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OT- FORMULA 1 LENOVO CHINESE GRAND PRIX 2024; 4/18-21 OT

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lousubcap
lousubcap Posts: 32,468
Race schedule below.  All times EDT.  Sprint weekend.  Broadcast channels listed.

21APR

Race

03:00 (ESPN)

20APR

Qualifying

03:00 - 04:00 (ESPN2)

19APR

Sprint

23:00 - 00:00. (ESPNU)

19APR

Sprint Qualifying

03:30 - 04:14 (ESPN2)

18APR

Practice 1

23:30 - 00:30 (ESPNU)

Shanghai International Circuit

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Once again- DVR for the win.  
Enjoy!
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    Looking forward to this, especially with an eye towards 2025 driver shuffle.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    Here are the first ten places on the Sprint grid for the Sprint race this PM:  Rain had quite an impact on Q 3. 
    POSNODRIVERCARTIME
    14Lando NorrisMCLAREN MERCEDES1:57.940
    244Lewis HamiltonMERCEDES1:59.201
    314Fernando AlonsoASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES1:59.915
    41Max VerstappenRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT2:00.028
    555Carlos SainzFERRARI2:00.214
    611Sergio PerezRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT2:00.375
    716Charles LeclercFERRARI2:00.566
    881Oscar PiastriMCLAREN MERCEDES2:00.990
    977Valtteri BottasKICK SAUBER FERRARI2:01.044
    1024Zhou GuanyuKICK SAUBER FERRARI2:03.537
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    Should be a fun to watch race.  Based on the track surface, chance of rain, and Lando and Lewis starting P1&P2
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    Here are the points winners for the Sprint:
    POSNODRIVERCARLAPSTIME/RETIREDPTS
    11Max VerstappenRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT1932:04.6608
    244Lewis HamiltonMERCEDES19+13.043s7
    311Sergio PerezRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT19+15.258s6
    416Charles LeclercFERRARI19+17.486s5
    555Carlos SainzFERRARI19+20.696s4
    64Lando NorrisMCLAREN MERCEDES19+22.088s3
    781Oscar PiastriMCLAREN MERCEDES19+24.713s2
    863George RussellMERCEDES19+25.696s1

    There was some great racing for the last spot on the podium.
    Verstappen and his car are the class of the grid, gaining an average of 0.7 seconds per lap.  

    And here are the starting positions for the race:
    POSNODRIVERCARQ1Q2Q3LAPS
    11Max VerstappenRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT1:34.7421:33.7941:33.66018
    211Sergio PerezRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT1:35.4571:34.0261:33.98219
    314Fernando AlonsoASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES1:35.1161:34.6521:34.14815
    44Lando NorrisMCLAREN MERCEDES1:34.8421:34.4601:34.16515
    581Oscar PiastriMCLAREN MERCEDES1:35.0141:34.6591:34.27316
    616Charles LeclercFERRARI1:34.7971:34.3991:34.28920
    755Carlos SainzFERRARI1:34.9701:34.3681:34.29717
    863George RussellMERCEDES1:35.0841:34.6091:34.43320
    927Nico HulkenbergHAAS FERRARI1:35.0681:34.6671:34.60421
    1077Valtteri BottasKICK SAUBER FERRARI1:35.1691:34.7691:34.66515
    1118Lance StrollASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES1:35.3341:34.83812
    123Daniel RicciardoRB HONDA RBPT1:35.4431:34.93412
    1331Esteban OconALPINE RENAULT1:35.3561:35.22315
    1423Alexander AlbonWILLIAMS MERCEDES1:35.3841:35.24114
    1510Pierre GaslyALPINE RENAULT1:35.2871:35.46315
    1624Zhou GuanyuKICK SAUBER FERRARI1:35.5058
    1720Kevin MagnussenHAAS FERRARI1:35.5166
    1844Lewis HamiltonMERCEDES1:35.5736
    1922Yuki TsunodaRB HONDA RBPT1:35.7469
    202Logan SargeantWILLIAMS MERCEDES1:36.3587

    Absent any issues Verstappen will cruise to victory.  Hopefully some good down grid wheel-to-wheel racing.
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    I have much to learn.  Didn’t realize they qualified for position in the sprint race?  Then the sprint race determines starting grid for Sunday?  This F1 stuff is complicated and don’t get me started on DRS.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    @Ozzie_Isaac - The Sprint qualifying and Race supplant Practice 2 and 3 of the race weekend.  Basically every F1 race weekend comprises 3 days of two hours (+/-) of racing.  Non sprint weekends have two (one hour each) practice sessions on Friday (time zone of the race), final practice (one hour) and then race qualifying (one hour) on Saturday and the race Sunday. Each session on Friday and Saturday are scheduled around 4 hours apart.  
    With the Sprint ( 6 this season and China leading off and roughly 1/3 of the laps of the full race) ) the format changes to one practice Friday, then the Sprint qualifying Friday, Sprint race Saturday followed by race qualifying Saturday then the race Sunday.  
    Schedule above adjusted for the time zones lays it out.  
    Next up Miami  (with a Sprint) KY Derby Weekend-schedule below- (Times EDT)

    05MAY

    Race

    16:00

    04MAY

    Qualifying

    16:00 - 17:00

    04MAY

    Sprint

    12:00 - 13:00

    03MAY

    Sprint Qualifying

    16:30 - 17:14

    03MAY

    Practice 1

    12:30 - 13:30

    Just google DRS (Drag Reduction System) as you will immediately comprehend.  

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    @lousubcap so they have a sprint race for points, then still qualify for the main again?

    This is like when I used to pit for a friend running the local 3/8 mile track.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    You've got it re the points.  Go 8 deep with the Sprint-10 for the full monty.  
    Given the length of the season I'm surprised with the back to back Sprints on the calendar.  Always remember It's all about the $$ and eyeballs on the product.  China and a Sprint after not racing there since 2019 made sense-Miami and the $$ drives that one.  
    Here are the Sprint races for 2024:
    China and Miami make the Sprint line up for the first time, joining Austin and Qatar which both return to host their second Sprint events. Austria (hosting their third) and Brazil (hosting their fourth) complete the exciting 2024 F1 Sprint roster.
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    Here are the top ten following today's F1 race:
    POSNODRIVERCARLAPSTIME/RETIREDPTS
    11Max VerstappenRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT561:40:52.55425
    24Lando NorrisMCLAREN MERCEDES56+13.773s18
    311Sergio PerezRED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT56+19.160s15
    416Charles LeclercFERRARI56+23.623s12
    555Carlos SainzFERRARI56+33.983s10
    663George RussellMERCEDES56+38.724s8
    714Fernando AlonsoASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES56+43.414s7
    881Oscar PiastriMCLAREN MERCEDES56+56.198s4
    944Lewis HamiltonMERCEDES56+57.986s2
    1027Nico HulkenbergHAAS FERRARI56+60.476s1

    On to Miami May 3-5. Separate thread to follow.   (KY Derby weekend).  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    Lando only being 13s back seems like a good result.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,468
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    Well, that gap was as narrow as it was due to two safety car incidents in the latter half of the race.  Once that happens, the field closes up while following the safety car until the safety car pulls off the track.
    With a virtual safety car (VSC), the car spacing remains the same as it was when the VSC was initiated (nominally 30-40% of race speed) as everyone is moving at the same pace.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,360
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    Prior to the Miami event some of you might want to give this a look - 

    Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League - A2RL on April 27th.

    Could well be interesting in a serious way or turn out to be rather comical. Regardless, I'll give it two years before the racing overlord "robocars" can beat Verstappen. Or, maybe in two years they'll all still just be crashing into each other at the start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjuoHqlEvLg&pp=ygUiYWJ1IGRoYWJpIGF1dG9ub21vdXMgcmFjaW5nIGxlYWd1ZQ%3D%3D

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,175
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    HeavyG said:
    Prior to the Miami event some of you might want to give this a look - 

    Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League - A2RL on April 27th.

    Could well be interesting in a serious way or turn out to be rather comical. Regardless, I'll give it two years before the racing overlord "robocars" can beat Verstappen. Or, maybe in two years they'll all still just be crashing into each other at the start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjuoHqlEvLg&pp=ygUiYWJ1IGRoYWJpIGF1dG9ub21vdXMgcmFjaW5nIGxlYWd1ZQ%3D%3D

    I am not sure when AI will become faster in all scenarios, but it seems fairly difficult task.  Here is an interesting video detailing attempts at a world record for a game called "Trackmania".  It is fairly interesting look at AI and racing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw3BZ6O_8LY
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
  • Mark_B_Good
    Mark_B_Good Posts: 1,525
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    You mean due to the safety car incidents, Max was unable to lap half the field, and even lap some of the top 10 (point makers)?  It's getting boring ....
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