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Pizza Tips

I don't claim to be an expert at pizza. Far from it. But I have found some recipes/methods that have helped me and I thought I'd pass them along.

DOUGH

I finally found a dough recipe that is not only stupid simple, but you can make it around 10 or 11 AM and bake pizza for dinner that evening! Even I can plan ahead that much! Usually. The recipe is no secret, in fact, has been out there for quite some time. Every time I saw it mentioned, I thought, nope, tried that, didn't care for it. Well, either I did something wrong when I tried it - or I never tried it. Love the dough, Jim Lahey's No Knead. It can be found on many different blogs, from Food52 to Bon Appetit to SeriousEats to HandletheHeat and more I'm sure.

Blend the dry ingredients (flour, yeast and salt) with a whisk, then add water. Mix by hand in a mixing bowl, cover with plastic wrap, put it in a warm place and come back in about 8 hours. Divide it into 2 or 3 pieces, form into dough balls and place into proofing trays in the fridge if you're not using right away. If you're using them all that evening, form the dough balls, cover for 30 minutes or so (so the balls can take shape) and have at it.

SAUCE

It doesn't get any easier than this. The only catch is, I used a food mill and some folks may not have one. What it does is take whole canned tomatoes and turn them into purée while removing the seeds and the stem ends leaving a smooth purée with none of the bitterness. And it doesn't turn the tomatoes orange, which seems to happen with food processors for some reason. I guess you could do this (sorta) with a food processor and a fine mesh strainer, but I prefer the mill. Or, you could just buy canned purée I suppose.

Anyway, once you have the purée and have opened your dough, ladle the purée onto the dough (don't go overboard, remember, less is more), sprinkle it with a pinch of salt, a few grinds of pepper from a mill, a dusting of dried oregano and another of garlic powder. Et voilà, your sauce is done, no cooking, no stirring. Top as desired and bake. Don't forget the drizzle of evoo right before it goes into the oven.

BAKING

I've been using my oven for the last several years. Used to use the egg, but see no advantage. Anyway, I have a 1/4" steel plate that lives in my oven, center rack. I turn on the oven, set to 550° and let it come up to temp (check steel with IR thermo). Once there, change to broil a couple of minutes before launching the pizza. After the broiler heats up a bit, in goes the pie. (My oven is a freak of nature and will go to 725°F if I want. I've done that a number of times and the results are good. But not really much better than with the steel and broiler at 550°.)

Even at 550°, my pies take only about 3 minutes. I have an 8" round aluminum turning peel so I rotate the pie once or twice because my oven has a hot spot toward the back (just like my egg). I sometimes use that to remove the pizza from the oven too. More often, my old faithful wooden peel from 20 years ago.

Here are a few pics of my last pie using this recipe. A simple pepperoni and onion pie. I know how you guys LOVE your pics! 


I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

Michael 
Central Connecticut 

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Comments

  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,173
    Q.....you have always been my pizza hero. Will try the sauce soon....on the egg of course ;)
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • GoooDawgs
    GoooDawgs Posts: 1,060
    How do you use the EVOO?  Does it go on the crust?

    Thanks for these tips! 
    Milton, GA 
    XL BGE & FB300
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    edited November 2017
    GoooDawgs said:
    How do you use the EVOO?  Does it go on the crust?

    Thanks for these tips! 
    I have a squeeze bottle of oil. Just before the pie goes into the oven, I give it a small squirt.

    PS: Like Mangieri... build the pie, then squirt on a little oil. Watch the end of his video, Naturally Risen. He keeps the oil right there with the other ingredients.

    https://player.vimeo.com/video/6938721

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831

    Q.....you have always been my pizza hero. Will try the sauce soon....on the egg of course ;)
    Hero, huh? Cool! =) 

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Woodchunk
    Woodchunk Posts: 911
    edited November 2017
    Thanks for the tip. Wife is making it up now for tomorrow

    she has another no knead but this one was more simple so going to try it out

    i looked at 2 websites on google that had this and they say to let it rise for 18 hours, is this a misprint. https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/no-knead-pizza-dough
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    edited November 2017
    @Woodchunk, The one I used said 8-18 hours. I'm all for quicker and since the yeast had worked it's magic after 8, I tried it and thought it was very good. At 8 hrs, I took it out of the bowl and divided into three pieces, then shaped dough balls. Covered each and put two in the fridge for later.

    Left the third out on the counter for 30 minutes more, just so the ball would hold it's shape. A round dough ball almost guarantees a round pie. For some reason, last night's dough was easily torn as I was stretching it out and patching it up gave it a more "rustic" look. =)

    Check out the Serious Eats article/video.
    http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/03/jim-laheys-no-knead-pizza-dough-recipe.html

    In the comments, the 8, 18 (even 24) is mentioned...

    wagyutail said,

    I thought he said 9 hours on the video, this recipe says 18?

    J. Kenji Lopez-Alt said,

    wagyutail,

    He did say 9 hours on the video. It all really depends on the ambient temperature and his apartment happened to be pretty warm. It's actually quite forgiving. I've let mine go for 8 hours or as many as 24 and it'll still work just fine.


    Good luck. Hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited November 2017
    Woodchunk said:
    Thanks for the tip. Wife is making it up now for tomorrow

    she has another no knead but this one was more simple so going to try it out

    i looked at 2 websites on google that had this and they say to let it rise for 18 hours, is this a misprint. https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/no-knead-pizza-dough
    I rose overnight, making the batch before bed, dough being ready around lunch or dinner the following day.  Lahey's My Pizza is a solid pizza book covering this recipe with interesting topping combos. 
    https://www.amazon.com/My-Pizza-Easy-No-Knead-Spectacular/dp/0307886158
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    @Focker, I bought Peter Reinhart's book, American Pie. I've barely looked at it. So far, the only pizza book I own.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    @Focker, I bought Peter Reinhart's book, American Pie. I've barely looked at it. So far, the only pizza book I own.
    My Pizza, I grabbed from the library, copied the good stuff.  Only book I own is a gift from Staci, by Peter Evans.
    https://www.amazon.com/Pizza-Award-Winning-Pies-Home-Kitchen/dp/1616281685
    His carmelized onions with balsalmic is worth the price of admission alone.  Prefer those two pizza books for sauce, topping ideas more than anything.

    I like using Reinhart's "American Neapolitan" NY style oily dough from the free Craftsy class.  Received good reviews at the Rock River Valley Eggfest a couple of years ago, an egg friendly recipe at 550.  
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    edited November 2017
    Focker said:
    @Focker, I bought Peter Reinhart's book, American Pie. I've barely looked at it. So far, the only pizza book I own.
    My Pizza, I grabbed from the library, copied the good stuff.  Only book I own is a gift from Staci, by Peter Evans.
    https://www.amazon.com/Pizza-Award-Winning-Pies-Home-Kitchen/dp/1616281685
    His carmelized onions with balsalmic is worth the price of admission alone.  Prefer those two pizza books for sauce, topping ideas more than anything.

    I like using Reinhart's "American Neapolitan" NY style oily dough from the free Craftsy class.  Received good reviews at the Rock River Valley Eggfest a couple of years ago, an egg friendly recipe at 550.  
    Most of my recipes come from the web. Here's an idea for you... garlic white sauce pizza. No tomatoes. One of the best pizzas I ever made was topped with this sauce and a blend of four cheeses, sun dried tomatoes, shiitake mushrooms and pancetta.

    Hahaha, this cook is so old, it was actually done at 800° on my egg! One of the last ones I think, in August 2012! For a throwdown. @KiterTodd (see? I used to! =))
    <br><img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5017260/uploads/editor/95/13ya64kbiyng.jpg" title="Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5017260/uploads/editor/95/13ya64kbiyng.jpg"><img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5017260/uploads/editor/rb/g3cm7y9qea9v.jpg" title="Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5017260/uploads/editor/rb/g3cm7y9qea9v.jpg">

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • KiterTodd
    KiterTodd Posts: 2,466
    Well that pie just looks awesome!
    LBGE/Maryland
  • Begger
    Begger Posts: 607
    RE:   DOUGH:

    My bread machine, one of the REAL cheap ones (<50$ 10 years ago) has a dough setting.   And it is a wonder.
    I make the 1 1/2lb size and as they complete, put 'em in plastic covered bowl in the fridge.   3x of those guys makes a LOT of Pizza.  

    Machine time is about 90 minutes, with another 10 for 'prep'.     So, I can easily make the 3 I ususally need while watching TV.   

    Just my Opinion, but I love the simplicitiy of flour / water / salt / yeast / and OLIVE OIL  
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Begger said:
    RE:   DOUGH:

    My bread machine, one of the REAL cheap ones (<50$ 10 years ago) has a dough setting.   And it is a wonder.
    I make the 1 1/2lb size and as they complete, put 'em in plastic covered bowl in the fridge.   3x of those guys makes a LOT of Pizza.  

    Machine time is about 90 minutes, with another 10 for 'prep'.     So, I can easily make the 3 I ususally need while watching TV.   

    Just my Opinion, but I love the simplicitiy of flour / water / salt / yeast / and OLIVE OIL  
    I have a bread machine too. Unfortunately, not one of the cheap ones, but I had a gift certificate and nothing else to use it on. =) Tried pizza dough a couple of times, but wasn't too happy with it. Makes great bread dough, though I bake 'em in loaf pans, not in the machine.

    I don't mind the 8 hour wait for pizza, especially for dough this good. It's the 2-3 DAY wait in the fridge that gets me. I have one grocery store near me that makes a decent dough. They usually have some that's 2-3 days old. If I have a craving for pizza, I can go get a dough ball from them rather than make some and wait days for a pie. This stuff is better and I know how much salt is in it (a concern with store bought).

    Are you referring to Ken Forkish's book, Flour, Water, Salt, Yeast, or do you use a different recipe?

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • DonWW
    DonWW Posts: 424
    I have consistently used the pizza dough recipe that's in the Big Green Egg cookbook and it works great.  This stuff ain't rocket science.
    XL and Medium.  Dallas, Texas.
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Round two...two days after making the dough...

    Head of roasted garlic, mozz, cheddar, locatelli romano, fresh spinach. olive oil, oregano, shiitake mushrooms.

    OUTSTANDING!!!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Woodchunk
    Woodchunk Posts: 911
    edited December 2017
    Begger said:
    RE:   DOUGH:

    My bread machine, one of the REAL cheap ones (<50$ 10 years ago) has a dough setting.   And it is a wonder.
    I make the 1 1/2lb size and as they complete, put 'em in plastic covered bowl in the fridge.   3x of those guys makes a LOT of Pizza.  

    Machine time is about 90 minutes, with another 10 for 'prep'.     So, I can easily make the 3 I ususally need while watching TV.   

    Just my Opinion, but I love the simplicitiy of flour / water / salt / yeast / and OLIVE OIL  
    I have a bread machine too. Unfortunately, not one of the cheap ones, but I had a gift certificate and nothing else to use it on. =) Tried pizza dough a couple of times, but wasn't too happy with it. Makes great bread dough, though I bake 'em in loaf pans, not in the machine.

    I don't mind the 8 hour wait for pizza, especially for dough this good. It's the 2-3 DAY wait in the fridge that gets me. I have one grocery store near me that makes a decent dough. They usually have some that's 2-3 days old. If I have a craving for pizza, I can go get a dough ball from them rather than make some and wait days for a pie. This stuff is better and I know how much salt is in it (a concern with store bought).

    Are you referring to Ken Forkish's book, Flour, Water, Salt, Yeast, or do you use a different recipe?
    Yep, the wife uses her bread machine all the time, but not for pizza dough.
    by the way, she made this up yesterday, it Rose really good and is cut up into the 4 balls in the fridge. Might try it tomorrow. Yours looks terrific
  • GrillSgt
    GrillSgt Posts: 2,507
    Dough questions. 

    Is it suitable for a thin crust?
    Have you frozen it successfully?
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    GrillSgt said:
    Dough questions. 

    Is it suitable for a thin crust?
    Have you frozen it successfully?
    Well, I consider it pretty thin except for the outer crust. Similar to this one I posted...
    If you mean can it be defiled with a rolling pin, I hope never to find out. =)

    I haven't tried freezing this particular dough, but you can certainly freeze dough so I don't see why you couldn't freeze this recipe. It's just flour, water, salt and yeast.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • GrillSgt
    GrillSgt Posts: 2,507
    Ok thanks. That pic shows it pretty thin. 
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Best/worst pizza ever!! I just made the last of the three pies from this batch of dough... and almost threw it out!! The dough kept tearing (a LOT!) and sticking to the peel. Seriously, more holes than dough! But it was all I had for dinner tonight so I hung in there. 

    Wound up shaped like a triangle, but with the tomatoes, ground beef, garlic, onion, oregano and three cheeses, even though sloppy, it was VERY tasty!!

    Moral, never give up!!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • bluebird66
    bluebird66 Posts: 2,946
    Nice pizza!
    Large Egg with adjustable rig, Kick Ash Basket, Minimax and various Weber's.
    Floyd Va

  • Thanks for the info.

    Smoke question. Whenever I get my Eggs up to desired pizza cooking temps, they belch smoke which then flavours the pizza.

    Is this a common issue? Is a "clean burn" the solution?
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Thanks for the info.

    Smoke question. Whenever I get my Eggs up to desired pizza cooking temps, they belch smoke which then flavours the pizza.

    Is this a common issue? Is a "clean burn" the solution?
    That smoke will subside with time.  Be patient, grasshopper.
    ______________________________________________
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  • Thanks for the info.

    Smoke question. Whenever I get my Eggs up to desired pizza cooking temps, they belch smoke which then flavours the pizza.

    Is this a common issue? Is a "clean burn" the solution?
    That smoke will subside with time.  Be patient, grasshopper.
    You mean during the cook? I'm not talking about the bad smoke that initially burns off the lump here; I'm talking about a greasier smelling smoke that only presents when hitting temps in the 500+ range. This'll dissipate if I wait?
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Yes
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  • Woodchunk
    Woodchunk Posts: 911
    edited December 2017
    We did one of the small balls last night in the form of flat bread, good
    this afternoon we did a pizza with sausage and country ham. Wife sprinkled the dough with garlic oil, put on the egg for about 2 min. To set the dough, brought it in and finished all the toppings. We like this, simple and fast. A winner.

  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Glad you liked the dough. I know I do!

    Never understood the "set the dough" for a couple of minutes thing. My pies usually only take 3-4 minutes anyway. What good does it do?

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Woodchunk
    Woodchunk Posts: 911
    edited December 2017
    Glad you liked the dough. I know I do!

    Never understood the "set the dough" for a couple of minutes thing. My pies usually only take 3-4 minutes anyway. What good does it do?
    She pre cooked the sausage and it wants to roll around on the pizza when shifting to the stone. There seemed to be less effort to transfer the  pizza to the stone, first time we have done this.
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    I never pre-cook any toppings, not even a 1/4" thick, wall to wall slab of sausage on a Chicago deep dish.

    Try this... raw ingredients, shake the peel after every ingredient is added. And be quick about it. Use a pinch or two of semolina on the peel. Acts like ball bearings.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut