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How to safely remove a bolt from the bands ... when the nut is shredded

Stormbringer
Stormbringer Posts: 2,469
edited November 7 in EggHead Forum
I've tightened the nut on the bands bolt so much it's free spinning. I've got another bolt and nut to replace it, but cannot work out how to get the original bolt off ... the nut turns but doesn't move. I've tried heavy duty bolt cutters on the bolt which scratched the surface but that's all. 


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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
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    Since you don't need to salvage the bolt, make sure you protect the ceramics...
    canuckland
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,552
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    Canugghead said:
    Since you don't need to salvage the bolt, make sure you protect the ceramics...

    with a grinder would be easy but the bolt cutter cutting the bolt where shown will also work.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
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    fishlessman said:
    Canugghead said:
    Since you don't need to salvage the bolt, make sure you protect the ceramics...

    with a grinder would be easy but the bolt cutter cutting the bolt where shown will also work.
    Agree, angle grinder is what I had in mind. Dremel would be my second choice since I don't have a bolt cutter.
    canuckland
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  • MaskedMarvel
    MaskedMarvel Posts: 3,417
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    Or a deep socket over the bolt and jam a pry or screwdriver under the head. I’m betting the bolt is stripped, not the nut on this. Power drill helps. 
    Large BGE and Medium BGE
    36" Blackstone - Greensboro!


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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,552
    Answer ✓
    Canugghead said:
    fishlessman said:
    Canugghead said:
    Since you don't need to salvage the bolt, make sure you protect the ceramics...

    with a grinder would be easy but the bolt cutter cutting the bolt where shown will also work.
    Agree, angle grinder is what I had in mind. Dremel would be my second choice since I don't have a bolt cutter.

    my bolt cutter has 6 foot handles, i dont think the jaws would fit in there. not even sure where it is right now as i never even look for it
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
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    Vice grips where the arrow points and loosen the nut
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
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    A bolt cutter has a good chance of bouncing, slipping, what have you... and damage the ceramics.
    canuckland
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
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    The problem is you possibly rounded the square hole in the band so run the new bolt in the opposite direction to get a fresh hole. Or vice grips and tight the bolt. Or if you know anyone with a electric impact gun you can tighten or loosen it as is.
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
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    Sorry I wasn’t paying attention,  if the nut or bolt is stripped and you absolutely can’t cut it off…. Go with the double nut. The old nut can ride the stripped threads and the second nut should stay on some threads, add a third behind it if you need to. Again sorry for not reading your post through I’ve had carriage bolts tear the square holes they should ride in and in thought that was what was happening here. 
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,449
    edited November 7 Answer ✓
    Looks to me like an easy approach is to carefully wedge a slotted screwdriver in between problem nut and what appears to be a washer and then as you turn the nut you apply force and gradually that might put enough pressure on said nut so it bites into any remaining thread and bites onto the good thread.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • Buckwoody Egger
    Buckwoody Egger Posts: 1,466
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    alaskanassasin said:
    Sorry I wasn’t paying attention,  if the nut or bolt is stripped and you absolutely can’t cut it off…. Go with the double nut. The old nut can ride the stripped threads and the second nut should stay on some threads, add a third behind it if you need to. Again sorry for not reading your post through I’ve had carriage bolts tear the square holes they should ride in and in thought that was what was happening here. 
    the additional nut on that thread would be my first try, sounds worth it.  

    might not be due to the spinning nut - but seems there a risk of the band releasing quickly if the bolt is cut?  i would probably try to find a way to lock it down a little with a ratchet strap or something. 
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,660
    Paging @fishlessman, @alaskanassasin and @kl8ton.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • Stormbringer
    Stormbringer Posts: 2,469
    Thanks folks 
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  • Stormbringer
    Stormbringer Posts: 2,469
    Problem temporarily solved until I can get some much better bolt cutters or an angle grinder. I tried @RRP suggestion but the nut still didn’t move, I saw that the bolt had stripped so can only assume the nut has too 🤷‍♂️ I went with the double nut approach until I can borrow some more effective hardware.


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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
    Looks like you somehow cross threaded the **** out of the second nut or something! 
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • Stormbringer
    Stormbringer Posts: 2,469
    alaskanassasin said:
    Looks like you somehow cross threaded the **** out of the second nut or something! 
    Yep no idea how. I took the old bolt out of the bottom bracket and replaced it with a new one, and used the old nut on the top bolt. At least it’s stable now. 
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  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
    Stormbringer said:
    alaskanassasin said:
    Looks like you somehow cross threaded the **** out of the second nut or something! 
    Yep no idea how. I took the old bolt out of the bottom bracket and replaced it with a new one, and used the old nut on the top bolt. At least it’s stable now. 
    That makes sense the bottom nut threads were ruined from tightening the bottom bolt.  Another option would be to just take the bands off and have a local shop or neighbor cut the bolt at they place. Or buy a cheap hack saw from a hardware store.
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
    Another idea - get a tight grip, tug and turn carefully. Make 1/6 turn, release, rinse and repeat.

    canuckland
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