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I did not brine my brisket šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

paqman
paqman Posts: 4,932
edited November 2019 in EggHead Forum
I decided just now that I’m cooking a piece of brisket tonight. I asked a week ago if I should brine or not and kinda decided that I would try a dry brine but... it did not happen. Ā I cut a 3 pounds piece of flat from a whole prime packer brisket and froze the remaining 5 pounds point/flat.

The question that kills, how long will a 3 pounds flat will take to cook at 200-250F? Ā At what temp should I pull? Ā My plan is to start it tonight and eat it for lunch tomorrow if it is ready and for diner if it is not. Ā I know 3 pounds is small so I’m wondering if I should start it tomorrow morning instead?

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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    Purchased from Costco two weeks ago and has been sitting in the fridge since then



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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    Froze the remaining piece of point/flat



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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    That’s the 3 pounds piece that I want to cook now



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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    After applying mustard and rub



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  • If you’re having bad results on brisket and you’re cutting off 3# pieces of the flat to cook, I think I can help diagnose your problem. Ā 
  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    If you’re having bad results on brisket and you’re cutting off 3# pieces of the flat to cook, I think I can help diagnose your problem. Ā 
    😳😳😳

    šŸ˜‚

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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    So... I ruined it? Ā I can still rinse it and brine it to make pastrami. Ā Or maybe cook it sous-vide

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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,831
    You did not ruin it however flats are harder to nail the finish for me due to the lean nature of that part of the packer.Ā  My experience has resulted in the smaller pieces taking longer per lb than the larger ones.Ā  I would run at around 250-270F and figure a good 1.5 hrs per lb at a minimum.Ā  Cook til the thickest part probes tender and you are there.Ā 
    The below recipe for a flat gets good reviews-
    https://biggreenegg.com/recipes/brisket-flat/Ā  Ā  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.Ā  Life is too short for light/lite beer!Ā  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.Ā Ā 
  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    Sounds like a plan @lousubcap

    Texas crutch it will be. Ā Egg is frozen shut this morning. Ā Worst timing ever. Ā I replaced my gasket not long ago and it is not soaked with fat yet. Ā It is the second time this happens to me in 8 years that I’ve owned the egg.

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  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    FWIW I was thinking if I try that recipe I would also add some butter to the foil during the crutch. Defat the foil juices and use for a base for a bbq sauce.Ā 


    Which came first the chicken or the egg? Ā I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg.Ā 

  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    edited November 2019
    Butter sounds like a good idea.

    The ā€œbeastā€ is in the egg since 11AM this morning (3 hours now) but I had to leave and the temp went down to 170F, I opened the traps a bit and temp is now 250F. Ā Internal temp is 116F.Ā 

    Wood chunks are cherry and chips are maple. Ā There is lots of white smoke on the first picture but it is because I just added wood chips.



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  • paqman said:
    Butter sounds like a good idea.

    The ā€œbeastā€ is in the egg since 11AM this morning (3 hours now) but I had to leave and the temp went down to 170F, I opened the traps a bit and temp is now 250F. Ā Internal temp is 116F.Ā 

    Wood chunks are cherry and chips are maple. Ā There is lots of white smoke on the first picture but it is because I just added wood chips.


    Looking good. What time shall I show up? 😁

    This being said, ā€œthe beastā€ designation. seems a little grand for a three pound flat. šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰

    I’d be Egging in similar conditions, were I not currently enjoying the sunny beaches of Mexico. I still have a few 3-4lb pieces of pre-seasoned flat as well as another two full packers in the freezer.Ā 
  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    paqman said:
    Butter sounds like a good idea.

    The ā€œbeastā€ is in the egg since 11AM this morning (3 hours now) but I had to leave and the temp went down to 170F, I opened the traps a bit and temp is now 250F. Ā Internal temp is 116F.Ā 

    Wood chunks are cherry and chips are maple. Ā There is lots of white smoke on the first picture but it is because I just added wood chips.


    Looking good. What time shall I show up? 😁

    This being said, ā€œthe beastā€ designation. seems a little grand for a three pound flat. šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰

    I’d be Egging in similar conditions, were I not currently enjoying the sunny beaches of Mexico. I still have a few 3-4lb pieces of pre-seasoned flat as well as another two full packers in the freezer.Ā 
    Ā I hope it is ready and edible for diner; I think it will. Ā It smells so good right now. Ā I have to leave the house again for an hour or two.

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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    IT is now 175F. Ā Wrapped in a pan with onions, broth and worcestershire sauce.



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  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    Looks great my @paqman


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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,393
    Looks great, @pacman. Ā 
    Ā 
    I've not yet ever cooked (nor seen!) a full brisket, flats only. Ā And on a more philosophical level, I can't quite understand how a "smaller" brisket would be harder to cook than a full flat. Ā You've kinda proved my belief, thanks! Ā 

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten" Ā  - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,831
    Congrats on the cook.Ā  Way to bring it home.Ā Ā 
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.Ā  Life is too short for light/lite beer!Ā  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.Ā Ā 
  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,932
    Ā Botch said:
    Looks great, @pacman. Ā 
    Ā 
    I've not yet ever cooked (nor seen!) a full brisket, flats only. Ā And on a more philosophical level, I can't quite understand how a "smaller" brisket would be harder to cook than a full flat. Ā You've kinda proved my belief, thanks! Ā 
    The flat is a lean cut so considering the smaller size, odds of it drying out are high compared to a larger cut. Ā I think that was @theyolksonyou ā€˜s point. Ā To be fair, when I wrapped it in a pan with broth, it steamed it kinda like I do for finishing pastrami. Ā I don’t think that I would have got good results without steam. Ā 

    I know some will call it ā€œboiledā€ brisket, I don’t care, it was great šŸ˜‚

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