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Dry aging steaks at home

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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    45 is the bomb. sweet spot for home aging without humidity controls (to go longer without drying too much)

    trivia question.

    why 45 days?

    it's everywhere now.  never was.  21 and 28 days were the maximums that were available.

    hint: greeneggers+eggheadforum+lurkers  (plus a little spill over on the bag forum, i'm sure)


    Weasels have 45 day gestation periods, and 28 days later was just too scary.

    That's why.  (drops mike.  Walks off stage, trips, opens oneself to ridicule.)
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Dyal_SC said:
    bgebrent said:
    Dyal_SC said:
    I've used the umai bags before and the steaks tasted great.  Here is an interesting article though about whether or not using those is truly "dry aging" since the bags do not let oxygen in. They do however release moisture, which is a benefit over the traditional wet aging process.

    http://blog.golbsalt.com/2012/09/07/umai-dry-bag-is-it-really-dry-aging/

    It it would be interesting to do a blind taste test on a umai "dry aged" steak vs a traditional dry aged steak that utilized oxygen. 
    I believe @DoubleEgger and gang did this a few months ago. Maybe one of them can chime in on the results. I know they both looked great. Even the 100 day. 
    We went 100 days, one prime boneless ribeye roast in the bag and one naked and skeered.  While they differed in appearance (color) and size (naked roast was smaller and drier), once cooked they tasted essentially the same.  100 days is a different animal.  We plan to repeat the experiment with 45 day period.
    Good information to know!  Don't know how I missed the original post. If ya plan on a 45 day experiment, lemme know. :D
    We will Craig!  Needed more tasters for that boat load of beef.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • I'm gonna jump into the conversation and ask how my dry aging looks...first time ever and I'm at 28 days...it smells like a sweet cheese...does it look ok? Kept temp between 34-38 degrees in a separate fridge I bought...I originally put salt down but after @JustineCaseyFeldown told me to take it out I did and haven't noticed any difference...thanks for looking 


  • Sea2Ski
    Sea2Ski Posts: 4,131
    @DesertSnow Looks god to me for being at 28 days.   How long you going? Is it for x-mas?
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  • @Sea2Ski ; I don't have a special occasion I'm saving it for...all my buddies are scared to try it but I know it's gonna be unreal...I'm going to do what @JustineCaseyFeldown
    suggested and do 45 days...I think I'm gonna do one steak sous vide then sear and another one just strait on the egg
  • blind99
    blind99 Posts: 4,974
    @DesertSnow my 6 year old saw your pic and said "that looks soooo good!"
    Chicago, IL - Large and Small BGE - Weber Gasser and Kettle
  • I'm gonna jump into the conversation and ask how my dry aging looks...first time ever and I'm at 28 days...it smells like a sweet cheese...does it look ok? Kept temp between 34-38 degrees in a separate fridge I bought...I originally put salt down but after @JustineCaseyFeldown told me to take it out I did and haven't noticed any difference...thanks for looking 


    Sweet cheese is EXACTLY the correct description. I have never really come up with the right term myself. 

    Lot of the exact same thing happening. Controlled rancidity (not always a bad thing!) among them. 

    Looks great to me

    great sadness here as our spare fridge is dying. Freezer is fine but the fridge part is 67. Hahaha

    so. No ribroast for Christmas. 

    Wellington though. So. Rebound

    but yeah. You look good. Just lop off the ends. No other trimming. 
  • Seriously? No one knows why rhe entire frigging internet is at 45 days for home aging?  Not 42? (21, 28, ... multiples of 7)


  • Seriously? No one knows why rhe entire frigging internet is at 45 days for home aging?  Not 42? (21, 28, ... multiples of 7)


    (7 days of creation(counting rest) + 2 animals/species) * (the trinity + said animals) = greatness?
  • 45 days started here (greeneggers.com actually), based arbitrarily on the 45 days that the "Meat House" markets used for aging their beef. They started on the east coast

    they opened a shop in Salem NH where some idiot named stike and a fisherman named fishlessman used to buy their stuff and then post 3-megapixel pics (sorry, queen bee) of their cooks. 

    one of them decided that any idiot can dry age. Especially after asking the guy behind the counter what their proces was and finding out it was nothing more than leaving the thing unwrapped 45 days. 

    A few of us started aging. RRP was the only other guy besides me who really seemed to fall for it. But a lot of people were doing it and trying it. He and I atuck with it

    It spilled into some other forums. Links copied. Then the umai product and their forum. Brethren too

    45 days became the standard for home aging

    until then, and i mean for maybe as long as i have ever been able to find evidence, it was always 21 or 28 days. Always. What i mean is, when a point was made by the seller about how many days it was aged (menu at morton's, savenor's grocery), it was 21 or 28.

    Don't have mich evidence for 1890s -1950s.  I am guessing great grandma just bought a steak.  She never asked how long it was dry aged because that's how all meat was handled. 

    But when it became a thing, maybe 60s-70s, 21-28 days was de rigeur. 

    It was the early chatter at greeneggers.com that spilled to the brethren, umai, and other forums. 

    And all because some small (since closed) shop in NH picked 45 days. And believe it or not, by the time they closed, enough people had jumped on the bandwagon (but without knowing how to play an instrument) that they started trimming to placate them. 

    Before then no one ever trimmed. You don't call yourself a breadmaker and then trim the crust off your bread
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    I'm gonna drop this link here as a lesson to all that want to create a web site in what not to do.  Also, it has something to do with dry aging meat.

    http://www.askthemeatman.com/dry_aging_beef_info.htm

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,577
    45 days started here (greeneggers.com actually), based arbitrarily on the 45 days that the "Meat House" markets used for aging their beef. They started on the east coast

    they opened a shop in Salem NH where some idiot named stike and a fisherman named fishlessman used to buy their stuff and then post 3-megapixel pics (sorry, queen bee) of their cooks. 

    one of them decided that any idiot can dry age. Especially after asking the guy behind the counter what their proces was and finding out it was nothing more than leaving the thing unwrapped 45 days. 

    A few of us started aging. RRP was the only other guy besides me who really seemed to fall for it. But a lot of people were doing it and trying it. He and I atuck with it

    It spilled into some other forums. Links copied. Then the umai product and their forum. Brethren too

    45 days became the standard for home aging

    until then, and i mean for maybe as long as i have ever been able to find evidence, it was always 21 or 28 days. Always. What i mean is, when a point was made by the seller about how many days it was aged (menu at morton's, savenor's grocery), it was 21 or 28.

    Don't have mich evidence for 1890s -1950s.  I am guessing great grandma just bought a steak.  She never asked how long it was dry aged because that's how all meat was handled. 

    But when it became a thing, maybe 60s-70s, 21-28 days was de rigeur. 

    It was the early chatter at greeneggers.com that spilled to the brethren, umai, and other forums. 

    And all because some small (since closed) shop in NH picked 45 days. And believe it or not, by the time they closed, enough people had jumped on the bandwagon (but without knowing how to play an instrument) that they started trimming to placate them. 

    Before then no one ever trimmed. You don't call yourself a breadmaker and then trim the crust off your bread
    heres one of those rotten steaks =) funny how the rotten cake didnt catch on

    100_1063jpg

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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    I'm gonna drop this link here as a lesson to all that want to create a web site in what not to do.  Also, it has something to do with dry aging meat.

    http://www.askthemeatman.com/dry_aging_beef_info.htm

    Terribly designed site.  And they advocate the necessity of trimming dry aged beef.  Interesting how it all boils down to $ as an impetus for wet aging vs. dry.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Zippylip
    Zippylip Posts: 4,768
    JustineCaseyFeldown said:
    i am the simplest type of idiot.  i don't complicate things unnecessarily (salt in a pan under the meat? someone, seriously, please explain...).  open the fridge, toss in the meat, shut the door. move on.
    yea but wouldn't the bag be safer?
    happy in the hut
    West Chester Pennsylvania
  • Zippylip said:
    JustineCaseyFeldown said:
    i am the simplest type of idiot.  i don't complicate things unnecessarily (salt in a pan under the meat? someone, seriously, please explain...).  open the fridge, toss in the meat, shut the door. move on.
    yea but wouldn't the bag be safer?

    I think it would. Prevents all kinds of MTD's. (Meat transmitted diseases)

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Maybe it would be more successful if they re-branded it as the "Meat Condom".
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,577
    body bag would be cool
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,577
    nola, did you do anything with that dryaged pork roast, the site says you cant do  that =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    nola, did you do anything with that dryaged pork roast, the site says you cant do  that =)
    I saw that.  To me that means "do it".

    It was the better part of a year and it was completely dehydrated.  So I put it in a bag of brine and it's currently buried in the back of my shop fridge.
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