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Lowcountrygamecock
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Im doing a test run on my first turkey before thanksgiving. Trying to decide on the best method. Joetisserie or on the grate. Thoughts? Those that cook on the grate do you go direct or indirect and what temp?
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I go indirect at 375. Look up the "Mad Max turkey" method. Good stuff.
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Search for "Mad Max's Turkey and Gravy" recipe, and follow it to the letter. The best.
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Another option worth considering is spatchcock turkey. The search function should yield an abundance of threads about turkey cooks.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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indirect on the grate……This was my first one and not my last.
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Spatchcocked Turkey and Chicken on the Big Green Egg(you cut out the backbone and cook opened)I like a 11/12 lb bird. If I need lots of turkey I just cook a couple ( 1 & 1/2 hr cook app)Chicken 3 to 3.75lb bird or birds. Under an hour cook.Or, just add a package of legs extra.I do not brine the turkey or Chicken.If time I like to leave uncovered in the fridge overnight (no problem if no time)I cook "direct" @ 400/425 on a raised grill "skin side up" and never turn over.I will use a coffee rub. Use what you like.NOTE PLEASE (A LOT OF SMOKE IS NOT YOU FRIEND)I use about a single handfull of mixed chips: Cherry & Pecan.Cook Turkey to temp (not time) breast @ 155/160 and thigh @ 165.Cook Chicken to temp breast 160.Rest both 10 mins.Coffee Rub (turkey, chicken, beef & pork)Equal part: Instant Expresso Ground coffee..Equal part: Brown Sugar..½ part: Black Pepper..½ part: Kosher Salt..½ part: Garlic Powder..¾ part: Ancho Chili Powder..Don't worry on exact, just close on measurement. I used to use turbinado sugar but we like with brown better. This is pulled from MollyShark, Hungry Man, & Richard In Fl then tweaked. I find the ancho chili powder is far less expensive in the bulk spice area than the bottled area ( have used both light or dark version). I make it starting with a half cup Instant Expresso Ground coffee and work from there as it seems to store well if sealed.Salado TX & 30A FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers.
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Raised direct has also worked well for me, but my go-to turkey method is spatchcocked and indirect with Mickey's rub at 350-375 degrees. Don't go crazy on smoke, but a touch of cherry is just right for us.Stillwater, MN
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I did my first spatchcock Turkey for (our) Thanksgiving a few weeks ago. Don't want to"toot my own horn" but it was hands down the best Turkey I've ever had! I did nothing but spatch it, season it and throw it on the egg for 2hrs. It was a 10 pounder.
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OK.....this recipe takes a couple of days so here we go...
1st thing that you will need is a cooler that will fit your bird with the brine
Brine
1 Gallon of water
1/2 cup of Garlic Powder
1/2 cup of Onion Powder
1/3 cup of pepper
1 cup of salt
1 cup of Brown sugar
A few bay leaves (your preference)
2 cans of bluebird apple juice from concentrate
1 can of bluebird cranberry juice from concentrate
Bring the Brine to a boil string frequently, and let cool on stove top
Break up a bag of ice and put about 5 lbs in the cooler
Combine Brine with the Ice
Drop the turkey in and brine for 48 hrs.......
Now for the compound butter.....
2 tbsp of garlic powder
2 tbsp of onion powder
Fresh thyme, sage, rosemary (yes I know Simon and Garfunkel) to taste... your preference on amounts
I usually put thin in a coffee grinder for a few seconds and get it really fine.
2 stick of salted butter
Use a potato masher to incorporate the spices and herbs
(careful not to over due it or you will melt the butter)
Once everything is incorporated well, put the butter in a one gallon freezer bag and roll the bag up so you have a "roll" of butter at the bottom of the bag and freeze for a day.......
At the end of the 48 hour brine, pull the bird and place on the table breast side up
cut slits on the bottom of the breast closest to the legs, and use your fingers to separate the skin from the breast but be careful not to tear the skin..........
Take your compound butter and cut into 1/4 inch "wafers" to place into the slits that you created in between the skin and breast meat....
Make sure you get the wafers all the way to the top of the breast meat
Take the remainder of the butter and rub all over the bird
Bring the ol EGG up to 275 and cook for a couple of hours then cover with a wet cheese cloth and drop the temp down to 225 for the remainder of the cook
Check the bird every hour to hour and a half to make the cheese cloth stays wet.....I just use water to do so
Pull off once the bird reaches a internal temp of 165
let rest and eat
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Ola, Ga -
+1 on Mickeys rub"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
Minnesota -
big fan of gravy and mad max gravy is outstanding. tday would not be the same for me without it, i even cook a second bird for double the gravy, sometimes do a bird the week before just in case on the gravy.
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Tampa Bay, FL
EIB 6 Oct 95 -
Mickey said:Spatchcocked Turkey and Chicken on the Big Green Egg(you cut out the backbone and cook opened)I like a 11/12 lb bird. If I need lots of turkey I just cook a couple ( 1 & 1/2 hr cook app)Chicken 3 to 3.75lb bird or birds. Under an hour cook.Or, just add a package of legs extra.I do not brine the turkey or Chicken.If time I like to leave uncovered in the fridge overnight (no problem if no time)I cook "direct" @ 400/425 on a raised grill "skin side up" and never turn over.I will use a coffee rub. Use what you like.NOTE PLEASE (A LOT OF SMOKE IS NOT YOU FRIEND)I use about a single handfull of mixed chips: Cherry & Pecan.Cook Turkey to temp (not time) breast @ 155/160 and thigh @ 165.Cook Chicken to temp breast 160.Rest both 10 mins.Coffee Rub (turkey, chicken, beef & pork)Equal part: Instant Expresso Ground coffee..Equal part: Brown Sugar..½ part: Black Pepper..½ part: Kosher Salt..½ part: Garlic Powder..¾ part: Ancho Chili Powder..Don't worry on exact, just close on measurement. I used to use turbinado sugar but we like with brown better. This is pulled from MollyShark, Hungry Man, & Richard In Fl then tweaked. I find the ancho chili powder is far less expensive in the bulk spice area than the bottled area ( have used both light or dark version). I make it starting with a half cup Instant Expresso Ground coffee and work from there as it seems to store well if sealed.
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Peachtree Corners, GA -
i tried a spatchcock turkey a few weeks ago and it was dry. I did a dry rub and cooked direct on elevated grate to 160F in breast. Good, but not juicy. i'm going to wet brine, then smoke my Tday bird. Mad max style. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!
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160 is too much in the breast. 155 is fine.
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I brine mine and do it indirect in a foil pan on the grate. I stuff it with wild rice, morel mushrooms, chopped onions, and pecans. It gets roasted at 350*-375* until done, then rests a bit prior to carving. Never not yummy.Michiana, South of the border.
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