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butt emergency
GigEmEggs
Posts: 23
daughters b-day party tonight - 6pm
start 2 8lb butts - 10:00pm last night -stable 300dome
off to bed - 12:30am - stable 245dome
wake up - 6:00am - 150 dome - 140internal
6:30am fire is now back to 250dome
trash?
start 2 8lb butts - 10:00pm last night -stable 300dome
off to bed - 12:30am - stable 245dome
wake up - 6:00am - 150 dome - 140internal
6:30am fire is now back to 250dome
trash?
Comments
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I think you may be OK, it's hard to say cuz it sounds like your temp was fallling pretty fast when you went to bed (a 55 degree drop in 2.5 hours is a lot). There is no way of knowing how long your egg was at 150, & 140 internal is a faily low temp to leave a lump o' pork for extended periods of time; this scenerio has never happened to me so I will leave the advice on w/n to pitch it to someone else, however, think about a guru for the 20 hours low & slows, takes all the guess work out & you can sleep better, otherwise, don't leave your egg when it's dropping that quickly, stabilize your temp so you have the same temp for that 2.5 hour period before you call it a night, you will then have much less chance of a huge drop like that - good luck Kid - Zippyhappy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
If you think the temperature was allowed to stay between 40° and 140° for more than 4 hours, it violated the safety rule. Sounds to me like you just got in under the wire. Good luck.
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temp dropped to 250 right after 16 lbs of cold meat on... pegged at 245-250from 10:15-12:15 when i went to bed...i thought it was a perfect fire
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Dyna, for my own future reference, are you saying if it had gone below 140 dome or 140 internal is the danger zone?happy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
Internal meat temp. Evidently that temp range is where the bugs can survive. Once the meat gets over 140° they all get burnt off, and it's out of danger.
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ok I misunderstood your initial post. There are many factors that could have caused your drop (or in other cases a spike which has happened to me) in temp including how clean the firebox is, lump size, lump placement, type of lump, wind, settings on the top/bottom... & again it's because all of these that I was never able to stabilize the egg for long smokes (w/o occassional adjustments, every few hours...), being the lazy SOB I am, I got the guru. But it sounds like you are OK according to Dyna so chalk it up as experience - I would certainly get that temp back up asap in any eventhappy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
By the way, how'd those chili rellenos (sp?) turn out last evening?
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im still at 250dome since 6:30, thats 30mins now, should i bump it up more?
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If i'm reading this correctly, you shouldn't have been at 140 internal when you went to bed at 12:30 after being on for only 2 hours. So , that means your temp had to rise up to 140, then go back down to 140 in 5 1/2 hours. I would cook em.
best
allen -
You're good to go on these.....External temp. never got below 150 degrees!
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Your original schedule gave you 20 hours till splashdown which is the perfect amount of time to do your cook - with the set back, you may have lost a little time because now that you are stabilized, it will move towards the plateau fairly fast, but of course it will then spend a considerable period of time there, so you may want to add 10 or so degrees to make up for the difference, if you then come in early, you can always wrap, wrap, & cooler it for a few hours & it'll be great -happy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
Sorry, but this in the wrong place:
Your original schedule gave you 20 hours till splashdown which is the perfect amount of time to do your cook - with the set back, you may have lost a little time because now that you are stabilized, it will move towards the plateau fairly fast, but of course it will then spend a considerable period of time there, so you may want to add 10 or so degrees to make up for the difference, if you then come in early, you can always wrap, wrap, & cooler it for a few hours & it'll be great -happy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
fantabulous - did you see the post, it should still be on the first page, they are a definite do-over, although next time I am puttin some meat in them
happy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
all this and my dog just ate my thermapen...mollyshark do you warranty that? sheesh
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I think I would just go back to bed. A hell of a start to your day.. :silly:You must master temp, smoke, and time to achive moisture, taste, and texture! Visit www.bubbatim.com for BRISKET HELP
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You're in good shape. I'd cook it at about 260F until it gets through the plateau, then, depending on time, I might push it up to 300F to finish. HTH.
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making a solid recovery now. thanks everyone for talking me through this. now 260dome, 175 internal. all thats left to do is finish my cornhole boards.
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the dome temp did not drop below 140, so the meat surface also did not. it should not be unsafe.
internal temp is not relevant in this case...ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
just to clarify...
internal temp is irrelevant in this case. bacteria are assumed to be present on the OUTSIDE due to contamination during slaughter. there are no bacteria internal to the meat unless it has been de-boned, or the surface has been seriously breached (injecting wouldn't be a big issue).
the dome temp did not drop below 150, and so there was never a condition here where the surface of the meat was between 40-140 (after his fire slowed down). bacteria multiply and produce toxin at 40-140. his dome was 150 or better, and bacteria could not then repopulate the meat and begin multiplying.
another thing to remember is that taking something to 140 or above doesn't un-do anything. if the surface of the meat had been between 40-140 for four hours, and bacteria had produced toxins, taking the meat back over 140 may kill the bacteria, but it leaves the toxin, which is not destroyed.ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
Thanks for the clarification.
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Try using "Charming"
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OK, "Charming"
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