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cul-de-sac-er
cul-de-sac-er Posts: 218
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Good evening all,
I just installed a smoke ware chimney cap and my dome is teetering on falling when fully opened, concerned about dome fall and crack.
Will someone please chime in. 
Thanks in advance.
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  • Jupiter Jim
    Jupiter Jim Posts: 3,351
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    You need to tighten the band bolts simple fix, if you don't tighten them the dome at some point will fall off and most likely break.

    I'm only hungry when I'm awake!

    Okeechobee FL. Winter

    West Jefferson NC Summer

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,188
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    Don’t worry if you bend the bolts when tightening. They are supposed to bend. 
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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,030
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    Falling out and hitting the ground or are you worried about the dome falling shut?
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
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    WeberWho said:
    Falling out and hitting the ground or are you worried about the dome falling shut?
    Good question. 
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  • cul-de-sac-er
    cul-de-sac-er Posts: 218
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    Dome is falling shut tightening everything now, you sure it's not springs?
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
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    Is the egg level? 
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  • Jupiter Jim
    Jupiter Jim Posts: 3,351
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    Could be the springs, did you remove them?

    I'm only hungry when I'm awake!

    Okeechobee FL. Winter

    West Jefferson NC Summer

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  • DWFII
    DWFII Posts: 317
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    I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am interested in both the problem and the answers. I also have a LBGE. My bands need to be adjusted because I have some overbite, but the springs were replaced and the dome opens up to stand about 15-20 degrees from perpendicular. When I start to close it I get about half way down, and at that point the dome would fall if I let go of the handle. This seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

    I have several questions--

    1) Is the above scenario normal?

    2) I just recently saw a photo of an open dome on a presumably new large egg. It seemed to be both perpendicular and sitting behind and slightly below the top edge of the bottom of the egg. The angle of the photo wasn't very good but it didn't look to be the kind of set up that I have on my egg...or even the kind of set up that is being sold as the "new" style. The springs were off to the side and there was some sort of armature at about 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock. ( I wish I could find the photo again) Does anyone recognize this type of hinge set up and know where to  research it?

    Thanks for any help.
    Bespoke boot and shoemaker--45+ years
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  • baychilla
    baychilla Posts: 387
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    I doubt the added weight from the smokeware cap or its sealing tape is the issue.  Id look at the springs/bands.

    /what do I know, apparently the Egg I bought was old and inferior
    Near San Francisco in California
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    DWFII said:
    I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am interested in both the problem and the answers. I also have a LBGE. My bands need to be adjusted because I have some overbite, but the springs were replaced and the dome opens up to stand about 15-20 degrees from perpendicular. When I start to close it I get about half way down, and at that point the dome would fall if I let go of the handle. This seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

    I have several questions--

    1) Is the above scenario normal?

    2) I just recently saw a photo of an open dome on a presumably new large egg. It seemed to be both perpendicular and sitting behind and slightly below the top edge of the bottom of the egg. The angle of the photo wasn't very good but it didn't look to be the kind of set up that I have on my egg...or even the kind of set up that is being sold as the "new" style. The springs were off to the side and there was some sort of armature at about 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock. ( I wish I could find the photo again) Does anyone recognize this type of hinge set up and know where to  research it?

    Thanks for any help.
    BGE recently updated the bands on the Large BGE to look/function similar the XL BGE. It does have side hinge springs now. Some people like it allot. Some don't like it because it does not open as much when fully opened.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • mgoblue0484
    mgoblue0484 Posts: 148
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    Big fan of the new hinge.

    GO BLUE!

    Fairfax, Va

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  • DWFII
    DWFII Posts: 317
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    If anyone has a photo of that hinge, in operation--dome open, IOW--I'd be grateful to see it.
    Bespoke boot and shoemaker--45+ years
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    DWFII said:
    If anyone has a photo of that hinge, in operation--dome open, IOW--I'd be grateful to see it.
    http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1204503/new-band-design-for-the-large-bge/p4
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • DWFII
    DWFII Posts: 317
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    Yeah I think that's the one. Thanks for the link.

    The photos on page four look like what I saw But on some of the photos on page 5(?) and 6, I see some sort of apparatus on the back side that looks like it attaches to the nest...or something. What is that?

    Also some are unhappy with the new bands and say that the old side tables won't fit...what's up with all of that?
    Bespoke boot and shoemaker--45+ years
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    DWFII said:
    Yeah I think that's the one. Thanks for the link.

    The photos on page four look like what I saw But on some of the photos on page 5(?) and 6, I see some sort of apparatus on the back side that looks like it attaches to the nest...or something. What is that?

    Also some are unhappy with the new bands and say that the old side tables won't fit...what's up with all of that?
    What you see attached towards the back might be the "Handler".
    It stabilizes the nest and adds a handle to more safely pull/move your Egg.
    Yes, that's what it is. I have one on my XL. It does work well.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • cul-de-sac-er
    cul-de-sac-er Posts: 218
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    I tightened every nut and bolt on my large and it seems to have fixed the problem for now. The egg is level and I tightened all nuts and bolts a month or so ago, maybe just a routine thing lock washers may help?
    Has anyone replaced springs before?
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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 11,533
    edited January 2018
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    unlike Kamado Joe's new hinge system, AFAIK one is expected to hold on to the BGE dome on its way down, I wouldn't rely on the tightened nuts/bolts to 'cushion' the drop.  If you over tighten you risk breaking the bolt or stripping the nut head. My two cents.

    Edit: My apology, reread your OP, it was falling shut even in fully open position, not that you were letting go on its way down.
    canuckland
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  • DWFII
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    Photo Egg said:
    DWFII said:
    Yeah I think that's the one. Thanks for the link.

    The photos on page four look like what I saw But on some of the photos on page 5(?) and 6, I see some sort of apparatus on the back side that looks like it attaches to the nest...or something. What is that?

    Also some are unhappy with the new bands and say that the old side tables won't fit...what's up with all of that?
    What you see attached towards the back might be the "Handler".
    It stabilizes the nest and adds a handle to more safely pull/move your Egg.
    Yes, that's what it is. I have one on my XL. It does work well.
    Is it true? the old side shelves won't fit the new band?
    Bespoke boot and shoemaker--45+ years
    Instagram
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    DWFII said:
    Photo Egg said:
    DWFII said:
    Yeah I think that's the one. Thanks for the link.

    The photos on page four look like what I saw But on some of the photos on page 5(?) and 6, I see some sort of apparatus on the back side that looks like it attaches to the nest...or something. What is that?

    Also some are unhappy with the new bands and say that the old side tables won't fit...what's up with all of that?
    What you see attached towards the back might be the "Handler".
    It stabilizes the nest and adds a handle to more safely pull/move your Egg.
    Yes, that's what it is. I have one on my XL. It does work well.
    Is it true? the old side shelves won't fit the new band?
    I can't answer the shelf question on new bands question.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • DWFII
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    Photo Egg said:
    I can't answer the shelf question on new bands question.
    Thank you anyway...just for taking the time.

    Maybe someone else?
    Bespoke boot and shoemaker--45+ years
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  • JRWhitee
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    DoubleEgger said:
    Don’t worry if you bend the bolts when tightening. They are supposed to bend. 
    @tarheelmatt may have a youtube on how to tighten the dome!  =)
                                                                
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  • tarheelmatt
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    JRWhitee said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    Don’t worry if you bend the bolts when tightening. They are supposed to bend. 
    @tarheelmatt may have a youtube on how to tighten the dome!  =)
    Ha!  Maybe I need to make a video of one.  

    I'll shoot one at Butt Blast of Mike tightening the band bolts for me.  
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