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Chicken coop owners

Focker
Focker Posts: 8,364
edited January 2017 in EggHead Forum
Looking to add a few hens in Spring.  3 seems like a good number.

Eggs are by far, my favorite power food.
My friend has been taking good care of me at the hospital with 2$ dozens, figured I could start my own.

Thought it would be good for the boys too.

Just starting to poke around at plans for a chicken tractor in my privacy fenced in backyard.

Farm and Fleet will have the chickens, and all of the supplies in stock for maintenance.

Was looking for any tips, advice, on any coop runners out there.

My only issue thus far, would be electricity in winter.  Could run an extension cord out from the house 50 ft or more.

Thanks in advance.
Brandon
Quad Cities
"If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

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  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
    What do you need electric for, or does it get super cold in the winter where you are? We have had hens for years, ducks too for some of the time, although they are more rebellious and prone to wandering so get eaten by Mr Fox more frequently.

    Where we are it's not normally too cold but winters are dark and egg numbers go down, so at least double up on hen numbers vs. eggs required and give away any summer surplus to grateful neighbours.
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    Eoin said:
    What do you need electric for, or does it get super cold in the winter where you are? We have had hens for years, ducks too for some of the time, although they are more rebellious and prone to wandering so get eaten by Mr Fox more frequently.

    Where we are it's not normally too cold but winters are dark and egg numbers go down, so at least double up on hen numbers vs. eggs required and give away any summer surplus to grateful neighbours.
    Thanks.
    Yeah, it gets cold here.  Will need heat, and a heated water bowl.

    I'm not sure if insulating the coop is recommended?  

    May have to up the flock to 4 or 5.  Shouldn't have any issues getting rid of the eggcess.
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    No ordinance against your residential farming there, Mr Farmer? :)  Topic has been getting a bit of play around here in the news in the past couple years.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    RRP said:
    No ordinance against your residential farming there, Mr Farmer? :)  Topic has been getting a bit of play around here in the news in the past couple years.
    No sir.  More towns are opening up to it recently here as well.  Moline is new, allowing up to 6 hens.  Davenport is voting in a few days.  
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • As Eoin posted, electricity is really not needed unless it gets super cold. Even then I have read that people up north go without.  There is a lot of info on the web.   I have had chickens for years and I do not have electricity.  In the winter months, egg production does go down.  I have 7 hens and a rooster.  Intended to have 8 hens,but one was not. 
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    Tigers34 said:
    As Eoin posted, electricity is really not needed unless it gets super cold. Even then I have read that people up north go without.  There is a lot of info on the web.   I have had chickens for years and I do not have electricity.  In the winter months, egg production does go down.  I have 7 hens and a rooster.  Intended to have 8 hens,but one was not. 
    Thanks, appreciate the input.
    Where are you located?

    They're fine if the water supply freezes?
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • dsleight
    dsleight Posts: 101
    Your egg recovery will depend on the type of hens you choose.  First eggs come around 6 months and you can average 1 egg per hen every other day (again using layers and not decorative birds).  They lay like crazy for 10-12 months and start dropping off after that, at least that has been my experience.  I have had one hen for 5 years, she doesn't produce anything anymore.  I would have put her on the Green Egg, but my wife thinks they are pets.....

    I started with a tractor coop I found plans for online, but they are more of a novelty than actually being useful.  I have ended up just putting the six hens in a 10' x 20' dog kennel.  They have plenty of room and they are safe (a lot of predators where I live).

    I believe the tractor coops way overstate how many hens can fit in them.  The more crowded the flock, the more issues you will have with fighting and disease.

  • Focker said:
    Tigers34 said:
    As Eoin posted, electricity is really not needed unless it gets super cold. Even then I have read that people up north go without.  There is a lot of info on the web.   I have had chickens for years and I do not have electricity.  In the winter months, egg production does go down.  I have 7 hens and a rooster.  Intended to have 8 hens,but one was not. 
    Thanks, appreciate the input.
    Where are you located?

    They're fine if the water supply freezes?
    I live in Alabama.  I keep a metal chicken waterer in the coup that I empty and refill everyday.  When it freezes, I just use a 1/2 gallon plastic ice cream bucket with fresh water.  It probably gets cold enough to freeze up 10-12 times a year.  (this weekend for instance, it is real cold!) Check out backyardchickens.com

  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
    Focker said:
    Eoin said:
    What do you need electric for, or does it get super cold in the winter where you are? We have had hens for years, ducks too for some of the time, although they are more rebellious and prone to wandering so get eaten by Mr Fox more frequently.

    Where we are it's not normally too cold but winters are dark and egg numbers go down, so at least double up on hen numbers vs. eggs required and give away any summer surplus to grateful neighbours.
    Thanks.
    Yeah, it gets cold here.  Will need heat, and a heated water bowl.

    I'm not sure if insulating the coop is recommended?  

    May have to up the flock to 4 or 5.  Shouldn't have any issues getting rid of the eggcess.
    You have to be careful with the house design as multiple layers with insulation gives a place for mites to hide when you treat for them. If the water freezes we just go up with hot water and put that in, but it's rarely cold enough here to refreeze during the day, which may be a problem for you. Our hens can go in and out as they please and they usually choose to roost in a tree and not in the house even if it's cold. They are not so keen on rain!

    This lot of hens are ex-free range farm hens, they do 18 months at the farm then off for slaughter. A few get a free pass out. Still lay well, even in winter.
  • Spring Chicken
    Spring Chicken Posts: 10,255
    edited January 2017
    We built our version of a Chicken Coop here at the Chicken Ranch over ten years ago and it has served us well.  But ours had to be designed and operated according to some strict homeowner association rules.  Even the Egg sizes had to be considered.  

    It's turned out to be a beautiful story though, and has even been mentioned on CNN.

    Here's what ours looks like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWXdGDyfTA8

    A well designed and equipped Chicken Coop can give you many years of pleasure and outright fun, not to mention some of the best food anywhere.

    Good luck with it.

    Spring "Coop Designer And Builder And Chef Bottle Washer" Chicken
    Spring Texas USA


  • Toxarch
    Toxarch Posts: 1,900
    I was so hoping you were going to say you lived in La Grange, TX when you said you had people that visited The Chicken Ranch.
    Aledo, Texas
    Large BGE
    KJ Jr.

    Exodus 12:9 KJV
    Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.

  • How cold does it get? I didn't see that in the body. I'm in MS and it can get 20 or teens but very rarely. We just used heat lamp bulbs on the colder nights. They're usually great if they are just out of the elements. They won't lay when it gets cold sometimes. There's plenty of heated water bowls and agitating water bowls out there. Good luck! We loved when we had laying hens. 


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    XLBGE 
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,403
    edited January 2017
    In town I had a tractor with 6 chickens.  When I moved we were up to 54.  I will post pics of the setup.

    I am in Michigan.  If you get them water twice or three times a day in winter, they are fine.  Keep the water over their heads or you will have a mess every day.  The tractor we had was heavy and a pain to move.  It had very small tires. Any dip or bump in the yard would stop you from moving.  Pics to follow. Happy to help with any questions. 


    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,403

    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • EGGjlmh
    EGGjlmh Posts: 823
    I have a small coop with 3 hens, Pain in the ### to take care of in the cold winters, not much fun

    1MBGE 2006, 1LBGE 2010, 1 Mini Max, Fathers Day 2015

  • Toxarch said:
    I was so hoping you were going to say you lived in La Grange, TX when you said you had people that visited The Chicken Ranch.
    Ha...  We're not far from La Grange, at least in miles, but in 'services rendered', we're light years away.  We're just trying to keep the legendary Chicken Ranch story alive the only way we know how, and have a little fun with it in the process.  

    Even the CNN version was edited from what I sent them, although they did leave enough for someone familiar with the Original Chicken Ranch story so they would understand. Here's the link:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/07/09/eggheads.irpt/index.html?iref=24hours

    The CNN article is pretty outdated now.  We have added considerably to the Coop's decor, and now have six 'Full-Time Girls' to handle pretty much all the 'business' we can lay on 'em.  Lily Large, circa 1999, is semi-retired and opted to move out of the Coop to continue her life here as a 'Free Range Girl."  She apparently loves it because she never leaves the Ranch, and only on special occasions gets called upon to ply her magic on a Prime Customer.

    Of course, if anyone saw the Broadway show or the movie with Dolly Parton and Burt Reynolds, among some other fine actors, appropriately titled, "The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas," they would know that our little Chicken Ranch does not raise chickens, nor does it provide similar services to those of the original Chicken Ranch.  Even so, to keep the legend alive, we do play with the words from time to time.  All in fun, of course.

    Just another of the many stories that make Texas, Texas.  There could never be another like it.

    Spring "Life Is Easier When You Have Fun Living It" Chicken
    Spring Texas USA


  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    edited January 2017
    Toxarch said:
    I was so hoping you were going to say you lived in La Grange, TX when you said you had people that visited The Chicken Ranch.
    As and AG-X... how do I know what you're talking about?
    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM


  • Sea2Ski
    Sea2Ski Posts: 4,131
    Lots of true and accurate information has been provided above. As others have said, they are cold hardy.  Well, most of them.  The "fluffy" breeds are good down to 10-15 below, and others can take it colder than that. Other non-fluffy breeds not as well.  
    Water in the winter is the most difficult aspect for me; but as others have said, there are many options for you to accommodate the need.

    Figure on a minimum of 4ft square per coop space per bird.  That is minimum.  For run space, double that if you want to almost** eliminate the low bird from being picked on. There is always a pecking order. They are a flock animal so a minimum of 4 birds is commonly recommended. 

    Predator protection is critical. Everything likes chicken. Chicken wire is good at keeping chickens in but bad at keeping predators out. It is plain insufficient. Think protection from raccoons, possums, hawks, mink, weasel,  and possibly the neighbors dogs and snakes. 1/2" hardware mesh is the standard recommendation.

    Best resource to go to is backyardchickens.com. 
    Want to start fights?  Bring up perch shape: 2x4 or round and if round- diameters, free range, electric fences or the  "coup d'état" - fermented vs unfermented feed.  Those topics make discussions of brand of lump or ways to light the egg look like kid talk. 

    I have had birds for about 15 years, and would be happy to speak with you about them and my experiences. Just let me know!  
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    Burning lump in Downingtown, PA or diesel in Cape May, NJ.
    ....just look for the smoke!
    Large and MiniMax
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    Caliking said:   Meat in bung is my favorite. 
  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
    edited January 2017

    Been up to clean out the houses today, we try to keep the hay relatively fresh and burn it when removed to kill any pests lurking in there. One of the girls getting nosey.


  • Eoin
    Eoin Posts: 4,304
    edited January 2017

    This is all of them having an afternoon snack of some leftover biscuits.  We do feed them scraps, but not too many as excess food lying around attracts rats, plus our scraps go to compost anyway so not wasted.  We don't have a coop as such, just houses in a fenced off part of the garden.  They have 100' x 30' to themselves.  I'm happy to let them roam, but they do scratch around in the beds and that annoys Anne.  We do lose them to the fox from time to time, but mostly they roost at night in a Blackthorn tree and the foxes don't like how spiky it is.  Rats are always an issue where you have food and places to hide away, so be prepared to get pest control in when you start seeing the evidence of rat activity.  I shoot them, but you will never get them all that way, hence the bait box by one of the houses. The cockerel helps keep the ladies in order as well, reduces pecking / bullying, which hens are prone to do. Also see what a mess they make of the area in the winter - it grows back in spring but the constant pecking takes its toll on the vegetation.

  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,403


    They love table scraps. 
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,403

    There is a bad pic of our tractor coop.
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited January 2017
    Sorry for the delay, but thanks guys so much for the help.  And I love the flock pics!

    Been on backyardchickens.com
    Getting a couple of books from my friend to read.
    And have settled on these plans from poorfish on fleabay. Tractor will hold 5 hens, Australorps and RI Reds, butchering them when no longer productive.  Seems like a moveable size, sturdy.  What I envisioned, not being available to free range them during the day, and big enough for me with 5 hens.  Would look nice with galvanized roofing, and John Deere green trimmed with yellow.  Like the old table and Large I bought from a retired Deere employee in the classifieds that had the yellow handled locking band. =)



    Nests are easy to access.  Appears to have good ventilation.  Will swap 1/2" hardware cloth, and use treated lumber and plywood.  What do you guys think?




    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • RedSkip
    RedSkip Posts: 1,400
    Why is it called a tractor?
    Large BGE - McDonald, PA
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    RedSkip said:
    Why is it called a tractor?
    Great question.
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
    RedSkip said:
    Why is it called a tractor?
    Just a coop on wheels. You can move it so the hens have fresh foraging areas while protecting them from predators.
  • Sea2Ski
    Sea2Ski Posts: 4,131
    Seems a bit small for 5 hens. If they are out in the run area that may be okay, but I still think a bit small for 5 birds.  Make that run as big as you can and still move it. 
    I would plan on a lightweight plastic roof over the run area. This way they can use the run even in the rain and or snow (I am on a phone do can not see where you live), or have shade on hot sunny days. That roof does not have to be permanent, just fastened not to blow off.

    Can't tell how big that door is in that last picture. Cleaning the inside might prove difficult unless you get a little one to do it. Regardless, lose the 2x6? Horizontal board on edge at the threshold, this way you can sweep/rake out the coop right onto a small tarp for easy collection. Get a scrap piece of linoleum and form fit it letting it wrap up 2" for the floor of the coop. Do not glue it. This way 2x a year you can pull it out and power wash it. Finally, make sure that you put a door from the coop to the run, and close that nightly. Otherwise a predator  can dig under that 2x4 in a few mins and get a good meal.
    --------------------------------------------------
    Burning lump in Downingtown, PA or diesel in Cape May, NJ.
    ....just look for the smoke!
    Large and MiniMax
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    Caliking said:   Meat in bung is my favorite. 
  • dsleight
    dsleight Posts: 101
    Sea2Ski said:
    Seems a bit small for 5 hens. If they are out in the run area that may be okay, but I still think a bit small for 5 birds.  
    I agree with this statement, that is not enough room for 5 birds.
  • gmac
    gmac Posts: 1,814
    Its weird how some pictures show fine while others are a white square box. But that little white box is probably too small for 5 hens. 
    Anyone else suffering from white box syndrome?
    Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large.