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Pastrami

Hi Guys,

 Love Katz's Pastrami, not so much the $32.00 a LB to buy it though. I made Meatheads recipe here:
https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/beef-and-bison-recipes/home-made-pastrami-thats-close-katzs-recipe


Followed the recipe exactly and it turned out excellent and really did come close to Katz's.

Started with a 7LB flat from Costco, here is a pic after a 5 day soak:





After desalinating for 8 hours, I rubbed it and let it dry out uncovered in the fridge for 2 days:



Smoked it at 225 for about 9 hours with three chunks of apple, the bark was awesome and was nice and crispy:



I didnt FTC because I wanted a crispy bark:





Thanks for looking!!
Greg
Chicago, IL BGE XL BGE Mini Webber Charcoal / Elmhurst, IL

Comments

  • bucky925
    bucky925 Posts: 2,049
    Wowza

    The best things in life are not things.  

  • LetsEat
    LetsEat Posts: 462
    If you had given me a heads up I would have baked the rye bread and made a fresh batch of mustard!   Extraordinary!
    IL 
  • JohnnyTarheel
    JohnnyTarheel Posts: 6,629
    Yes sir!!!
    Charlotte, NC - Large BGE 2014, Maverick ET 733, Thermopen, Nest, Platesetter, Woo2 and Extender w/Grid, Kick Ash Basket, Pizza Stone, SS Smokeware Cap, Blackstone 36"
  • BGEChicago
    BGEChicago Posts: 575
    LetsEat said:
    If you had given me a heads up I would have baked the rye bread and made a fresh batch of mustard!   Extraordinary!
    Ha! Speaking of mustard, I still get me mustard from Katz, the best I've ever had great on all meat! Although, I chose some pretty lame Rye, could use a recommendation there!

    Thanks,
    Greg
    Chicago, IL BGE XL BGE Mini Webber Charcoal / Elmhurst, IL
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    Totally Awesome‼️

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,173
     Very nice.
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • JRWhitee
    JRWhitee Posts: 5,678
    Great job
                                                                
    _________________________________________________
    Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story!
    Large BGE 2006, Mini Max 2014, 36" Blackstone, Anova Sous Vide
    Green Man Group 
    Johns Creek, Georgia
  • Daddyshack
    Daddyshack Posts: 184
    Looks great. So no steam?  You went from grill to plate ?
  • johnnyp
    johnnyp Posts: 3,932
    good looking food, my friend
    XL & MM BGE, 36" Blackstone - Newport News, VA
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Very yummy looking. Do you have any access to Bruno's Bakery rye? I got some not too long ago, and it was the best rye I'd had in at least 10 years.
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Yum.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    store bought rye is cut too thin, its best to find a good bakery, buy it whole, and cut it yourself
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Richard Fl
    Richard Fl Posts: 8,297
    Here is how I like to do the pstrami.

    Beef, Brisket, Corned Beef, Smoked, Pastrami, Richard Fl

    With St Patty's Day just over I decided to try my hand at pastrami.  Went to Thirdeyes site, "Playing with Smoke & Fire"
    http://playingwithfireandsmoke.blogspot.com/1996/05/beef-pastrami.html and used the bobberqer method.

    INGREDIENTS:
    3 1/2 Lbs  Corned Beef Flat
    RUB:
    4 parts ground peppercorns
    4 parts ground coriander seeds
    2 parts Turbinado sugar
    2 parts ground Juniper berries
    1 part ground onion powder
    1 part thyme, ground
    1 part paprika
    1 part ground garlic powder
    1 part ground ginger
    1/2 part ground cloves
    1/2 part ground nutmeg

    PROCEDURE:

    1. Pre-soak the brisket(s) for 48 hours in cool water (iced to maintain the temperature below 40°, or kept in the refrigerator in a bucket or zipper bag). Add some roughly cubed, raw potatoes to the water, (appox 2 pounds) to help soak up some of the salts that are drawn out of the brisket. Change the water, and potatoes, every 12 hours. Some of the water from the last soak may be saved and used for boiling cabbage.

    2. At the end of the soaking time discard the potatoes, remove the brisket, and let dry. Then apply the following rub, reserving some for another coating before slicing. Wrap brisket in plastic, then refrigerate overnight.  Bobby recommended potatoes, I did not use them.

    COOKING METHOD  Wet Pastrami - Foil Finish

    1. Method #1--Cook with an indirect set up using barbecue temps of 220° to 250° (grate temperature) until tender  (see note above). Use a gentle amount of smoke, pecan is my favorite. Loosely wrap in foil then over-wrap with newspaper and place in a preheated cooler and rest for 1 hour. Slice thin, against the grain. Serve warm, with mustard, rye bread and pickles.

    2. Set up you cooker as described in method #1, using the same cooking temperatures and flavor wood. When the pastrami reaches around 150° internal temperature, remove from the cooker, wrap in a double layer of foil (adding up to 1/4 cup of water, beer or chicken broth is optional), then return to the cooker (or use your oven). The foil will allow the pastrami to steam/braise during the remainder of the cook. Cook until tender (see note above). Rest before serving. Remember to slice against the grain. Wet pastrami can be served on sandwiches or as a main meat with cabbage and potatoes on the side.

    3. On cooking day bring brisket to room temperature, then cook with an indirect set up at 275° (grate temperature) until the internal temperature is 180°. Allow about 1 hour per pound for cooking.

    4. After about 3 hours of in direct cookin, I placed the meat in a double foil pack and added 1/2 can beer.  Secured tightly and left on the BGE until internal temp reached 195F.  Removed from BGE, let cool and then placed in refrigerator until next day.  sliced then with an electric slicer.

    5. TIP #1: As an option to braising in foil, you can do this step in a Dutch oven, an oven pan with a cover. These may require more liquid than when using a foil pouch.

    6. Ready to eat:

    Recipe Type: Appetizer, Beef, Sandwich

    Source
    Source: BGE Forum, Richard Fl, 2015/04/01

    Author Notes
    fishlessman Posts:

    I have done several and by far the best was the last one, i simmered a head of garlic and some peppercorns in a cup of water and tossed that into the soaking water to help change the flavor profile from corned beef over to pastrami, 2 water changes so 2 heads of garlic. for the rub, pepper, coriander, garlic works for me



  • BGEChicago
    BGEChicago Posts: 575
    Looks great. So no steam?  You went from grill to plate ?
    Yes sir, no need, treat it like a brisket, 203 or until tender and your done... I actually defrosted some for tonights dinner.
    Chicago, IL BGE XL BGE Mini Webber Charcoal / Elmhurst, IL
  • Diesel_Hokie
    Diesel_Hokie Posts: 22
    edited February 2020
    Smoked my "close to Katz" pastrami today after a full 3 week soak / corning (because a buddy told me he does it that long, and once I started the soak I recognized a family gathering 3 weeks out as the perfect venue for Reubens!)

    Wow oh wow this moved to the top of my 'best thing I've done on the egg' list.  It was a little clunky following the amazing ribs instructions, as you have to print out 1) the corned beef instructions, 2) the pastrami rub instructions and 3) the pastrami instructions. 

    I was shocked how my 7 lb brisket flat from Sam's fed 4 of us with very little leftovers.  I guess after trimming, corning and smoking it lost a lot of weight.  I'll weigh it next time before smoking to better understand that.   Also shocked with how much flavor the finished product had with zero salt in the pastrami rub.

    DO IT !   IT'S FANTASTIC!