How much weight can a platesetter support?

vern1 · May 2017

I have an XL and want to put my 25lb pork shoulder on the PS vs on the grill resting on the PS because of room considerations. Is this a risky move having this much weight on the centre of the PS vs on the outside legs?

Thanks!

etherdome · May 2017

I wouldn't do it. I've had a platesetter crack just by dropping it on the grass from a height of 3 inches. Let go of it a little early when setting it down.

tamu2009 · May 2017

Not sure, but i'd be concerned with getting the direct heat from the patesetter on the the shoulder opposed to more indirect from the air gap between the setter and whatever else it sits on.

etherdome · May 2017

tamu2009 said:

Not sure, but i'd be concerned with getting the direct heat from the patesetter on the the shoulder opposed to more indirect from the air gap between the setter and whatever else it sits on.

Agree

tenpenny_05 · May 2017

etherdome said:

tamu2009 said:

Not sure, but i'd be concerned with getting the direct heat from the patesetter on the the shoulder opposed to more indirect from the air gap between the setter and whatever else it sits on.

Agree

Agree

tenpenny_05 · May 2017

etherdome said:

tamu2009 said:

Not sure, but i'd be concerned with getting the direct heat from the patesetter on the the shoulder opposed to more indirect from the air gap between the setter and whatever else it sits on.

Agree

Agree

vern1 · May 2017

I had my 1st PS for 8 years but always had a grill on it vs setting stuff directly on the PS. The old one cracked when my dog knocked it over on the deck. The problem is the new PS's have longer legs so the grill sits a good 2" higher which is a lot when you are cooking something that is 25 lbs. Hence my dilemma.

If I put it on the grill I would still use some spacers both under the tray and in the tray so direct heat from the PS would not be hitting the shoulder. I just don't want to crack a brand new $100+ PS!! The change in design is not good in my opinion but that's a different story I guess

GrateEggspectations · May 2017

tenpenny_05 said:

etherdome said:

tamu2009 said:

Not sure, but i'd be concerned with getting the direct heat from the patesetter on the the shoulder opposed to more indirect from the air gap between the setter and whatever else it sits on.

Agree

Agree

We heard you the first time.

Agree with the others. Sounds like you'd end up with a good hard sear on that butt via this approach (and not in a good way).

Kent8621 · May 2017

I mainly deal with metal parts at work, but based on the thickness of the one from my large and a 25lb load in the middle of ceramic a quick hand analysis is outside of what I would consider an acceptable margin for a part. so in my opinion don't.

kl8ton · May 2017

@Kent8621

What do you do?

Kent8621 · May 2017

@kl8ton

aerospace engineering contractor. I guess this is where I get to have a little brag, my promotion to Engineering Lead just became official Monday, still getting used to that.

SmokeyPitt · May 2017

I agree with others that the main concern is you don't want it sitting directly on the plate setter because of the conductive heat that will brown the side in contact. You need some kind of rack and spacers sitting above the plate setter.

I don't think you should have any issue fitting a 25 lb shoulder on the XL in a normal configuration. You could fit that on a large egg with no problem. Unless I am missing something and it is an odd shaped shoulder.

Do you happen to have a pic of the shoulder?

SmokeyPitt · May 2017

vern1 said:

I had my 1st PS for 8 years but always had a grill on it vs setting stuff directly on the PS. The old one cracked when my dog knocked it over on the deck. The problem is the new PS's have longer legs so the grill sits a good 2" higher which is a lot when you are cooking something that is 25 lbs. Hence my dilemma.

If I put it on the grill I would still use some spacers both under the tray and in the tray so direct heat from the PS would not be hitting the shoulder. I just don't want to crack a brand new $100+ PS!! The change in design is not good in my opinion but that's a different story I guess

Ahhh...I missed this comment before I posted. It sounds like you have an older XL that had the squatty dome. They used to make a squatty plate setter. They redesigned the XL and plate setter so now you have a normal plate setter with a squatty dome.

I think you should be fine with some kind of rack and spacers to distribute the load.

I would look really hard for any cracks in your dome and get it replaced under warranty

vern1 · May 2017

Kent8621 said:

I mainly deal with metal parts at work, but based on the thickness of the one from my large and a 25lb load in the middle of ceramic a quick hand analysis is outside of what I would consider an acceptable margin for a part. so in my opinion don't.

Whats a quick hand analysis mean?? Seriously

DMW · May 2017

vern1 said:

Kent8621 said:

I mainly deal with metal parts at work, but based on the thickness of the one from my large and a 25lb load in the middle of ceramic a quick hand analysis is outside of what I would consider an acceptable margin for a part. so in my opinion don't.

Whats a quick hand analysis mean?? Seriously

It means he didn't run a computer simulation.

Kent8621 · May 2017

what he said. grab the material properties to plug in a basic equation for load and guessed on the size of the butt. I have a large egg so I assumed the same ratio of size for mine to the size of an XL. typically in this world we have a CAD model to run some simulations on and software but in new design we do a lot of hand calcs for basic loads to give design a starting point of material thickness. once they design the part we can run it through the gauntlet and predict the failure and if we are ok with that point it moves along. it is a lot of fun.

For instance, a few years ago ford (i think) led the way with a new car frame design that has a section the has a "wave" in part of the frame. with that design than can make the frame fail at that point and better control the front end collision of a car. by doing that they increased the chance of living through a head on crash at 55mph significantly.

Legume · May 2017

Is it too late to agree? Should I just concur instead?

Biggreenpharmacist · May 2017

vern1 said:

Kent8621 said:

I mainly deal with metal parts at work, but based on the thickness of the one from my large and a 25lb load in the middle of ceramic a quick hand analysis is outside of what I would consider an acceptable margin for a part. so in my opinion don't.

Whats a quick hand analysis mean?? Seriously

It means he's gonna go blind.

vern1 · May 2017

SmokeyPitt said:

vern1 said:

I had my 1st PS for 8 years but always had a grill on it vs setting stuff directly on the PS. The old one cracked when my dog knocked it over on the deck. The problem is the new PS's have longer legs so the grill sits a good 2" higher which is a lot when you are cooking something that is 25 lbs. Hence my dilemma.

If I put it on the grill I would still use some spacers both under the tray and in the tray so direct heat from the PS would not be hitting the shoulder. I just don't want to crack a brand new $100+ PS!! The change in design is not good in my opinion but that's a different story I guess

Ahhh...I missed this comment before I posted. It sounds like you have an older XL that had the squatty dome. They used to make a squatty plate setter. They redesigned the XL and plate setter so now you have a normal plate setter with a squatty dome.

I think you should be fine with some kind of rack and spacers to distribute the load.

I would look really hard for any cracks in your dome and get it replaced under warranty

Yes an older model. I like the idea about checkin for cracks!

I have a v-rack that could work and its legs would rest with one side near the base of the PS and then stretch across to the other side. Just concerned about having the 25lb load centred in the middle

vern1 · May 2017

Biggreenpharmacist said:

vern1 said:

Kent8621 said:

I mainly deal with metal parts at work, but based on the thickness of the one from my large and a 25lb load in the middle of ceramic a quick hand analysis is outside of what I would consider an acceptable margin for a part. so in my opinion don't.

Whats a quick hand analysis mean?? Seriously

It means he's gonna go blind.

That's what I figured

Still not sure what to do. With my old flat dome and higher plate setter, it presents a problem for bigger cooks

Cheers

RRP · May 2017

I'm just surprised that this many comments were made about a "platesetter" versus that stupid rename of Conveggtor! Maybe there is hope for future eggers after all!

SmokingPiney · May 2017

vern1 said:

I have an XL and want to put my 25lb pork shoulder on the PS vs on the grill resting on the PS because of room considerations. Is this a risky move having this much weight on the centre of the PS vs on the outside legs?

Thanks!

The plate setter will easily support the weight, but..................

The XL should comfortably accommodate a huge shoulder on the grate. You will need the convective circulation to properly cook the butt. You will not get this resting the butt on the plate setter - the plate setter gets VERY hot even on low and slows and will burn whatever is in contact with it.

You can cut the butt in half and cook on the grate if you need the space.

thetrim · May 2017

I've done my mad max turkeys on the large on top of the platesetter with four crushed beer cans creating an air gap. Haven't done something similar in the XL yet. I do have a similar issue with an older style XL with the shallow dome and the new longer legged PS

CtTOPGUN · May 2017

My platesetter handled this brisket flat and boston baked beans in a huge dutch oven! That CI DO has legs that allow an air gap underneath.

thetrim · May 2017

Can anyone speak to a proper CGS set up for the old style shallow dome on the old XL? Should I just reach out to CGS and report back?

vern1 · May 2017

SmokingPiney said:

vern1 said:

I have an XL and want to put my 25lb pork shoulder on the PS vs on the grill resting on the PS because of room considerations. Is this a risky move having this much weight on the centre of the PS vs on the outside legs?

Thanks!

The plate setter will easily support the weight, but..................

The XL should comfortably accommodate a huge shoulder on the grate. You will need the convective circulation to properly cook the butt. You will not get this resting the butt on the plate setter - the plate setter gets VERY hot even on low and slows and will burn whatever is in contact with it.

You can cut the butt in half and cook on the grate if you need the space.

as mentioned before I will NOT put the butt on the PS. Will make sure there is proper circulation. thanks

vern1 · May 2017

thetrim said:

I've done my mad max turkeys on the large on top of the platesetter with four crushed beer cans creating an air gap. Haven't done something similar in the XL yet. I do have a similar issue with an older style XL with the shallow dome and the new longer legged PS

Now that's a good idea. And I have lots of beer cans to make the support!

Thanks!

Since they changed the PS then they should offer us guys with the old model the new bigger dome...

How much weight can a platesetter support?

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