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Roux Experts

BENTE
BENTE Posts: 8,337
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
i am making a roux. and it is only the second one i have made. so i am making a double batch 2c flour 2c oil. is it going to make any diffrence that i am using bread flour instead of AP?

happy eggin

TB

Anderson S.C.

"Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

Tyrus Raymond Cobb

Comments

  • AZRP
    AZRP Posts: 10,116
    Good question, I'm guessing it will work alright. What are you going to do with all that roux? -RP
  • BENTE
    BENTE Posts: 8,337
    i am going to make gumbo and if it is good then the pains in the butt part is over...and i can make more using the stuff i like from this one......


    one more quick question the reserch i have done says it is supposed to look like the consistincy of wet sand mine looks way wetter than that.. i think it thickens up but the last time i made it i just winged it on the measuring and i guess i put too much flour and it ended up being a little thicker than peanut butter

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • Richard Fl
    Richard Fl Posts: 8,297
    I have not noticed a difference, however I only make it as needed. Usually 3/4 cup oil a nd 1 cup flour.

    Here is a paragraph from my gumbo recipe.

    Roux
    1 If doing the roux in a separate pot:--In the dutch oven or a heavy duty skillet, cast iron works best, heat up the oil slowly and whisk in the flour a 1/4 at a time. Bring heat up and whisk constantly. Careful not to burn. if it burns start over, a cheap investment. It will get to the color of peanut butter or a new shiney copper penny, 10-15 minutes. Mix 1/4 cup or so to the rest of the pot and stir slowly BE CAREFUL, THE HOT ROUX MAY SPLATTER. Stir slowly and let simmer for an hour or so, stir often as the gumbo may stick to the bottom and burn if left unattended. Enjoy!
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    this is what the roux looked like on my last gumbo cook. i follow chef wills recipe/technique.

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    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • BENTE
    BENTE Posts: 8,337
    no i did not make mine as dark... mine is about the color of some peanut butter.. still looks thin but it is cooling.. along with some shrimp stock so i can make a version of this:


    Stew, Gumbo, Seafood, Eula Mae's


    5 Tbs vegetable oil, divided
    1 lb medium-size fresh okra, trimmed and cut into 1/4-inch thick rounds, or one (16-ounce) package frozen sliced okra, thawed
    4 tsp distilled white vinegar
    1 cup all-purpose flour
    1 1/4 cups chopped yellow onions
    1 1/4 cup chopped green onions (green and white parts), divided
    1 garlic clove, minced
    2 cups seeded and chopped green bell pepper
    1 cup chopped celery
    2 Tbs chopped fresh parsley leaves, divided
    2 (16-ounce) cans whole tomatoes, with their liquid, chopped
    1 cup cubed boiled ham
    2 cups shrimp stock or water
    2 bay leaves
    2 sprigs fresh thyme
    1 Tbs Worcestershire sauce
    1 tsp TABASCO brand Original Pepper Sauce
    1 tsp salt
    1 lb medium-size shrimp, peeled and deveined
    1 lb lump crabmeat, picked over for shells and cartilage
    Hot cooked long-grain white rice



    1 Heat 3 tablespoons of the oil in a medium-size skillet (not a cast-iron skillet, because it will cause the okra to discolor) over medium heat. Add the okra and cook, stirring frequently, for about 30 minutes. Add the vinegar and cook until the okra is no longer ropey or slimy and is lightly browned, about 10 minutes. Remove from the heat and set aside.
    2 In a large, heavy pot or Dutch oven, heat the remaining 2 tablespoons oil over medium heat for 2 minutes and add the flour. Cook, stirring slowly and constantly, to make a dark brown roux. Add the yellow onions, 1 cup of the green onions, the garlic, bell peppers, celery, and 1 tablespoon of the parsley and cook, stirring often, until the vegetables are tender and lightly golden, about 10 minutes. Add the tomatoes, ham, okra, shrimp stock, bay leaves, thyme, Worcestershire, Tabasco, and salt. Reduce heat to medium-low and simmer, covered, for 45 minutes.
    3 Add the shrimp and crabmeat and simmer until the shrimp turn pink, 8 to 10 minutes. Remove and discard the bay leaves and thyme. Garnish with the remaining 1/4 cup green onions and 1 tablespoon parsley.
    4 Serve the gumbo over rice and pass additional Tabasco sauce at the table.


    Servings: 6

    Recipe Type
    Seafood

    Recipe Source
    Author: "Eula Mae's Cajun Kitchen"

    Source: Tabasco, 01/07/07

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • My roux preferences

    When I make a roux, I make it like my mother-in-law used to make it. Oil heated up on fairly high heat before you add the flour. I normally start out with a ratio of about 1 part flour to 3/4 parts oil but generally add a litte more flour at some point. The ratio is about right when a large stirring spoon will leave a trail through the roux that doesn't close immediately (parting of the Red Sea).

    I like a medium colored roux (peanut butter) for stews and a dark roux (milk chocolate) for gumbo. The darker the roux the nuttier the taste. Also do a quazi roux with butter and flour when making etouffee but it is a very light roux.
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
    How are you getting different color roux's?

    GG
  • Mike in Abita
    Mike in Abita Posts: 3,302
    The longer you cook one the darker they get.

    Here it is explained by Paul Prudhomme. http://www.chefpaul.com/roux.html
  • Mike in Abita
    Mike in Abita Posts: 3,302
    Shouldn't make any difference at all. I use AP but don't see why you couldn't use bread. I use one cup of flour to a little more than 3/4 cup oil. Maybe 7/8 cup. I find if I use a full cup of oil I'm skimming oil off the top of the pot before I serve it.

    Here is a link to the Paul Prudhomme site for roux. Consistancy should be like a thick mud pie. Not too watery, not too tight. http://www.chefpaul.com/recipes/making-a-roux.html

    I put my oil in the pot and heat it up to medium hot. I then add about 1/4 cup flour at a time until it is all incorporated stirring constantly and looks like a dark red brick. It is cooked past the peanut butter stage and before the black roux stage. Colors of rouxs as I know them are blonde, (think chicken fried steak greavy) peanut butter, dark brown, (think most gumbos) brick ( think dark red brick). Be very carful when attampting roux the way I do. It will burn the ever loving s*&t out of you if you get any of it on you. Most call it cajun napalm. I have a 14" metal roux spoon I use to make it with and know I am at the right stage as the handle is just about too hot to hold anymore.

    Nothing tastes as good as a well made gumbo. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
  • BENTE
    BENTE Posts: 8,337
    thanks mike i went to about peanut butter next time i will try your way i have saved the link thanks ;)

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • BENTE
    BENTE Posts: 8,337
    thanks frank i will try it next time.. the spoon leaving a trail was a part i missed.. i will thicken it (less oil) next time ;)

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb