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Smoke Flavor

My wife is not a huge fan of the smoke flavor.  I like it to some degree but do not want everything to taste like a ham.  So, even though this may be obvious can say something that calls for a 250 degree 4 hour cook be done in an equal number of degrees (1000) for say 400 degrees in 2hours 30 minutes?
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I am going to gain way too much weight now that I have a LBGE.

Comments

  • SoCalTim
    SoCalTim Posts: 2,158
    Hi Driller, think of 'smoke' as a spice .. it's an added ingredient. It's not supposed to be overwhelming, it's meant to compliment - my suggestion is to tinker with mild fruit woods, like apple and or peach .. i think you'll be happily surprised. Merry Christmas!


    I've slow smoked and eaten so much pork, I'm legally recognized as being part swine - Chatsworth Ca.
  • scdaf
    scdaf Posts: 177
    Most of the things we cook low and slow need the time to render fat, collagen and connective tissues. 
    I can tell you my pork butts and pulled beef taste exactly NOTHING like ham.  Nor does my rib roast nor my slow smoked, reverse seared steaks.  Nor my pork ribs or beef short ribs.

    Some things, like BBQ and lovemaking are just better at a slower pace...
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    The math doesn't work like that.  0F is 460F above absolute zero.

    Hotter you cook the faster, but if you want to lower the smoke flavor/aroma, use a neutral lump, don't add smoke wood, and let your fire stabilize well before you throw the food on.
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  • Some things like ribs and pork butt can be turbo’d but if you want to get rid of the smoke flavor you need to start with a neutral charcoal like rockwood. My wife liked the egg a lot more once I switched to rockwood because she couldn’t stand the Smokey flavor before that. 
    Large BGE
    Huntsville, AL
  • mEGG_My_Day
    mEGG_My_Day Posts: 1,661
    As noted above, not all lump is the same.  Some brands like Royal Oak are great, but may require a lot of time to stabilize (I've had it take as much as an hour).  Other brands like Rockwood can get there much faster.  Some brands are crap and aren't worth cooking with.

    What lump are you using?
    Memphis, TN 

    LBGE, 2 SBGE, Hasty-Bake Gourmet
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Be sure that the food is not placed into the Egg until the smoke becomes almost invisible. When there are still billows of white smoke, both acrid flavors and tiny particles of soot are produced.

    Almost all lump will produce some smoke flavor, because there is a small remnant of wood. As the lump gets towards pure carbon, the flavor disappears. So smoke flavor can be lessened by completely leaving the wood out.

    Note, that after months of use, the Egg will be lined with smoke residue. and the flavor/aroma can only be removed by a clean burn and scraping.

    The smoke flavor penetrates the food as long as the surface remains slightly damp. After that, the molecules sit on the surface. Misting and mopping doesn't do much for flavor, but it can wash off some deposited smoke molecules, as well as slowing the cooking.

    Cooking at 400 will likely cause some of the sugar in rubs to burn. If there is no sugar in the rub, like some beef rubs which are based on salt, high temps can be good for browning the outside of meats that don't need to be cooked much above 130, or crisping poultry skin at the end of a slower cook.

    Speaking of poultry, its gets the smokiest, so very light fruit woods, or some nut woods like pecan are appropriate.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    If neither of you really enjoy much of a smokey flavor why are you not using a gas grill?

    Perhaps you could just do a small part of the cook time "naked" and then cook most of the remaining time on a rack in a pan and loosely covered with foil???
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • HeavyG said:
    If neither of you really enjoy much of a smokey flavor why are you not using a gas grill?


    And why did you buy a smoker, which burns wood and gives off smoke?
    on a gasser you can add a foil pouch or a box with some wet chips which might last 30 min and give you very mild smoke flavor.
  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    My wife is not a huge fan of the smoke flavor.  I like it to some degree but do not want everything to taste like a ham.  
    Smoke is a flavoring - different smokes add different flavors.  Too much of any flavoring is not good - same for smoke.  Ham is cured - tasting like a ham means tasting cured.  Hams may also be smoked, but ham flavor is not smoke flavor.

    So, even though this may be obvious can say something that calls for a 250 degree 4 hour cook be done in an equal number of degrees (1000) for say 400 degrees in 2hours 30 minutes?
    NO NO and NO.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • run53
    run53 Posts: 121
    edited December 2017
    Woodchunk said:
    HeavyG said:
    If neither of you really enjoy much of a smokey flavor why are you not using a gas grill?


    And why did you buy a smoker, which burns wood and gives off smoke?
    on a gasser you can add a foil pouch or a box with some wet chips which might last 30 min and give you very mild smoke flavor.
    Hmmm........I guess I'm not the only one who bought the BGE thinking it was a grill, a smoker and an oven. At least that's the way it is advertised on their web site. Stupid me.......assuming using it as a grill or oven would not produce a smoked flavor. I still like it though. Although if everything is "smoked" , then I suppose it may be false advertising. 

    Like I said....I'm not really complaining as everything I've cooked on it so far has been great. 
    Large BGE - 2017
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    Thermopen and DOT

    Boston, Mass
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    run53 said:
    Woodchunk said:
    HeavyG said:
    If neither of you really enjoy much of a smokey flavor why are you not using a gas grill?


    And why did you buy a smoker, which burns wood and gives off smoke?
    on a gasser you can add a foil pouch or a box with some wet chips which might last 30 min and give you very mild smoke flavor.
    Hmmm........I guess I'm not the only one who bought the BGE thinking it was a grill, a smoker and an oven. At least that's the way it is advertised on their web site. Stupid me.......assuming using it as a grill or oven would not produce a smoked flavor. I still like it though. Although if everything is "smoked" , then I suppose it may be false advertising. 

    Like I said....I'm not really complaining as everything I've cooked on it so far has been great. 
    It is all those things.  Don't worry about the flamers.
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    I love lamp..
  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    edited December 2017
    The egg is not a smoker which burns wood and gives off smoke.  A few people will burn wood, but the vast majority burn charcoal. Burning charcoal will impart some smoke, but quite different from burning wood.  Adding wood chunks is how most eggers get additional smoke flavor.  Depending on brand of charcoal and temp you can get different smoke profiles.  There is no reason everything coming off the egg should taste like it was smoked.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • run53
    run53 Posts: 121
    Yeah. I'm a newbie and only have about 6 or 7 cooks. Mostly higher temps with pizza. Always great. I found the chicken to have more smoke flavor than the tenderloin I did. But in a good way
    Large BGE - 2017
    PSWoo with extention
    Thermopen and DOT

    Boston, Mass