost had the same experience. My favorite store had three kinds of fresh turkeys, Honeysuckle, Butterball and free range. The free range were nearly double the price. I grew up on Honeysuckle turkeys, so I asked for one. My "fresh" turkey was frozen hard as a rock. Butcher said it was a requirement for transportation. Okay, I guess I can accept that, but then I read the package and saw the "self basting solution". I asked to see a Butterball. The fresh Butterballs said that they were all natural "minimally processed". I switched to a Butterball.