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wood experts: question about torch and staining

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FanOfFanboys
FanOfFanboys Posts: 2,615
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I am building a bar for tailgating. This weekend I stained the sides, have not stained the front yet. Someone mentioned to me to do the burn look using my torch. 

I have a few extra pieces I am going to test on but here is my question: can the torch be done after the stain is applied? or should it be done prior?

if prior only, I can torch the front then stain. if can be done after stain then I can do the sides
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,174
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    It's torch first. 
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  • FanOfFanboys
    FanOfFanboys Posts: 2,615
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    DoubleEgger said:
    It's torch first. 
    damn, figured

    wish I knew this yesterday morn!

    now to decide if I should torch the front or just go ahead and stain entire thing?
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,754
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    why not do a trial piece and see what happens
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    As above, do a test piece of stained wood. You might be ok if it's JUST a stain and not a combo stain/sealer.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • FanOfFanboys
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    Photo Egg said:
    As above, do a test piece of stained wood. You might be ok if it's JUST a stain and not a combo stain/sealer.
    will do a trial piece on scrap but it is stain/sealer combo 

    gah, wish I heard about this yesterday morn instead of the evening!
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  • slovelad
    slovelad Posts: 1,742
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    Yea you have to torch it first. If not, the smell of the fresh burning stain would probably knock you out lol.

    here is a piece that I torched before staining. It adds character by lifting the wood grain, but the right stain can do that too.


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  • FanOfFanboys
    FanOfFanboys Posts: 2,615
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    might be a dumb question but can I remove the stain from the wood I did?

    I really do not like the look of it stained, wish I knew about the torch prior. To the point I might just trash what I have built and build new sides if I can't somehow make it work
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,174
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    FanOfFanboys said:
    might be a dumb question but can I remove the stain from the wood I did?

    I really do not like the look of it stained, wish I knew about the torch prior. To the point I might just trash what I have built and build new sides if I can't somehow make it work
    Get out your sander 
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,889
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    Bleaching and sanding and cussing will never remove it all, but instead either try to change the color or tone to what you want, or paint it or trash it! The choice is yours  but depending on the species of wood and the quality of the initial stain are all determining factors!
    Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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  • FanOfFanboys
    FanOfFanboys Posts: 2,615
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    RRP said:
    Bleaching and sanding and cussing will never remove it all, but instead either try to change the color or tone to what you want, or paint it or trash it! The choice is yours  but depending on the species of wood and the quality of the initial stain are all determining factors!
    I think you are right ha
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  • slovelad
    slovelad Posts: 1,742
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    Here's a thought. You can achieve a similar look of raised wood grain and rustic look if you buzz the wood grain with a sander and go over it with a darker stain to bring out those high spots in the wood.

    this is a assuming you aren't using a plywood, in which case it wouldn't much matter because the torched look won't really work. It needs to me somewhat rough timber
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  • FanOfFanboys
    FanOfFanboys Posts: 2,615
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    slovelad said:
    Here's a thought. You can achieve a similar look of raised wood grain and rustic look if you buzz the wood grain with a sander and go over it with a darker stain to bring out those high spots in the wood.

    this is a assuming you aren't using a plywood, in which case it wouldn't much matter because the torched look won't really work. It needs to me somewhat rough timber
    no plywood. pine fence wood for panels on side and 2x4 for frames

    that is another option

    I stained a scrap piece tonight. will hit with torch tomorrow, just to experiment

    from there I will decide if I start over on sides, stain remaining, or move on to other ideas

    and I still have not decided on what to do a for a top, which was supposed to be my biggest decision! I want a nice piece of wood there. want that to be the centerpiece

    really wish I did not do that stain yesterday, though
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  • slovelad
    slovelad Posts: 1,742
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    I like to do a chevron pattern for bar tops


    here is an 8' bar that I built (with steel tube base)

    Pretty simple and I've done it a few time with success.


    here is another example It on an egg fold up side table




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  • RRP
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    Not being a smart*ss here, but if all this is about a bartop for a tailgate bar thing if I were you I would quit worrying so much about the look this early on. I mean either you are going to be so concerned with your beautiful finish that you will piss off anybody who leaves a wet ring on that soft pine top bar thereby ruining it - OR - just go ahead and use it the one time WHEN it gets ruined and cover that bartop with a sheet of Formica in your team's color and relax, Francis!
    Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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  • FanOfFanboys
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    RRP said:
    Not being a smart*ss here, but if all this is about a bartop for a tailgate bar thing if I were you I would quit worrying so much about the look this early on. I mean either you are going to be so concerned with your beautiful finish that you will piss off anybody who leaves a wet ring on that soft pine top bar thereby ruining it - OR - just go ahead and use it the one time WHEN it gets ruined and cover that bartop with a sheet of Formica in your team's color and relax, Francis!
    if for me I would agree

    but this is a gift and it is a tailgate for adults, not college kids. pretty nice setup they have there already and want to give away something people will enjoy and that they can use on their deck other times of the year


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