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suggestions needed for smoking a ham

deepsouth
deepsouth Posts: 1,796
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
i've never smoked a ham. any recommendations regarding seasonings, cooking temps, cooking times, etc.....

thanks in advance.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    look for dr chickens double smoked ham recipe, its a good one.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • deepsouth
    deepsouth Posts: 1,796
    i had to do a google search to find it as it's on the old fourm, so i'll copy and paste it here for future reference......

    Dr. Chicken’s Double Smoked Ham

    Ham should be a fully cooked or partially cooked ½ shank variety or can be shoulder variety (water added can be used, as long as the water added does not exceed 23% water added product.) If it is pre-smoked with hickory, that seems to work out best. Patti/Jean or Cooks among the best, but other varieties can be used!

    Glazing Sauce:
    ½ cup brown sugar
    ¼ cup maple syrup (use dark grade B real maple syrup if available)(dark grade B has more flavor than grade A)
    ¼ cup honey
    2 Tbsp cider vinegar
    1 – 2 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce
    2 Tbsp instant coffee granules (use a good brand because it makes a difference)
    1 Tbsp dry ground mustard
    2 Tbsp orange juice concentrate (a good brand provides better flavor)

    Blend all ingredients in a sauce pan with a wire whip and heat slightly until everything combines into a viscous or thick looking sauce.

    Cooking instructions:
    Score outer skin of ham to a depth of ½ inch in a crisscross diamond pattern. This will allow the glazing sauce to penetrate below the skin, into the actual ham. Place ham (un-glazed) into a shallow roasting pan or roasting rack. If pineapple and cherries are desired on the outside, add them when you start the glazing process. Cook in oven @ 275° – 300° with a loose tent of aluminum foil over the top for 25 to 30 minutes per lb. Baste with glazing sauce the last hour of cooking time and continue to cook until the ham reaches an internal temperature of 140°. Remove from oven and allow to sit covered for 20 to 30 minutes before carving!

    Cooking instructions for outdoor cooking:
    This can be done on a grill over indirect heat or in a water smoker or other type of cooker, again over indirect heat or “low & slow” type cooking. Do not tent over ham if done on grill, water smoker or other cooker; this would prevent smoke from penetrating the ham.

    Place water soaked chunks of mesquite, hickory or pecan (we prefer the smoke of pecan over all the others) on coals 5 minutes before putting ham on cooker. This will allow the ham to obtain maximum smoke flavor during the second cook cycle. ( the first cook cycle is the cycle the processor uses.) If even more smoke flavor is desired, place ham in freezer for 1 to 1 ½ hours prior to cooking to allow outer edges of ham to start to freeze. Go easy on this procedure; you don’t want the ham frozen hard!
    Maintain temperature of cooker/grill at 225° to 275° during cook cycle.

    If using a water smoker, fill water pan ¾ full with hot water and add 2 cups of orange, pineapple, or orange/pineapple mix, sweetened grapefruit or apple juice to the water. (all of them act as tenderizer as the steam penetrates the meat.) (I use a ¾ full drip pan when cooking on the Eggs, filled with a 50:50 mix of water and orange juice.)

    Again, cook for 25 to 30 minutes per lb. until internal temp on the ham shows 140°. A couple of books suggest 145° and 160° respectively. Shirley O. Corriher in her book “CookWise” suggests 140°. We found this to be exactly right. After removing from the Egg, it will climb up to 145° internally. The ham will retain it moistness and the flavor will go thru out the ham this way.

    Baste ham with glazing sauce every 10 to 15 minutes during the last hour of cooking time. Glazing compound will burn, so do not start glazing the ham until the internal temp of the ham reaches 120°.
    NOTE: The secret to this process is plenty of smoke and the real maple syrup and granular coffee crystals in the glazing sauce. Use a cheaper cut of ham like mentioned before, and people will think you bought an expensive ham that you had to “hock” your kids for! Yuk! Yuk! (see my pun there?) The glazing sauce will give the ham a fantastic taste, smell and color!

    Enjoy!!! El Chefo Dave (aka: Dr. Chicken)

    Note: Use an injectable marinade such as Tony Chachere’s Pecan-Honey-Praline in the ham just before cooking to “explode” the flavor of the ham. Be sure to use it @ the recommended rate of 2 fl. Ozs. per pound. It really does take that much to do the job right!


    Dr. Chicken’s Sweet Kiss of Death Injectable Marinade

    First off, let me give a little background into the idea behind this injectable marinade and the reasoning behind it.

    Years ago, my Grandma and my Mom both cooked such delightfully good hams at Christmas time; it would make your head swim in delight. The aroma would make our house smell good for days!
    Tender, sweet, moist (most of the time) and just plain scrumptious, it was a memory like all of us have. I always wanted to duplicate the recipe. But, by the time I got around to asking my Mom about it, she was nearly bed ridden and had trouble remembering yesterday much less 40 to 50 years ago. Mom passed away 2 years ago last Valentines Day in 2000. But, I’ve continued to search and work at that memorable cooked ham.
    Five years ago, I took a challenge from my oldest brother to duplicate that recipe in an outdoor cooker. He said, “It can’t be done!” Any of you that have tried my “Dr. Chicken’s Double Smoked Ham” recipe knows that remark was not true then and is not true now!

    But, in all honesty, even the double smoked ham recipe left something to be desired. Sometimes it left the ham tasting great, but a little too dry. I believe it was Earl or Sprinter or GFW from the BGE user’s forum that suggested I use an injectable marinade in the ham, such as Cajun Injector’s or Tony Chachere’s Honey-Pecan-Praline marinades. Believe me, they both did a great job, but neither of them added the “punch” like I wanted. So, I have kept on trying.

    Well folks, I think I have come up with what I wanted. Either recipe is a winner, but using them both on the same ham will result in by far the most fantastic tasting ham you will ever try.

    Please give both recipes a try! You will love the results! I hope too, it will become a “family tradition” like my Mom’s and my Grandma’s was in our family.

    Ingredients:

    1 Cup of Good clean water (if your city or well water has an offensive taste, please use bottled water)
    1 Cup of light Karo syrup (make sure it is light Karo brand syrup)
    1/8 Cup of Amaretto liqueur (use the real stuff it makes a difference)
    2 TBS of Watkins brand Butter Pecan extract (this is the only Butter-Pecan extract I could find)
    1 TBS of Rum extract (again, I used Watkins because of the better taste than store bought)
    1 tsp of Orange extract (this compliments the orange juice concentrate used in the glaze or basting sauce)
    1 to 2 TBS Vanilla extract (again, I used Watkins because of taste after the first run)

    Directions for blending:

    Into a medium size sauce pan add the water, Karo syrup and Amaretto. Stir frequently and heat very slowly to avoid scorching the sugars in the syrup.
    Then, add all the remaining ingredients and continue to stir and heat slowly. When the mix looks uniform in color and smooth, remove mix from the stove and allow it to cool to almost room temperature.




    Dr. Chicken’s Sweet Kiss of Death Injectable Marinade (continued)


    Directions for use:

    Wrap ham in 2 layers of plastic wrap before starting the injection process.


    Using a marinade hypodermic syringe, inject at least 2 fluid ozs. Per pound of meat in a grid pattern through out the entire ham and don’t be afraid to use up to 3 ounces per pound of meat.

    Continue to inject the marinade into the ham until the entire amount of marinade is injected evenly into the ham.

    Cook the ham as shown in the “Double Smoked Ham” recipe. Be sure to you your favorite wood for smoke flavoring.

    Do not cook the ham beyond 145° internal to prevent over cooking and drying out the ham.

    Enjoy this recipe and let me know what you think!

    Cheers,

    Dr. Chicken (aka: Dave Spence)
  • bobbyb
    bobbyb Posts: 1,349
    Jason,
    Here are a few more:
    *****************************
    City Ham
    Recipe courtesy Alton Brown
    Show: Good Eats
    Episode: Ham I Am
    1 city style (brined) ham, hock end*
    1/4 cup brown mustard
    2 cups dark brown sugar
    1-ounce bourbon (poured into a spritz bottle)
    2 cups crushed ginger snap cookies

    Heat oven to 250 degrees F.

    Remove ham from bag, rinse and drain thoroughly. Place ham, cut side down, in a roasting pan. Using a small paring knife or clean utility knife set to the smallest blade
    setting, score the ham from bottom to top, spiraling clockwise as you cut. (If you're using a paring knife, be careful to only cut through the skin and first few layers of fat).
    Rotate the ham after each cut so that the scores are no more than 2-inches across. Once you've made it all the way around, move the knife to the other hand and repeat,
    spiraling counter clockwise. The aim is to create a diamond pattern all over the ham. (Don't worry too much about precision here.)

    Tent the ham with heavy duty foil, insert a thermometer, and cook for 3 to 4 hours or until the internal temperature at the deepest part of the meat registers 130 degrees F.

    Remove and use tongs to pull away the diamonds of skin and any sheets of fat that come off with them.

    Heat oven to 350 degrees F.

    Dab dry with paper towels, then brush on a liberal coat of mustard, using either a basting brush or a clean paint brush (clean as in never-touched paint). Sprinkle on brown sugar,
    packing loosely as you go until the ham is coated. Spritz this layer lightly with bourbon, then loosely pack on as much of the crushed cookies as you can.

    Insert the thermometer (don't use the old hole) and return to the oven (uncovered). Cook until interior temperature reaches 140 degrees F, approximately 1 hour.

    Let the roast rest for 1/2 hour before carving.

    *Cook's note: A city ham is basically any brined ham that's packed in a plastic bag, held in a refrigerated case and marked "ready to cook", "partially cooked" or "ready to serve".
    Better city hams are also labeled "ham in natural juices".
    ***********************************
    Cola-Baked Ham With Cherry-Orange Glaze
    Recipe courtesy Emeril Lagasse, 2003
    Show: Emeril Live
    Episode: Mardi Gras Open House
    Cola-Baked Ham With Cherry-Orange Glaze
    1 (12 to 15-pound) fully cooked bone-in ham
    1 teaspoon ground allspice
    1 (2-liter) bottle cola
    3/4 cup cherry preserves or jelly
    1/4 cup fresh orange juice
    2 tablespoons orange flavored liqueur (recommended: Grand Marnier)
    Biscuits or dinner rolls, accompaniment
    Creole mustard, accompaniment

    Preheat oven to 325 degrees F.

    Trim rind and excess fat from the ham, leaving a 1/4-inch thick layer of fat. With a sharp knife, score the fat in a diamond pattern. Place the ham in large
    roasting pan and sprinkle with the allspice. Pour the cola into the pan and bake uncovered 1 hour and 15 minutes, basting every 15 minutes with the pan juices.

    Meanwhile, in a medium saucepan, combine the cherry preserves, orange juice, and liqueur over medium heat and cook, stirring, until melted, 1 to 2 minutes.

    Remove the ham from the oven and brush the top and sides with the cherry glaze. Return the ham to the oven and bake, brushing with pan juices and glaze
    every 15 minutes and tenting the ham with foil if browning too quickly, until an instant-read thermometer inserted into the thickest part of ham without touching
    the bone registers 140 degrees F, about 15 to 30 minutes.

    Remove the ham from oven and let rest for 30 minutes to 1 hour before slicing. Serve warm or at room temperature, thinly sliced, with biscuits or dinner rolls
    and mustard to make sandwiches.

    ************************************************
  • deepsouth
    deepsouth Posts: 1,796
    thank you bobbyb!
  • you can't go wrong with the dr. chicken's recipe...i usually don't do the injection, just cause i'm lazy, but simply buying a pre-cooked grocery store ham, doing the heavy smoke job and the glaze, and it turns it into something very, very special. ...i do one every year at thanksgiving, along with my turkey, and everyone raves about it.. ..that glaze is fantastic. .. . and i do mean go heavy on the smoke. .. i usually use a combination of apple/cherry/hickory chunks. .. enough smoke that people come over to make sure i'm not burning down the house. ...
  • Bordello
    Bordello Posts: 5,926
    I had dinner with friends of my friends a few years ago, they served a Smithfield ham that was not salty.

    I tried one and it was salty, I don't know how they did it but think they may have soaked it with a few water changes. Any thoughts? I seem to mostly like salty beer and melons but not food. Go figure.

    Regards,
    Bordello
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    it freezes real well too, great for other dishes later on. ham and scalloped potatoes, colcannon, slow cooked green beans, pea soup, etc. the problem with the injection is getting all the ingrediants, seems like i have to substitute something everytime.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • its funny, i used to always buy the smithfield "hardwood smoked" hams at the safeway and do the 'dr. chicken's' glaze on them with good success. ...then two years ago i was late getting the to safeway and they were all out of them, so i had to go with their brand, the safeway "butchers" brand 'butt portion harwood smoked' ham. ... prepped it the way i always did the other ham, by smearing it first with a combination of a whole jar of grey poupon mustard and about a cup of brown sugar, smoking it heavy, then for the last hour applying the dr. chicken's glaze ... . it was fantastic!!!. .. been doing the butchers brand ham ever since . . .and they have been consistently moist and full of great flavor. ...
  • gotcha on the injection. ...i love that glaze though. ...
  • Bordello
    Bordello Posts: 5,926
    Thanks Max, I will keep that one in mind. Appreciate the info.

    Cheers,
    Bordello