OT: saw question :OT

RRP · March 2021

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction and normally in a short time then turning bowls and bud vases as gifts gives me pleasure and allows creativity...but if I screw up it's no great loss.

Mattman3969 · March 2021

nolaegghead said:

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

@nolaegghead - have them pay close attention to the belt track adjusters. I used to run 2 of those sanders in a cabinet shop and the only complaint I had was the belt tracking was a b/tch to keep adjusted properly.

nolaegghead · March 2021

@bubbajack is the master with hand tools. I'll never achieve his skill level with complex hand joinery. You can make various dovetail joints without an expensive Incra rig if you know what you're doing.

nolaegghead · March 2021

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction and normally in a short time then turning bowls and bud vases as gifts gives me pleasure and allows creativity...but if I screw up it's no great loss.

Lathes are fun. I don't incorporate spindles in my woodwork, but if I did I would use it more often. There's a rabbit hole with bowl/vase turning that is deep and can be expensive. Chunks of burl will sell by the pound for more money than you spend with SRF.

Less expensive with wood costs - pen making. You can also make some beautiful drumsticks, chopsticks, oar handles, etc.

nolaegghead · March 2021

I have a Jet mini-lathe, but also have the extension on it so I can turn up to 4 feet long. Limited on the diameter to maybe 12 inches.

Botch · March 2021

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction...

A lathe is the one tool I'd love to have, but I just don't have the space anymore. Sure looks like fun.

nolaegghead · March 2021

Botch said:

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction...

A lathe is the one tool I'd love to have, but I just don't have the space anymore. Sure looks like fun.

Do you have enough land that's appropriate enough to build a shed? I just talked to my buddy Henrik....he's building a 15 x 25' insulated shed with AC. Mostly for storage and his motorcycles, but it would make a great woodworking shop.

alaskanassasin · March 2021

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

nolaegghead · March 2021

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

Been there. "Why is it so warm all of a sudden?"

You can't see fire very well through a 12 shade filter.

CTMike · March 2021

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction and normally in a short time then turning bowls and bud vases as gifts gives me pleasure and allows creativity...but if I screw up it's no great loss.

Agreed Ron. I picked up the Laguna 18-36 last year and have been having a blast with it. My brother-in-law works for a landscaper/tree service and has been grabbing me burls right and left. Waiting for them to dry is killing me.

nolaegghead · March 2021

CTMike said:

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction and normally in a short time then turning bowls and bud vases as gifts gives me pleasure and allows creativity...but if I screw up it's no great loss.

Agreed Ron. I picked up the Laguna 18-36 last year and have been having a blast with it. My brother-in-law works for a landscaper/tree service and has been grabbing me burls right and left. Waiting for them to dry is killing me.

You can actually make a vacuum kiln to dry small pieces for around $500.

You probably already know this, but don't cut wet wood with your sawstop.

http://vacuumkilndrying.com/faq.html

fishlessman · March 2021

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

scissor lift batteries exploding, some dummy piped a 3 inch gas line with cast iron fittings(you know there was no handle on the shutoff), lint (beware of lint floating in the air, it will take out whole rooms), dont have a red clugnut fall into your pants and burn your ...... while 40 feet up a ladder, thats the funniest one ive seen.

bubbajack · March 2021

CTMike said:

RRP said:

One tool I love in my workshop, yet haven't seen a mention here is my lathe. Talk about satisfaction and normally in a short time then turning bowls and bud vases as gifts gives me pleasure and allows creativity...but if I screw up it's no great loss.

Agreed Ron. I picked up the Laguna 18-36 last year and have been having a blast with it. My brother-in-law works for a landscaper/tree service and has been grabbing me burls right and left. Waiting for them to dry is killing me.

You can rough turn them green, say to about 1 inch in wall thickness. Keep all the shavings and store the rough turn in a black plastic bag with all the shavings inside and outside the bowl. Let it sit for a couple months. Then you can finish turning. People also use PEG to stabilize the wood. I like polymerized tung oil as a finish as well.

RRP · March 2021

Last Fall I discovered that a nice maple tree that had fallen in my woods had started to spalt. So I started cutting it into 2 foot and then 3 foot sections to see how far the spalting had gone. I now have 24 foot of spalted wood air drying. I also have some spalted birch for turning some smaller pieces. I love "found" wood rather than paying for it!

alaskanassasin · March 2021

fishlessman said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

scissor lift batteries exploding, some dummy piped a 3 inch gas line with cast iron fittings(you know there was no handle on the shutoff), lint (beware of lint floating in the air, it will take out whole rooms), dont have a red clugnut fall into your pants and burn your ...... while 40 feet up a ladder, thats the funniest one ive seen.

I had a Stihl backpack blower on my work bench that would not start, naturally the first thing I check is spark, about this time my boss walks out of the shop for whatever reason.

I take the plug out, hook it back up to the cap, ground it on the top of the cylinder and ripped the cord like hell. Well it was apparently flooded beyond belief as spewing mixed gas and fire shot all over the shop like a volcano erupting as the flywheel carried the momentum.

Flaming gas puddles on everything I used a fire extinguisher to its full potential covering everything in white powder, about that time my boss walks back in, you can imagine the look on his face.

CTMike · March 2021

@ryantt,

Also when you start getting your big machines, coat all the cast iron surfaces with Johnson’s Paste Wax to prevent rust and help the wood slide. Put on a thin coat and wipe off as much of the excess as you can.

The other option is buy a can of T-9 Boeshield and spray on a thin coating.

nolaegghead · March 2021

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

scissor lift batteries exploding, some dummy piped a 3 inch gas line with cast iron fittings(you know there was no handle on the shutoff), lint (beware of lint floating in the air, it will take out whole rooms), dont have a red clugnut fall into your pants and burn your ...... while 40 feet up a ladder, thats the funniest one ive seen.

I had a Stihl backpack blower on my work bench that would not start, naturally the first thing I check is spark, about this time my boss walks out of the shop for whatever reason.

I take the plug out, hook it back up to the cap, ground it on the top of the cylinder and ripped the cord like hell. Well it was apparently flooded beyond belief as spewing mixed gas and fire shot all over the shop like a volcano erupting as the flywheel carried the momentum.

Flaming gas puddles on everything I used a fire extinguisher to its full potential covering everything in white powder, about that time my boss walks back in, you can imagine the look on his face.

The year is 2069. Survival in this hostile world when outside the bunker is wholly dependent on the Fisher-Price LifePak(tm) backpack filtration system. If it fails, you have 5 minutes to live.

Having a Ryobi 2-stroke engine to drive the ion-exchange membrane, the Fisher-Price system was notorious for failing. The carburetor was a flawed design where the accelerator pump diaphragm often leaked fuel. The carb was positioned directly over the spark plug, and the plug assembly was covered by a Faraday mesh to keep the electromagnetic signature from detection by the roving gangs of cannibal marauders. Between the Faraday mesh, leaking diaphram and spark plug wire, it was a terrible design.

It wasn't uncommon to see a guy screaming silently into his environment helmet while his LifePak(tm) was burning fiercely.

At night, the ice weasels came.

CTMike · March 2021

nolaegghead said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

scissor lift batteries exploding, some dummy piped a 3 inch gas line with cast iron fittings(you know there was no handle on the shutoff), lint (beware of lint floating in the air, it will take out whole rooms), dont have a red clugnut fall into your pants and burn your ...... while 40 feet up a ladder, thats the funniest one ive seen.

I had a Stihl backpack blower on my work bench that would not start, naturally the first thing I check is spark, about this time my boss walks out of the shop for whatever reason.

I take the plug out, hook it back up to the cap, ground it on the top of the cylinder and ripped the cord like hell. Well it was apparently flooded beyond belief as spewing mixed gas and fire shot all over the shop like a volcano erupting as the flywheel carried the momentum.

Flaming gas puddles on everything I used a fire extinguisher to its full potential covering everything in white powder, about that time my boss walks back in, you can imagine the look on his face.

The year is 2069. Survival in this hostile world when outside the bunker is wholly dependent on the Fisher-Price LifePak(tm) backpack filtration system. If it fails, you have 5 minutes to live.

Having a Ryobi 2-stroke engine to drive the ion-exchange membrane, the Fisher-Price system was notorious for failing. The carburetor was a flawed design where the accelerator pump diaphragm often leaked fuel. The carb was positioned directly over the spark plug, and the plug assembly was covered by a Faraday mesh to keep the electromagnetic signature from detection by the roving gangs of cannibal marauders. Between the Faraday mesh, leaking diaphram and spark plug wire, it was a terrible design.

It wasn't uncommon to see a guy screaming silently into his environment helmet while his LifePak(tm) was burning fiercely.

At night, the ice weasels came.

I want to try some of what your smoking, but unfortunately it would probably cause me to pop positive on a piss test at work.

nolaegghead · March 2021

Believe it or not, this is me totally sober.

Botch · March 2021

NOLA, that was beautiful and insightful prose. :thumbsup:

ryantt · March 2021

@nolaegghead thank you for taking the time to chat. You’ve given me tons to think about.

RRP · March 2021

ryantt said:

@nolaegghead thank you for taking the time to chat. You’ve given me tons to think about.

LOL...I hope Nola also told you he was sending you a few “spare coins” ($20-$30k for starters) since he got you head buzzing!

Seriously you really can get into deep VERY quickly!

TEXASBGE2018 · March 2021

I'm going to go against the grain here (pun intended) and tell you don't spend a ton of money at first. Make sure you will enjoy the hobby before you sink thousands into tools which is very easy to do. For your power tools I would stick with 1 brand if possible to be able to use the same batteries. To start I would get:

1 Set of entry level chisels(Irwin)
Wooden mallet
Clamps
Cordless jigsaw (Dewalt)
Cordless circular saw (Dewalt)
Orbital Sander (Dewalt)
Clamps
Cordless Drill (Dewalt)
A decent bench plane (look for an older Stanley if you can find one)
Ryoba Japanese hand saw
A decent set of calipers
Did I mention Clamps?
A good size workbench (Heck this can be your 1st project)
oh ya and Clamps

With this basic set of tools you can do a ton of awesome stuff. Start off with a small project, something simple. Not sure if you know who Nick Offerman is but he has a great book called "Good clean fun" about woodworking that has some simple projects in it. Try that out. Once you get a feel for what you like to craft THEN go buy your crazy expensive $3,500 Jet or Delta Lathes and your fancy sawdust removal systems with your festool routers and your $350 Lie Nielsen bench planes. A lot of the tools I mentioned above can be used around the house too so there is that advantage.

ryantt · March 2021

Thanks @TEXASBGE2018 for the advise. I’ve got a few ideas and look forward to starting...also Nick Offerman is amazing. I’ve watched a few of his videos on basics and they were amazing.

Buckwoody Egger · March 2021

The year is 2069.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KTebUT6Mw

HeavyG · March 2021

nolaegghead said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

alaskanassasin said:

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

@CTMike Nice shop! I'm jelly of your Powermatics.

I actually ordered a 2nd dust extractor last night. The Festool CT15 has been out of stock everywhere so I ordered the smaller Fein with a 5.9G tank. I need it for my Gretna shop where I keep all my wood - I try to rough cut it there and then bring to my house shop where I have the beast Festool CT26.

I have a couple big shop dust collectors....one is the Grizzly and the other a cheaper HF

Need to plumb those up to the big tools.

Metal working stuff is another rabbit hole. I have to admit that I'm pretty diversified on shop equipment.

I'm trying to get a Grizzly drum sander re-furbed that I bought on CL. That will be a nice addition.

saw dust and welding, what could possibly go wrong

for osha one year i had to train the welders about fire safety, i had the firedept send over sparky the fire dog and the first grader cartoons and we all got certified for osha. was disappointing that sparky didnt dress up for the part.

Nothing better that laying a good bead and flipping your helmet up to find that everything around you is on fire.

scissor lift batteries exploding, some dummy piped a 3 inch gas line with cast iron fittings(you know there was no handle on the shutoff), lint (beware of lint floating in the air, it will take out whole rooms), dont have a red clugnut fall into your pants and burn your ...... while 40 feet up a ladder, thats the funniest one ive seen.

I had a Stihl backpack blower on my work bench that would not start, naturally the first thing I check is spark, about this time my boss walks out of the shop for whatever reason.

I take the plug out, hook it back up to the cap, ground it on the top of the cylinder and ripped the cord like hell. Well it was apparently flooded beyond belief as spewing mixed gas and fire shot all over the shop like a volcano erupting as the flywheel carried the momentum.

Flaming gas puddles on everything I used a fire extinguisher to its full potential covering everything in white powder, about that time my boss walks back in, you can imagine the look on his face.

The year is 2069. Survival in this hostile world when outside the bunker is wholly dependent on the Fisher-Price LifePak(tm) backpack filtration system. If it fails, you have 5 minutes to live.

Having a Ryobi 2-stroke engine to drive the ion-exchange membrane, the Fisher-Price system was notorious for failing. The carburetor was a flawed design where the accelerator pump diaphragm often leaked fuel. The carb was positioned directly over the spark plug, and the plug assembly was covered by a Faraday mesh to keep the electromagnetic signature from detection by the roving gangs of cannibal marauders. Between the Faraday mesh, leaking diaphram and spark plug wire, it was a terrible design.

It wasn't uncommon to see a guy screaming silently into his environment helmet while his LifePak(tm) was burning fiercely.

At night, the ice weasels came.

Did you write the technical script for this...?

https://youtu.be/aW2LvQUcwqc

nolaegghead · March 2021

God no. All my facts are encased in matrices of plausible verisimilitude.

fishlessman · March 2021

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I'm going to go against the grain here (pun intended) and tell you don't spend a ton of money at first. Make sure you will enjoy the hobby before you sink thousands into tools which is very easy to do. For your power tools I would stick with 1 brand if possible to be able to use the same batteries. To start I would get:

1 Set of entry level chisels(Irwin)
Wooden mallet
Clamps
Cordless jigsaw (Dewalt)
Cordless circular saw (Dewalt)
Orbital Sander (Dewalt)
Clamps
Cordless Drill (Dewalt)
A decent bench plane (look for an older Stanley if you can find one)
Ryoba Japanese hand saw
A decent set of calipers
Did I mention Clamps?
A good size workbench (Heck this can be your 1st project)
oh ya and Clamps

With this basic set of tools you can do a ton of awesome stuff. Start off with a small project, something simple. Not sure if you know who Nick Offerman is but he has a great book called "Good clean fun" about woodworking that has some simple projects in it. Try that out. Once you get a feel for what you like to craft THEN go buy your crazy expensive $3,500 Jet or Delta Lathes and your fancy sawdust removal systems with your festool routers and your $350 Lie Nielsen bench planes. A lot of the tools I mentioned above can be used around the house too so there is that advantage.

i have a boat about 90 percent done and thats pretty much all i used. i did add a few fancy chisels for contouring and a staple gun. didnt have cordless and went for a fancier bosch jigsaw

nolaegghead · March 2021

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I'm going to go against the grain here (pun intended) and tell you don't spend a ton of money at first. Make sure you will enjoy the hobby before you sink thousands into tools which is very easy to do. For your power tools I would stick with 1 brand if possible to be able to use the same batteries. To start I would get:

1 Set of entry level chisels(Irwin)
Wooden mallet
Clamps
Cordless jigsaw (Dewalt)
Cordless circular saw (Dewalt)
Orbital Sander (Dewalt)
Clamps
Cordless Drill (Dewalt)
A decent bench plane (look for an older Stanley if you can find one)
Ryoba Japanese hand saw
A decent set of calipers
Did I mention Clamps?
A good size workbench (Heck this can be your 1st project)
oh ya and Clamps

With this basic set of tools you can do a ton of awesome stuff. Start off with a small project, something simple. Not sure if you know who Nick Offerman is but he has a great book called "Good clean fun" about woodworking that has some simple projects in it. Try that out. Once you get a feel for what you like to craft THEN go buy your crazy expensive $3,500 Jet or Delta Lathes and your fancy sawdust removal systems with your festool routers and your $350 Lie Nielsen bench planes. A lot of the tools I mentioned above can be used around the house too so there is that advantage.

All this stuff is mandatory, I just glossed over it.

You can use any old, strong table as a workbench (although I agree making one is a great first project - and fun).

With regard to the electric tools, there's no problem if they're corded too. In so far as brand goes, I don't think that really matters. What does is the battery chemistry if they're cordless - always get some kind of lithium chemistry (that's standard now). Avoid Ryobi, Craftsman and Porter-Cable. I have used all the major brands and I like Ridgid. But it really doesn't matter. Extra batteries, including some larger capacity (larger capacity = higher current capacity in almost all cases).

I would add to that a good straight edge, framing square of some sort, pencils and sharpener (or mechanical).

nolaegghead · March 2021

Wood glue - I only buy Titebond III by the gallon. You don't always need the water resistance, but it doesn't hurt to have it. Get some chip brushes and a squirt bottle or some syringes to apply it.

Kreg pocket joint jig is nice to have if you aren't going to be doing old-school end grain joinery.

Don't glue long grain to end grain and expect it to hold. Gluing long grain across long grain at 90 degrees is a bad idea. Wood expands mostly across the grain. Not so much along the grain. Creating stress by doing it wrong will cause stuff to warp, crack and fail.

You can permanently glue end grain to end grain with epoxy if you do it right.

Outdoor stuff needs a flexible finish - oil or spar. (Spar has UV protection). Or a solid opaque color works for UV.

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