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Successful Gasket Installation Without Adhesive?
I know there have been a bunch of unsuccessful gasket installation attempts, but I'm looking for the success stories. I plan on installing my gasket tomorrow and I was hoping for some encouragement.
I have a standard felt gasket and I would like to try installing it without the spray adhesive. The reason is because I think it will be easier to install a new gasket the next time without having to deal with the extra adhesive on the rim.
So, has anyone done this successfully, or do you think it's best to just go ahead with the adhesive.
Thanks,
Craig
I have a standard felt gasket and I would like to try installing it without the spray adhesive. The reason is because I think it will be easier to install a new gasket the next time without having to deal with the extra adhesive on the rim.
So, has anyone done this successfully, or do you think it's best to just go ahead with the adhesive.
Thanks,
Craig
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bot did you open a can of worms. I am in the same spot. I have decided to just wait. Why are you replacing your gasket?You must master temp, smoke, and time to achive moisture, taste, and texture! Visit www.bubbatim.com for BRISKET HELP
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i have replaced gaskets twice each, large and mini. never had one peel off, no spray,, once bge felt once something i got at a fireplace shop. both were peel and stick. let the lid sit for 24 hours, first cook or two at 350.. i did scrape sand scrape and use acetone and 70% ethyl alcohol... i was kind of obcessive about it. both times it was an all day affair.
good luck read the naked whiz first.
bill -
I decided to do it because I was doing some maintenance (and it was before I read all the recent posts about gasket nightmares).
I have a used Egg and my dad just built me a table to use instead of the nest. So, I decided to take off the dome, replace some of the nuts that were a little rusty, and replace the gasket that was pretty worn out.
I went ahead and scraped and cleaned the rim, and THEN looked at the forum. I'm always one step behind.
Like I said though, I have to believe that more people don't have problems than do. At least I hope so. -
Thanks Bill. That's just what I wanted to hear.
Yep, I scraped, and acetoned too. I'll give it a shot tomorrow without the spray. -
With the standard gasket I've never used adhesive other than the self stick and have never had one come loose. Like Bill said cleaning is the key. From what I've heard Nomex is another story.
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I justed put a nomex on an XL this past monday, let it cook last night at around 275 for two hours. Tonight cooked a steak, I think it was a steak,(I'll need to discuss that with the wife) at 375-400 and let it ride for about 1 hour at that temp. So far all is well.
Gordon -
I can relate. The littlel chef says that i am Mr Fix it.
It is a guy thang. Well old school says, If it ain't broke don't fix it. I am torn between both worlds. Bubba-izumYou must master temp, smoke, and time to achive moisture, taste, and texture! Visit www.bubbatim.com for BRISKET HELP -
Think the problem with the nomex is the adhesive tape letting go from the gasket. Followed the problems of others and decided to put on the old factory ones. Maybe in 6 years when I'm ready to do it again there will be other options but 6 years (and it wasn't bad yet) in my lazy opinion isnt bad.
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This is not hard at all and it isn’t an all day project. It took me less than 20 - 25 minutes to remove & replace a gasket on my medium.
Do not use Sandpaper or power tools there is no need and it voids the warranty. Sanding or using power flap sanders will change the surface match of the base/dome match. There are a couple of ways to easily and quickly remove and clean the gasket on a egg.
Use acetone for final clean but not for removing the old felt or adhesive. If you want or need help let me know and I will get some information to you.
It will be easier if the dome is off of the egg.
Replacing the gasket on a CLEAN surface. Take your felt gasket and remove a few inches the adhesive protective strip and begin the application. Do not stretch whatsoever when applying. When the ends meet I use a new razor blade or razor knife to get a good match. Should you cut short then put a small patch of gasket in the gasket. You do not want any gaps whatsoever. Repeat on the other side of the egg.
You should have some felt left over. Use that left over to put a seal up in the ceramic top. It will help with shutdown for a tight seal and will help keep the ceramic top from falling off.
Close the egg and let it sit. I have let the gasket sit for 5 hours and for more than 24 hours before using. Frankly I haven’t noticed any difference.
The very important next step is checking the alignment. If you can see any type of gap – do not use the egg. Adjust the dome. Perform the ‘Dollar Bill Test.’ Around the dome. If you have any easy or light pull spots, adjust the dome.
There is a video floating around urging folks to loosen the hinge bolts on the bands. Don’t Do It. Bands should be tightened to where the bolts bend.
The ‘cure’ theory. I feel it is an urban legend at best. With that said, it doesn’t hurt to keep the egg under 500° - 550°.
Good eggin, GG -
I've only replaced one and I got the gasket from BGE. It had the peel off one side and stick it down. No problems, Clean real good before hand, scrape and maybe a little acetone, then wipe down again real good. Then closed the lid for 24 hours. I don't know if I needed to do the last part but it worked. Good luck.
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On the four or so standard gaskets I installed, I used no spray adhesive. On the Nomex ones, I've I start out with the regular adhesive and once the backer melts off then I use the spray. If I were you I wouldn't use the spray unless the original fails.
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Pat,
My large is just over a year old, medium, small and mini less than 5 or so month old.
I have had 6.3 (had to put in a patch) gasket failures between the lg and medium.
After the first two I began to document what happened and the replacement.
It is looking like the failure is the adhesive membrane. I have no way of know the exact temp, but when the heat at the membrane approaches or goes above 475° the membrane liquefies. At somewhere about 900° the felt will begin to liquefy/melt.
Fortunately the vast majority of folks have no problem with their gaskets. However, some of us have problems. We need to figure out why or what we are doing wrong.
It is looking like failure mostly comes from a bad alignment – extremely hot air at the gasket or passing over the gasket. When I say gasket I am including the adhesive along with gasket. The old style of burping. Opening the dome just a little.
I spend the majority of the day trying to remove the adhesive membrane off of some Nomex without using chemical or heat. It is not coming off. I am going to try some other ideas tomorrow.
Any way that’s my 2¢ on this. -
Thanks Mike for the information.
I sure hate the idea of a double install of the gasket.
I spent quite a bit of time trying to remove the adhesive membrane from some Nomex. So far no luck. I can't even pull an end off.
I might try using some heat but I think that will get real uncomfortable real quick.
Kent -
Like I said Kent I have no experience with the nomex but after reading your's and others posts I decided to just put on the factory gasket. Guess I'm the lucky one because I've never had a gasket failure but with the table refinishing and swapping both eggs back and forth just decided to replace it because it was apart. Both eggs are about 7-8 years old. I'm a lazy old fart but I'll take 6 plus years anytime unless you finish your research sooner I'll stick with what has worked for me. BTW I do read all your testing posts and thanks because I'm to lazy to do it myself. If it helps with tests most of my cooks are low but at least twice a week there's a TRex involved or once a month a 500 plus clean. Hope this helps with the research.
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When I installed the Nomex I just put it on. Cook a few times at low temps. Cook a few burgers and keep the temps under 400. Once everything looks good then do a pizza or two at 550. Bye Bye backer.
Thats when it gets fun. I remove the Nomex and carefully lay it to the side. I then open up the dome and throw in a full load of charcoal. Add a few small bolts or nuts between the dome and base, then close the dome, put miss daisy off to the side, and open the lower vent fully. Come back in an hour and a half. Walla cleaned gasket surfaces. Remove the nuts and bolts and go to bed. Next morning clean the surfaces with Acetone and then a little spray adhesive on the egg and gasket that you saved, let it get tacky and reinstall. -
Pat,
Couple of questions.
What is your 500+ clean - how high does your temp go with this?
How are you doing your TRexing - the steps, times and temps, dome open or closed & vent settings?
How high is the lump in both firing's?
The way you are using your egg and no problems seems logical the felt gasket is fine in your situation. I would doubt you would ever need the nomex.
I would think on your old setup if you did the dollar bill test you would have had a good hard pull all around the egg.
It would be interesting to know what the dollar bill test is now with the change.
Thanks in adance for the help with this.
I am going to replace the gasket on my medium with felt just so I can be consistant with the tests. I need to do a few more before I stop.
Kent -
Mike,
That is a fantastic way to clean the surface.
A while back I posted a method of cleaning old gasket off. That method didn't use heat. It was fast and pretty easy.
This last medium failure - dome at 550° or so I opened it and took the pictures I posted this last week.
I closed and was just going to wait until the next day to remove and clean. At 500° I decided to clean the gasket while hot. I pulled the gasket off easily. Used a stiff putty knife and the adhesive membrane came off easily. That removal took maybe 8 to 12 minutes both top and bottom.
I am going to change out the large to nomex before the cold sets in. I am going to fire up the egg and let it sit at 500° with the dome proped open and the dome covered with the ceramic cover.
I am thinking this might be a very quick way to remove the old gasket.
I am not sure if the adhesive membrane on the Nomex is the same that is on the felt. If it is, the results will be the same with both gasket materials. The adhesive membrane fail's at a lower temp than the gasket material.
I need to see if I can find the temp specs on 3M 77.
Thanks for the post. It helped my thoughs on the high temp cleanning theory.
GG -
I'll try to answer them in order Kent and hope it helps. The clean will vary from 500 to 600 for 1 hour.
TRex (I love steak so at least 2x a week) will vary from 500 to 700 with alot of flames.
Lump on most cooks is at or above the fire box (not ring) unless overnighter.
Also Pizza's for the neighbors is a favorite and 3 out of 4 weeks at 500.
I do the dollar bill test out of habit when my wife gives me one so that would be once a month.
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just kidding but I do check both this way often as they both require different settings to maintain the same temps. Dont pay much attention to these as I know each egg is different even under the same circumstances. Don't know why but any gasket replacements I've done in the last 8 years were because I wanted to not that I needed to. Guess I'm the lucky one but I do make sure my alignment is good. -
LOL, my wife doesn't let me touch money or sharp knives.
Thank you, with what you said and what I am experiencing, I wouldn't expect you to have gasket problems.
Other than the 700° you are not getting the gasket area relative all that hot.
When you do the dollar bill test is there any spots that freely or have a very light tug - or most of the spots a medium to tough tug?
When measuring the temps the only time I could get (or the only time I got) a failure whe when the dome was at 700° for 8 minutes or so. This may be a little off as on this failure test I have the gap in the fire ring to inside diamater blocked.
I took a reading at the gasket level and the temp read of 460° ceramic & band. The felt read 456°. The felt is a soft surface so I am not sure if the felt reading was correct or not.
The air passing on the outside of the fire box and fire ring will somewhat act as an insulator to the egg ceramic itself. I am thinking the egg ceramic insulates or in some way is possibly somewhat of a heatsink for the adhesive/gasket.
Kent -
Well if this helps it happens alot more than than I care to admit too when you forget to close it down.
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